EPTOn January 27 2018 09:16 Fango wrote:
Is there any chance that Neeb doesn't win this? Don't think so
Is there any chance that Neeb doesn't win this? Don't think so
Getting knocked out by Elazer is a definite possiblity
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Myrddrael
United Kingdom291 Posts
Getting knocked out by Elazer is a definite possiblity | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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pvsnp
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On January 27 2018 09:38 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches? Masa vs DNS Game 3 was really good. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On January 27 2018 09:29 Myrddrael wrote: Getting knocked out by Elazer is a definite possiblity Elazer only makes upsets in ZvZ | ||
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bulya
Israel386 Posts
Elazer's ZvP is strong as well. Check his matches vs Showtime (they played quite a lot). For example he beat him in WESG EU not that long ago in a BO5 series that was quite one sided (and there was quite a lot of money on the line). Thats just an example, he beat Stats on the NA server in a qualifying match to IEM Katowica. Stats played from KR in the morning while Elazer played form Poland in the middle of the night. Elazer's ZvP is quite strong, especially against macro players like ShowTime, Neeb, Stats, etc. Elazer is quite a timing oriented player, but he knows his timings quite well, and knows how to adapt when he sees something, as well as when should he hit as its going to be a vulnerable time for his opponent. This is the main difference between Elazer and Serral, who both have good ZvZ and ZvP, but the later prefers the more macro oriented games while Elazer is more of a timing player (which is why he had a tough time vs herO in the WCS finals). | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On January 27 2018 10:56 bulya wrote: Elazer's ZvP is strong as well. Check his matches vs Showtime (they played quite a lot). For example he beat him in WESG EU not that long ago in a BO5 series that was quite one sided (and there was quite a lot of money on the line). Thats just an example, he beat Stats on the NA server in a qualifying match to IEM Katowica. Stats played from KR in the morning while Elazer played form Poland in the middle of the night. Elazer's ZvP is quite strong, especially against macro players like ShowTime, Neeb, Stats, etc. Elazer is quite a timing oriented player, but he knows his timings quite well, and knows how to adapt when he sees something, as well as when should he hit as its going to be a vulnerable time for his opponent. This is the main difference between Elazer and Serral, who both have good ZvZ and ZvP, but the later prefers the more macro oriented games while Elazer is more of a timing player (which is why he had a tough time vs herO in the WCS finals). Elazer vs Stats? You mean the Bo5 that literally consisted of five allins in a row? Yeah, I wouldn't read into that too much. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On January 27 2018 11:00 pvsnp wrote: Elazer vs Stats? You mean the Bo5 that literally consisted of five allins in a row? Yeah, I wouldn't read into that too much. Well Elazer generally plays like that in ZvP so it's not completely irrelevant. I think Elazer is really dangerous for Neeb. Neeb has shown he's not invincible in the matchup at all at this tournament, losing to Lambo and losing 2 maps to Zanster. He still seems to have weaknesses to sharp timings and cheesy strats in PvZ and well, Elazer is pretty good at that. On the other hand, Elazer is so greedy when he rushes up to hydras and Neeb almost always goes for heavy adept pressure atm so I can imagine at least one game where Neeb will just kill him with adepts. If that matchup happens, I think it's pretty close as to who will win. And whoever wins that match would be a big favourite to win the whole thing. | ||
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Ej_
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