EPTOn September 21 2017 22:58 Fango wrote:
If by win you mean get to the ro8 then absolutely
If by win you mean get to the ro8 then absolutely
I'm hoping for at least 1 in the ro4
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
I'm hoping for at least 1 in the ro4 | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
As of right now the only koreans they could trash are herO and gumiho, so I can't imagine more than 2 foreigners in the ro8. We'd need Neeb vs Serral in the ro8 to have one of them make ro4 Winning the whole event? Very little chance. One of Inno/Stats/Dark/TY/sOs will win. I can't see any other possibility | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On September 21 2017 23:07 Fango wrote: As of right now the only koreans they could trash are herO and gumiho, so I can't imagine more than 2 foreigners in the ro8. We'd need Neeb vs Serral in the ro8 to have one of them make ro4 Winning the whole event? Very little chance. One of Inno/Stats/Dark/TY/sOs will win. I can't see any other possibility Neebs already beaten sos recently, he nearly beat TY. After another month of korea practice i think they have a chance to do very well. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On September 21 2017 23:18 Zaros wrote: Neebs already beaten sos recently, he nearly beat TY. After another month of korea practice i think they have a chance to do very well. sOs and TY have a habit of peaking during big $$$ events (think Neeb vs TY at WeSG lol). Neither of them showed their best form at GSLvsTW, for something like blizzcon I'd expect them to be in good shape (and no i'm not just saying that because Neeb did well against them. I don't care if a player is from korea or not. I just know that TY and sOs are better than the results they showed there) Especially sOs who doesn't seem to take any event seriously if it's not blizzcon or GSL | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1208 Posts
On September 21 2017 23:44 Fango wrote: sOs and TY have a habit of peaking during big $$$ events (think Neeb vs TY at WeSG lol). Neither of them showed their best form at GSLvsTW, for something like blizzcon I'd expect them to be in good shape Especially sOs who doesn't seem to take any event seriously if it's not blizzcon or GSL I mean if we're qualifying how good people are, then it should also be noted that Terran was strong vs Protoss in early 2017, and Neeb was not playing well at that time either. So then neither should be taken as good examples of their true form. EDIT: However, yes, sOs has been known to do poorly throughout the year and somehow win at Blizzcon. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On September 21 2017 23:47 FrkFrJss wrote: I mean if we're qualifying how good people are, then it should also be noted that Terran was strong vs Protoss in early 2017, and Neeb was not playing well at that time either. So then neither should be taken as good examples of their true form. Marine tank pushes were OP sure. But it's not like TY was winning every game with them. He was just as dominent in TvT/Z as well. Was Neeb really playing worse? Or was it just that he had to play in tournaments with koreans before Circuit started. He was still crushing the other foreigners at WeSG iirc | ||
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pvsnp
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ZigguratOfUr
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Corvuuss
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Fatam
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On September 22 2017 04:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote: So many ZvZs is rather unfortunate since ZvZ is probably the worst match-up when it comes to testing maps (okay PvP might be worse I guess). I think PvP is slightly better than ZvZ. But it depends who is playing the series for sure. When it's the cancerous 5 min ZvZ games then I definitely lean towards PvP. But some ZvZs are awesome so you never know. I guess it was bound to happen when ro8 was 5 Z, 2 T, and 1 P | ||
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Ej_
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On September 22 2017 07:45 Ej_ wrote: ZvZ is hugely map dependant. At every stage of the game. I don't really agree. Sure from a player perspective distances between Nat and third, and how big of a roach concave you can obtain at so or so locations matters a lot, but from a mapmaking perspective ZvZ doesn't impose too many restrictions on a map beyond basic stuff like overlords positions. So you don't learn as much from watching ZvZ as other matchup. imo it goes PvZ > TvZ >> PvT > TvT >>> ZvZ > PvP when it comes to how much you learn from testing a map. This ordering does change a bit over time ofc. For example I thought TvZ more important than PvZ before 3.8 | ||
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WardiTV
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SidianTheBard
United States2475 Posts
 I wish Gumiho vs Scarlett wasn't a walkover because Boardwalk would have been played I bet. Without that, it wasn't played at all in the Quarters or Semis (cry) it did get the 3rd place match though which is nice! | ||
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seemsgood
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Azhrak
Finland1198 Posts
On September 22 2017 17:04 seemsgood wrote: I don't think all players from both regions played with serious attitude tbh.You cannot just invite them and expect they will instantly figure out how to play those new maps. I think the money involved made most of the players be serious. However, there was not much time to study the maps and test them in different match-ups before the tournament began, so players might not have used optimal strategies, and mainly played as usual. But sure, it's not as serious as the WCS Global Playoffs practice most of these players are putting in currently. | ||
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