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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 16 2016 17:35 GMT
#24761
I mean, if you play Zarya or Thornbjorn (I don't know if Junkrat/Roadhog mention it themselves? I don't recall it) they're pretty clear in their distrust and dislike of the robots, and they certainly don't view them as equals. So some characters who could have qualms about killing people won't have so much about destroying robots.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 16 2016 17:36 GMT
#24762
On May 17 2016 02:28 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 02:14 ketchup wrote:
On May 17 2016 01:56 Cixah wrote:


Hanzo short. Its really good. Like really really good.


There's something weird about this. The only thing that hanzo kills is a robot, while he lets the humans live. He only uses the arrow directly on the robot while he disables the human guards. I thought robots were considered sentient in the lore? Pretty weird

The map being in the video is pretty amazing though.


They are sentient. My understanding this that there was a war the Omnics (the robot peoples) rose up after poor conditions and attempted to overthrow the humans. This caused the Overwatch to be made originally 30 years or so prior. The "bad" people in overwatch often refer to them as robots and junk, and obviously hanzo still has his sense of Human Life First, even if the common norm now is that Omnics and Humans lives together.

It might be reading too much into it, especially with how little lore is out there. I have a link saved at home to a small wiki with it. I'll post it here when I get back to the house.

Is Hanzo Japanese? Can see where this is going if so :>
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-16 17:44:58
May 16 2016 17:42 GMT
#24763
More muzak
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
May 16 2016 18:05 GMT
#24764
On May 17 2016 02:36 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 02:28 Cixah wrote:
On May 17 2016 02:14 ketchup wrote:
On May 17 2016 01:56 Cixah wrote:
https://youtu.be/5w2-3Dn9PGg

Hanzo short. Its really good. Like really really good.


There's something weird about this. The only thing that hanzo kills is a robot, while he lets the humans live. He only uses the arrow directly on the robot while he disables the human guards. I thought robots were considered sentient in the lore? Pretty weird

The map being in the video is pretty amazing though.


They are sentient. My understanding this that there was a war the Omnics (the robot peoples) rose up after poor conditions and attempted to overthrow the humans. This caused the Overwatch to be made originally 30 years or so prior. The "bad" people in overwatch often refer to them as robots and junk, and obviously hanzo still has his sense of Human Life First, even if the common norm now is that Omnics and Humans lives together.

It might be reading too much into it, especially with how little lore is out there. I have a link saved at home to a small wiki with it. I'll post it here when I get back to the house.

Is Hanzo Japanese? Can see where this is going if so :>

Just what are you implying here Numy.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-16 18:23:59
May 16 2016 18:16 GMT
#24765
Genjis story:

>Is the son in a Japanese mafia faction, but hes a weeb and want to find his ninja way.
>Naruto is retarded so Hanzo (his brother) kills him
>Genji becomes robocop
>Stops being robocop for Overwatch
>converts to buddhism
>in the end accepts that he never needs viagra again (cuz he his always hard) the end.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 16 2016 18:20 GMT
#24766
Music Monday, randomly stuck in my head, no idea why

Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-16 18:36:16
May 16 2016 18:35 GMT
#24767
On May 17 2016 03:05 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 02:36 Numy wrote:
On May 17 2016 02:28 Cixah wrote:
On May 17 2016 02:14 ketchup wrote:
On May 17 2016 01:56 Cixah wrote:
https://youtu.be/5w2-3Dn9PGg

Hanzo short. Its really good. Like really really good.


There's something weird about this. The only thing that hanzo kills is a robot, while he lets the humans live. He only uses the arrow directly on the robot while he disables the human guards. I thought robots were considered sentient in the lore? Pretty weird

The map being in the video is pretty amazing though.


They are sentient. My understanding this that there was a war the Omnics (the robot peoples) rose up after poor conditions and attempted to overthrow the humans. This caused the Overwatch to be made originally 30 years or so prior. The "bad" people in overwatch often refer to them as robots and junk, and obviously hanzo still has his sense of Human Life First, even if the common norm now is that Omnics and Humans lives together.

It might be reading too much into it, especially with how little lore is out there. I have a link saved at home to a small wiki with it. I'll post it here when I get back to the house.

Is Hanzo Japanese? Can see where this is going if so :>

Just what are you implying here Numy.

Oh I don't know. A older generation Japanese male that prides himself on ideas like honor that could be described as having Imperial bearing ,views a population as sub-human to justify the acts carried out on said population? Just feels familiar.

It's like if they had a character that was a Dutch descendant on the tip of Africa that is part of a group that subjects the local population to years of brutality and injustice in order to retain power. Something about that just scratches at the back of the head and I can't figure out why.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
May 16 2016 18:41 GMT
#24768
On May 17 2016 03:35 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 03:05 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On May 17 2016 02:36 Numy wrote:
On May 17 2016 02:28 Cixah wrote:
On May 17 2016 02:14 ketchup wrote:
On May 17 2016 01:56 Cixah wrote:
https://youtu.be/5w2-3Dn9PGg

Hanzo short. Its really good. Like really really good.


There's something weird about this. The only thing that hanzo kills is a robot, while he lets the humans live. He only uses the arrow directly on the robot while he disables the human guards. I thought robots were considered sentient in the lore? Pretty weird

The map being in the video is pretty amazing though.


They are sentient. My understanding this that there was a war the Omnics (the robot peoples) rose up after poor conditions and attempted to overthrow the humans. This caused the Overwatch to be made originally 30 years or so prior. The "bad" people in overwatch often refer to them as robots and junk, and obviously hanzo still has his sense of Human Life First, even if the common norm now is that Omnics and Humans lives together.

It might be reading too much into it, especially with how little lore is out there. I have a link saved at home to a small wiki with it. I'll post it here when I get back to the house.

Is Hanzo Japanese? Can see where this is going if so :>

Just what are you implying here Numy.

Oh I don't know. A older generation Japanese male that prides himself on ideas like honor that could be described as having Imperial bearing ,views a population as sub-human to justify the acts carried out on said population? Just feels familiar.

It's like if they had a character that was a Dutch descendant on the tip of Africa that is part of a group that subjects the local population to years of brutality and injustice in order to retain power. Something about that just scratches at the back of the head and I can't figure out why.

You're gonna have to be more direct than that. I'm being willfully obtuse here.


As soniv reminded me.

"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 16 2016 18:48 GMT
#24769
thats a classic
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 16 2016 18:54 GMT
#24770
Dammit LT I know you know I know you know. I'm not falling for this game!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 16 2016 19:16 GMT
#24771
I already posted a song but shit this is tight

It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2016 19:51 GMT
#24772
I'm super hyped with all these mtg announcements today, though still no EMN symbol (which is also super hype).
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 16 2016 19:55 GMT
#24773
I'm completely anti-hyped by the pretty much confirmation that big sets "last" 4 months while small sets only last 2. That's less time to play around with them, and whenever their draft formats are good it's going to feel extremely short. Can't help but feel bummed about that.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2016 19:59 GMT
#24774
On May 17 2016 04:55 Alaric wrote:
I'm completely anti-hyped by the pretty much confirmation that big sets "last" 4 months while small sets only last 2. That's less time to play around with them, and whenever their draft formats are good it's going to feel extremely short. Can't help but feel bummed about that.

That's not quite true if you figure the actual length of time, but even then, you can't tell me a set stays 'fresh' for that long anyway. SOI is fun and all but even I'm starting to bore of it slightly, and it's not July yet. Also I could've sworn the dates for the fall release set were already out well before this.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-16 20:06:45
May 16 2016 20:02 GMT
#24775
Honestly 4/2 is probably better than 3/3 given the relative size of each set. The larger set SHOULD have more playtime, both for limited and constructed, and it's weird for them to be the same.

I'm still not really a fan of the 4 sets per year cadence (since rotation then rotates 1/3 of the card pool every 6 months rather than 1/2 the card pool every year), but that's a separate issue.

EDIT: Also Alaric, in practice 3x large set draft formats have historically tended to draft better than the 2x small 1x large draft formats anyway. So having that exist for longer is not necessarily a bad thing.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 16 2016 20:07 GMT
#24776
sets ending right at the time you can git gud at drafting them killed draft for me, which is cool, it was expensive af anyway
A backwards poet writes inverse.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 16 2016 20:17 GMT
#24777
TBH the right way to do this is probably just to have 3 sets per year instead of 4, and just have 3 blocks every 2 years rather than 2 blocks every year. Then you have Standard rotating 1/3 of the card pool every 8 months, and the draft format can exist for 4/4 or 5/3, which still gives enough time with each set while favoring the 3x large set format slightly still.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 16 2016 20:23 GMT
#24778
would be better sure but wotc wouldn't make as much money sooo
unlucked
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-16 20:27:08
May 16 2016 20:25 GMT
#24779
I take your word on the ending since I haven't had much experience (I had more fun with OGW/OGW/BFZ but I think that's because C worked better than something like processors, there wasn't a colour trailing as far behind as BGZ's Green, and I was more experienced overall). As I said, "whenever the draft format is good"—if EMN/EMN/SOI turns out to be garbage I'm not going to mind having had one more month of 3x SOI, obviously.

I guess since I don't get to play constructed that much it helps?
I need to go more "aggressively" for people's contact info post-draft when there's new people or others more around my skill level I guess. Looks like there are only a handful of people going for competitive standard decks, the rest are somewhat casual/draft-only/EDH players so I'll prob curate my BW control deck for whenever I can play it/reuse pieces along with future releases, but I doubt it fits in the local power level, too weak for modern players, too strong for most standard-casuals.
Time to go for EDH and or build a janky briarbridge/journal combo deck and pretend I'm playing Nahiri I guess.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2016 20:47 GMT
#24780
Still can't decide if I should unload her now or if the hype will continue. Got burned already once by selling right as the set came out.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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