• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:35
CEST 06:35
KST 13:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy2GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding3Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST [BSL22] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CEST 🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1759 users

[WCS] Dreamhack Jönköping 2017 - Day 1 - Page 30

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 Next All
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
June 17 2017 22:35 GMT
#581
On June 18 2017 07:33 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:16 Charoisaur wrote:
MajOr gets overhyped just because he's in korea. he isn't on the level of other top foreigners.

he will win tho

Ayyyyy Champion MajOr confirmed.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
June 17 2017 22:36 GMT
#582
On June 18 2017 07:33 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:16 Charoisaur wrote:
MajOr gets overhyped just because he's in korea. he isn't on the level of other top foreigners.

he will win tho

not you?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
June 17 2017 22:37 GMT
#583
Would appear like a Serral/Elazer vs Major final.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 17 2017 22:40 GMT
#584
On June 18 2017 07:36 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:33 Scarlett` wrote:
On June 18 2017 07:16 Charoisaur wrote:
MajOr gets overhyped just because he's in korea. he isn't on the level of other top foreigners.

he will win tho

not you?

she got the polish bonjwa Ro4 Blizzcon in the next round so it doesnt look good
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
temporary1
Profile Joined February 2015
69 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-17 22:48:43
June 17 2017 22:42 GMT
#585
Looks like ZvT/TvZ/ZvZ final, after so many of top players gone. Gratz to Neeb and Drogo though, going that far with protoss is formidable.

Edit: Like Charoisaur pointed out, no TvT.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
June 17 2017 22:43 GMT
#586
On June 18 2017 07:42 temporary1 wrote:
Looks like ZvT/TvZ/TvT/ZvZ final, after so many of top players gone. Gratz to Neeb and Drogo though, going that far with p
protoss is formidable.

a tvt final isn't very likely..
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
June 17 2017 22:46 GMT
#587
I'm rooting for:
P: Drogo
Z: Stephano
T: MajOr, WinDy, Terran, Princess, Britney, Kitty, Memory, CuteAngel, NoNge, SpeCIal, shofu, Light, ilovealtaria, Mrjamvad, basedlordctc
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
June 17 2017 22:48 GMT
#588
Go Snute!
Go Scarlett!
Send Nerchio home!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
AshC
Profile Joined August 2016
United States328 Posts
June 17 2017 22:49 GMT
#589
On June 18 2017 07:46 Penev wrote:
I'm rooting for:
P: Drogo
Z: Stephano
T: MajOr, WinDy, Terran, Princess, Britney, Kitty, Memory, CuteAngel, NoNge, SpeCIal, shofu, Light, ilovealtaria, Mrjamvad, basedlordctc

LOL. The Major meme is real.

I root for Drogo, Elazer and Kelazhur.
temporary1
Profile Joined February 2015
69 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-17 22:51:00
June 17 2017 22:50 GMT
#590
On a second thought, Neeb is still likely finalist, even in the current state of the game.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 17 2017 22:52 GMT
#591
On June 18 2017 07:46 Penev wrote:
I'm rooting for:
P: Drogo
Z: Stephano
T: MajOr, WinDy, Terran, Princess, Britney, Kitty, Memory, CuteAngel, NoNge, SpeCIal, shofu, Light, ilovealtaria, Mrjamvad, basedlordctc

I like all these players
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 17 2017 22:53 GMT
#592
On June 18 2017 07:50 temporary1 wrote:
On a second thought, Neeb is still likely finalist, even in the current state of the game.


adepts find a way
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
temporary1
Profile Joined February 2015
69 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-17 23:04:55
June 17 2017 22:57 GMT
#593
On June 18 2017 07:53 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 07:50 temporary1 wrote:
On a second thought, Neeb is still likely finalist, even in the current state of the game.


adepts find a way


Edit: never mind. The game is what it is.
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
June 18 2017 01:36 GMT
#594
Where do I get an updates on which player won or lose?
Big Red Dog!
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 01:38:36
June 18 2017 01:37 GMT
#595
On June 18 2017 10:36 BigRedDog wrote:
Where do I get an updates on which player won or lose?

2017 WCS Jönköping
Faker is the GOAT!
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
June 18 2017 01:39 GMT
#596
On June 18 2017 10:37 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 10:36 BigRedDog wrote:
Where do I get an updates on which player won or lose?

2017 WCS Jönköping


Thanks. I just saw it. Lots of zerg players are winning =)
Big Red Dog!
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 02:10:03
June 18 2017 01:53 GMT
#597
On June 18 2017 06:28 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 06:25 Solar424 wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:21 DieuCure wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:17 Solar424 wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:15 DieuCure wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:13 Solar424 wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:11 DieuCure wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:10 Soke wrote:
7 Zergs guaranteed through because of 80% winrate in challenger/groupstage 1 and 2, 10 total through. Balance kinda made this guaranteed



Right, because Spacemarine and Hades are way better than Snute and Bly.



Ye because there is only good zerg in europe since WoL and bad terrans ?

Foreign Terrans have always been bad aside from a select few. Stop trying to pretend that Zerg is suddenly unbeatable.



Since WoL = suddenly ?

Zerg is easier that's why they are dominant in CN/NA/EU

I'd hardly say Zerg is dominant in China and NA. Masa won NA Challenger for Valencia, Neeb won WCS Austin, and iAsonu and Scarlett have the best players in their regions for years, so it's not because of balance. Zerg has struggled in Korea since LotV came out, and Blizzard is balancing around the highest skill level. There's not some magic feature in the game that makes foreign Protoss and Terran players worse, there just are less of them.


I'm not talking about one tournamente here, another there, i'm talking about overall.

Ye zerg is struggling so hard in Korea since LoTV came out that they was at the two first place in 2016.

3,
Dark won 1 SSL and 1 Cross Final, Solar won 1 SSL, Solar vs Dark in the second SSL and Cross Final
the other Cross final was won by Stats
1 GSL win for Byun
1 GSL win for Zest
IEM Gyeonggi won by Inno
so basically 3 Z wins, 2 P Wins, and 2 T wins
who the fuk said Zerg was struggling in Korea since LOTV

more like Z is struggling in 2017 based on how many Z wins there are: 0
Currently 2 P wins and 1 T Win (SSL Challenger doesn't count)
Faker is the GOAT!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 02:10:09
June 18 2017 02:06 GMT
#598
On June 18 2017 10:53 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 06:28 DieuCure wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:25 Solar424 wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:21 DieuCure wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:17 Solar424 wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:15 DieuCure wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:13 Solar424 wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:11 DieuCure wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:10 Soke wrote:
7 Zergs guaranteed through because of 80% winrate in challenger/groupstage 1 and 2, 10 total through. Balance kinda made this guaranteed



Right, because Spacemarine and Hades are way better than Snute and Bly.



Ye because there is only good zerg in europe since WoL and bad terrans ?

Foreign Terrans have always been bad aside from a select few. Stop trying to pretend that Zerg is suddenly unbeatable.



Since WoL = suddenly ?

Zerg is easier that's why they are dominant in CN/NA/EU

I'd hardly say Zerg is dominant in China and NA. Masa won NA Challenger for Valencia, Neeb won WCS Austin, and iAsonu and Scarlett have the best players in their regions for years, so it's not because of balance. Zerg has struggled in Korea since LotV came out, and Blizzard is balancing around the highest skill level. There's not some magic feature in the game that makes foreign Protoss and Terran players worse, there just are less of them.


I'm not talking about one tournamente here, another there, i'm talking about overall.

Ye zerg is struggling so hard in Korea since LoTV came out that they was at the two first place in 2016.

3,
Dark won 1 SSL and 1 Cross Final, Solar won 1 SSL, Solar vs Dark in the second SSL and Cross Final
the other Cross final was won by Stats
1 GSL win for Byun
1 GSL win for Zest
IEM Gyeonggi won by Inno
so basically 3 Z wins, 2 P Wins, and 2 T wins
who the fuk said Zerg was struggling in Korea since LOTV


Firstly cross finals means nothing. And secondly I suggest you take a look at the WCS standings from 2016. 2 zergs in the top 16 korea. Solar and Dark were the only zergs relevent in any tournament for the whole year.....

2017 is an improvement with soO and byuL returning to form but still. The only zerg we talk about being ontop is soO. Compared with 5 or 6 terrans and 2 or 3 protosses.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 05:24:46
June 18 2017 02:13 GMT
#599
On June 18 2017 11:06 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 10:53 AzAlexZ wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:28 DieuCure wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:25 Solar424 wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:21 DieuCure wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:17 Solar424 wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:15 DieuCure wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:13 Solar424 wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:11 DieuCure wrote:
On June 18 2017 06:10 Soke wrote:
7 Zergs guaranteed through because of 80% winrate in challenger/groupstage 1 and 2, 10 total through. Balance kinda made this guaranteed



Right, because Spacemarine and Hades are way better than Snute and Bly.



Ye because there is only good zerg in europe since WoL and bad terrans ?

Foreign Terrans have always been bad aside from a select few. Stop trying to pretend that Zerg is suddenly unbeatable.



Since WoL = suddenly ?

Zerg is easier that's why they are dominant in CN/NA/EU

I'd hardly say Zerg is dominant in China and NA. Masa won NA Challenger for Valencia, Neeb won WCS Austin, and iAsonu and Scarlett have the best players in their regions for years, so it's not because of balance. Zerg has struggled in Korea since LotV came out, and Blizzard is balancing around the highest skill level. There's not some magic feature in the game that makes foreign Protoss and Terran players worse, there just are less of them.


I'm not talking about one tournamente here, another there, i'm talking about overall.

Ye zerg is struggling so hard in Korea since LoTV came out that they was at the two first place in 2016.

3,
Dark won 1 SSL and 1 Cross Final, Solar won 1 SSL, Solar vs Dark in the second SSL and Cross Final
the other Cross final was won by Stats
1 GSL win for Byun
1 GSL win for Zest
IEM Gyeonggi won by Inno
so basically 3 Z wins, 2 P Wins, and 2 T wins
who the fuk said Zerg was struggling in Korea since LOTV


Firstly cross finals means nothing. And secondly I suggest you take a look at the WCS standings from 2016. 2 zergs in the top 16 korea. Solar and Dark were the only zergs relevent in any tournament for the whole year.....

2017 is an improvement with soO and byuL returning to form but still. The only zerg we talk about being ontop is soO. Compared with 5 or 6 terrans and 2 or 3 protosses.

that's a stupid argument, those 2 top 16 zergs are also the 2 highest in points over anyone, Dark took so many points lol, most of the other P's and T's have like very low points
yet 1 of the only 2 Korean zergs and 1 of the only 2 Korean terrans in the Global finals made it all the way to the finals.
Zest won 1 GSL then fell in a major slump and almost no other Protoss picked up after him, sOs had a miracle run that meant nothing in the end cuz he got mauled by Byun in the finals and Stats hasn't reached god-like levels like he did in 2017 yet.
out of the Top 16 in Korea only Byun, TY, Zest (in early 2016), Stats, Dark and Solar were relevant, they were the only ones 'doing well' in Korea and that's why they are the top in Korea, no one performed close to them.
Out of the 6 that I have listed all 6 of them were in the finals of one premier tournament before Blizzcon and 5 of them won a Starleague or Crossfinal
TY was a GSL finalist, Dark and Solar won SSL, Stats and Dark won Cross Final, Zest and Byun won GSL.
Faker is the GOAT!
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 02:26:06
June 18 2017 02:25 GMT
#600
On another note, Go Neeb!!!!!!!!!
Faker is the GOAT!
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
00:00
TLMC #22: Map Judging #2
CranKy Ducklings43
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 95
ROOTCatZ 90
Tasteless 0
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6283
firebathero 670
Leta 179
Pusan 120
Icarus 9
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm106
League of Legends
JimRising 728
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K618
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox241
Other Games
summit1g12408
C9.Mang0487
PiGStarcraft221
Maynarde91
Mew2King22
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV4
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH189
• practicex 26
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1682
• Rush1129
Other Games
• Scarra957
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Team League
6h 25m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 5h
WardiTV Team League
1d 6h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 10h
BSL
1d 14h
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
OSC
2 days
BSL
2 days
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.