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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 10 2016 18:05 GMT
#501
I don't think FireCake will make it in the team, but I think Stephano will and it would not be a bad choice with how much he has been playing.

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
395 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-10 18:06:37
December 10 2016 18:06 GMT
#502
I do like that the first stage of the game is faster compared to previous expansions/bw, but being maxed out in 8th (or even 7th?) minute is retarded
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 10 2016 18:07 GMT
#503
On December 11 2016 03:05 Musicus wrote:
I don't think FireCake will make it in the team, but I think Stephano will and it would not be a bad choice with how much he has been playing.

https://twitter.com/MD_Stephano/status/807184213409693696


In decent shape Stephano means DH Valencia/Shoutcraft July results. Imagine if he really gets back in form for those sweet WESG $$$
Zest fanboy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-10 18:08:22
December 10 2016 18:07 GMT
#504
On December 11 2016 03:06 seopthi wrote:
I do like that the first stage of the game is faster compared to previous expansions/bw, but being maxed out in 8th (or even 7th?) minute is retarded

You could max out on roaches in 12 minutes game time in HotS which isn't even that much later than what just happened.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 10 2016 18:08 GMT
#505
On December 11 2016 03:05 Musicus wrote:
I don't think FireCake will make it in the team, but I think Stephano will and it would not be a bad choice with how much he has been playing.

https://twitter.com/MD_Stephano/status/807184213409693696


You could make an argument that Stephano's the third best player in France.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 10 2016 18:09 GMT
#506
On December 11 2016 03:07 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 03:06 seopthi wrote:
I do like that the first stage of the game is faster compared to previous expansions/bw, but being maxed out in 8th (or even 7th?) minute is retarded

You could max out on roaches in 12 minutes game time in HotS which isn't even that much later than what just happened.

Pretty sure roach max went down to something like 10:30 HotS time even.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 10 2016 18:09 GMT
#507
On December 11 2016 03:05 geokilla wrote:
Anyone feel Roach Ravager is too strong now that Tanks cannot lift?

I think because of the tank damage buff if you have a defensive setup it's still just fine.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
December 10 2016 18:10 GMT
#508
On December 11 2016 03:09 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 03:07 Elentos wrote:
On December 11 2016 03:06 seopthi wrote:
I do like that the first stage of the game is faster compared to previous expansions/bw, but being maxed out in 8th (or even 7th?) minute is retarded

You could max out on roaches in 12 minutes game time in HotS which isn't even that much later than what just happened.

Pretty sure roach max went down to something like 10:30 HotS time even.


When stephano first came up with it it was like 11 minutes in wol so yeah, pretty similar to what Dark just did in lotv time.
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
December 10 2016 18:10 GMT
#509
Dark vs Stats again
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BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
December 10 2016 18:10 GMT
#510
On December 11 2016 03:06 seopthi wrote:
I do like that the first stage of the game is faster compared to previous expansions/bw, but being maxed out in 8th (or even 7th?) minute is retarded


so when the game was slower how did the 11 min roach max make you feel
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 10 2016 18:12 GMT
#511
On December 11 2016 03:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 03:05 Musicus wrote:
I don't think FireCake will make it in the team, but I think Stephano will and it would not be a bad choice with how much he has been playing.

https://twitter.com/MD_Stephano/status/807184213409693696


You could make an argument that Stephano's the third best player in France.

1) Clem
2) Yogo
3) Stephano
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
December 10 2016 18:13 GMT
#512
Is this most stacked Shoutcraft ever? Big name after big name, holy hell!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 10 2016 18:13 GMT
#513
On December 11 2016 03:12 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 03:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On December 11 2016 03:05 Musicus wrote:
I don't think FireCake will make it in the team, but I think Stephano will and it would not be a bad choice with how much he has been playing.

https://twitter.com/MD_Stephano/status/807184213409693696


You could make an argument that Stephano's the third best player in France.

1) Clem
2) Yogo
3) Stephano


Oh I forgot MouLou. Fourth best then.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 10 2016 18:15 GMT
#514
Honestly PvZ has been pretty stale when it comes to openings for a long time. People figure out like 1 or 2 builds and those are the ones they do over and over. From "French" PvZ to double stargate phoenix into chargelot/archon vs lurkers to some sort of adept pressure to the DT/Archon drop
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-10 18:17:15
December 10 2016 18:16 GMT
#515
I mean Stats has successfully done this exact same thing against Solar, he's definitely not without chance.

Nvm lost the prism in the first 5 seconds of the fight
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 10 2016 18:17 GMT
#516
On December 11 2016 03:15 Elentos wrote:
Honestly PvZ has been pretty stale when it comes to openings for a long time. People figure out like 1 or 2 builds and those are the ones they do over and over. From "French" PvZ to double stargate phoenix into chargelot/archon vs lurkers to some sort of adept pressure to the DT/Archon drop


True, but I'd argue that those 1 or 2 builds have typically changed more often than in other match-ups. It was double stargate for a few weeks, ling drops for a few weeks, and this is the first build to have stuck this long.

The chargelot follow up is interesting though I'm not convinced it's actually that good.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
December 10 2016 18:17 GMT
#517
On December 11 2016 03:13 KappaKingPrime wrote:
Is this most stacked Shoutcraft ever? Big name after big name, holy hell!

Agreed this lineup is insane
Neosteel Enthusiast
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
December 10 2016 18:18 GMT
#518
The best is still that Classic was the replacement player.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 10 2016 18:19 GMT
#519
On December 11 2016 03:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 03:15 Elentos wrote:
Honestly PvZ has been pretty stale when it comes to openings for a long time. People figure out like 1 or 2 builds and those are the ones they do over and over. From "French" PvZ to double stargate phoenix into chargelot/archon vs lurkers to some sort of adept pressure to the DT/Archon drop


True, but I'd argue that those 1 or 2 builds have typically changed more often than in other match-ups. It was double stargate for a few weeks, ling drops for a few weeks, and this is the first build to have stuck this long.

The chargelot follow up is interesting though I'm not convinced it's actually that good.

I think he'd have won the game if he hadn't immediately lost the prism tbh
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-10 18:20:56
December 10 2016 18:20 GMT
#520
On December 11 2016 03:19 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 03:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On December 11 2016 03:15 Elentos wrote:
Honestly PvZ has been pretty stale when it comes to openings for a long time. People figure out like 1 or 2 builds and those are the ones they do over and over. From "French" PvZ to double stargate phoenix into chargelot/archon vs lurkers to some sort of adept pressure to the DT/Archon drop


True, but I'd argue that those 1 or 2 builds have typically changed more often than in other match-ups. It was double stargate for a few weeks, ling drops for a few weeks, and this is the first build to have stuck this long.

The chargelot follow up is interesting though I'm not convinced it's actually that good.

I think he'd have won the game if he hadn't immediately lost the prism tbh


I didn't say it couldn't work. I've seen sOs win with similar builds. I just don't think it's a solid build.
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