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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On March 24 2015 23:34 kingfr0st wrote: First Post on LiquidLegends ever. Is this the correct thread to pop a "Hi" to everybody ? One more to add to the euro crowd. Where's the welcoming committee? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On March 24 2015 23:40 WaveofShadow wrote: One more to add to the euro crowd. Where's the welcoming committee? They're working on new slurs to use. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On March 24 2015 23:34 kingfr0st wrote: First Post on LiquidLegends ever. Is this the correct thread to pop a "Hi" to everybody ? ahhh, fresh meat | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On March 24 2015 23:34 kingfr0st wrote: First Post on LiquidLegends ever. Is this the correct thread to pop a "Hi" to everybody ? Welcome! demand a grudgematch with Lord Tolkein =P | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
yeah we need more grudge matches. I think I was supposed to have one with zer0das. WHERE YOU AT?? | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On March 24 2015 23:59 ComaDose wrote: still reading through the 600 posts i missed but wanted to pop in and say that mt. tremblant was amazing. snowboarded and drank so much, the village is beautiful, and I could snowboard to within 10 feet of my challets door from the top of the mountain. The local Quebec beers they serve at the pubs are weird but poutine is still best with real cheese curds. Dedication. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
Dedication was Galt. I think I remember him saying he caught up with 3k+ | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On March 24 2015 23:59 jcarlsoniv wrote: Welcome! demand a grudgematch with Lord Tolkein =P as long as we don't have to actually play league otherwise i'd actually have to start playing league again | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
16 year old me is preparing to kick me in the balls right now. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
God dayum first world is nice. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Math is the least important part of theorycrafting, and people who don't realize that get into dumb arguments because they equate correct math with correct conclusions. Sound theorycrafting does not exist outside of sound scenarios and sound analysis. If your facts are wrong or unrealistic then your resulting numbers and any analysis there of will be garbage. Even with good numbers your analysis needs to be thorough and thoughtful to be meaningful, and bad analysis will easily ruin what was otherwise promising theorycraft. You obviously need correct math for correct theorycrafting, but it's the set up and analysis that makes theorycrafting useful. 90% of arguments between theorycrafters end up going like this: Theorycrafter A: My math shows that X is better than Y. Theorycrafter B: My math shows that Y is better than X. Argument commences between A and B regarding why each other's math was wrong. These sorts of arguments end up dancing around the truth of the conflict; those involved have different scenarios, assumptions, and analyses which lead them to different conclusions. Unfortunately each person is convinced they are right because math told them so and as a result the gap between them is never bridged. That's the tragedy of theorycraft because it, like all science, is best when done collaboratively. Nobody is perfect, nobody will draft perfect scenarios, nobody will catch every variable, nobody will get it right the first time. The point of showing off your math and your analysis isn't to flex your computational muscles or establish your authority, it's to get other people to review it and tell you what you missed and where you might have gone wrong. The best theorycrafters are those who work with other theorycrafters to find the right answer, whatever it may be. So remember that the next time you try theorycrafting. You are only as good as your ability to work with, not argue with, others. As an addendum youtube theorycraft videos are horrible; they are the epitome of everything wrong with theorycraft. You can rarely actually see all the assumptions/equations/math/analysis, you have to flip through rambling and various time stamps to get what little there is, and it's impossible to collaborate meaningfully through that medium alone. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On March 25 2015 00:21 yamato77 wrote: I've officially paid for Photoshop. I feel like such a sellout. 16 year old me is preparing to kick me in the balls right now. Did you get the one where you have to pay monthly? | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On March 25 2015 00:36 Seuss wrote: Theorycraft Rant: + Show Spoiler + Math is the least important part of theorycrafting, and people who don't realize that get into dumb arguments because they equate correct math with correct conclusions. Sound theorycrafting does not exist outside of sound scenarios and sound analysis. If your facts are wrong or unrealistic then your resulting numbers and any analysis there of will be garbage. Even with good numbers your analysis needs to be thorough and thoughtful to be meaningful, and bad analysis will easily ruin what was otherwise promising theorycraft. You obviously need correct math for correct theorycrafting, but it's the set up and analysis that makes theorycrafting useful. 90% of arguments between theorycrafters end up going like this: Theorycrafter A: My math shows that X is better than Y. Theorycrafter B: My math shows that Y is better than X. Argument commences between A and B regarding why each other's math was wrong. These sorts of arguments end up dancing around the truth of the conflict; those involved have different scenarios, assumptions, and analyses which lead them to different conclusions. Unfortunately each person is convinced they are right because math told them so and as a result the gap between them is never bridged. That's the tragedy of theorycraft because it, like all science, is best when done collaboratively. Nobody is perfect, nobody will draft perfect scenarios, nobody will catch every variable, nobody will get it right the first time. The point of showing off your math and your analysis isn't to flex your computational muscles or establish your authority, it's to get other people to review it and tell you what you missed and where you might have gone wrong. The best theorycrafters are those who work with other theorycrafters to find the right answer, whatever it may be. So remember that the next time you try theorycrafting. You are only as good as your ability to work with, not argue with, others. As an addendum youtube theorycraft videos are horrible; they are the epitome of everything wrong with theorycraft. You can rarely actually see all the assumptions/equations/math/analysis, you have to flip through rambling and various time stamps to get what little there is, and it's impossible to collaborate meaningfully through that medium alone. What are you referencing since you brought it up? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
That bane is everywhere, whenever you see some theorycraft. Even more certain when there are two people claiming to do theorycrafting interacting with each other. It literally spreads in a cancer-like fashion when you put two of them in contact. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On March 25 2015 00:59 Eppa! wrote: What are you referencing since you brought it up? I'm guessing the Luden/Rabadon posts. | ||
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