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[SPL] Round 3 2016 - KT Rolster vs Afreeca Freecs - Page 12

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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18519 Posts
July 10 2016 10:12 GMT
#221
On July 10 2016 19:11 Elentos wrote:
Leenock has a garbage head-to-head against Curious, too. Safe to say KT expected a Protoss.


When I expect a protoss I send out Stats...
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 10 2016 10:12 GMT
#222
Leenock has been fielded in as many ace matches as Stats this year. That is criminal.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 10 2016 10:13 GMT
#223
On July 10 2016 19:12 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2016 19:11 Elentos wrote:
Leenock has a garbage head-to-head against Curious, too. Safe to say KT expected a Protoss.


When I expect a protoss I send out Stats...

I, too, loved his series vs MyuNgSiK
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-10 10:14:26
July 10 2016 10:13 GMT
#224
On July 10 2016 19:12 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2016 19:11 Elentos wrote:
Leenock has a garbage head-to-head against Curious, too. Safe to say KT expected a Protoss.


When I expect a protoss I send out Stats...

When I expect the other team to send out any player for the ace match, I don't send Leenock. Not in 2016, anyway. But he's surprisingly solid on Overgrowth.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
July 10 2016 10:14 GMT
#225
On July 10 2016 19:13 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2016 19:12 sharkie wrote:
On July 10 2016 19:11 Elentos wrote:
Leenock has a garbage head-to-head against Curious, too. Safe to say KT expected a Protoss.


When I expect a protoss I send out Stats...

When I expect the other team to send out any player for the ace match, I don't send Leenock. Not in 2016, anyway.


The only reasonable conclusion is that KT expected ST_Aphrodite to be sent out.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
July 10 2016 10:14 GMT
#226
Did the KT coaches expect everyone to expect another Zest ace, and therefore knew Afreeca would send a zerg sniper, and therefore decided to counter-snipe?

Even if that's true, I still can't understand why they don't just send Stats. Surely he must be better at PvZ than Leenock is ZvZ, even if Leenock is prepared for this.
Flash | Mvp
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 10 2016 10:15 GMT
#227
On July 10 2016 19:14 Ctesias wrote:
Did the KT coaches expect everyone to expect another Zest ace, and therefore knew Afreeca would send a zerg sniper, and therefore decided to counter-snipe?

Even if that's true, I still can't understand why they don't just send Stats. Surely he must be better at PvZ than Leenock is ZvZ, even if Leenock is prepared for this.

gold base abuse
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 10 2016 10:15 GMT
#228
On July 10 2016 19:14 Ctesias wrote:
Did the KT coaches expect everyone to expect another Zest ace, and therefore knew Afreeca would send a zerg sniper, and therefore decided to counter-snipe?

Even if that's true, I still can't understand why they don't just send Stats. Surely he must be better at PvZ than Leenock is ZvZ, even if Leenock is prepared for this.


Yeah, no way that's what they expected, because as you say you'd be sending Stats.

Leenock must have been specifically prepared for this situation but I still don't have much faith
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-10 10:16:51
July 10 2016 10:16 GMT
#229
On July 10 2016 19:14 Ctesias wrote:
Did the KT coaches expect everyone to expect another Zest ace, and therefore knew Afreeca would send a zerg sniper, and therefore decided to counter-snipe?

Even if that's true, I still can't understand why they don't just send Stats. Surely he must be better at PvZ than Leenock is ZvZ, even if Leenock is prepared for this.

Even just sending TY would be a better choice because he already prepared for Curious once and just got a bit unlucky he got cheesed out.

Odds are they expected Super and wanted Leenock to go for the gold.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24236 Posts
July 10 2016 10:16 GMT
#230
let's hope Leenock does this so that Gumiho can rock the playoffs
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18519 Posts
July 10 2016 10:17 GMT
#231
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 10 2016 10:18 GMT
#232
On July 10 2016 19:17 sharkie wrote:
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL?

They're only top 2, how could they?!
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24236 Posts
July 10 2016 10:18 GMT
#233
On July 10 2016 19:17 sharkie wrote:
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL?

well this round they're doing alright
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
July 10 2016 10:19 GMT
#234
On July 10 2016 19:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2016 19:17 sharkie wrote:
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL?

They're only top 2, how could they?!

Shameful.
Flash | Mvp
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 10 2016 10:19 GMT
#235
On July 10 2016 19:17 sharkie wrote:
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL?


TY is at like 50% winrate in PL. But yeah KT's doing fine.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 10 2016 10:19 GMT
#236
On July 10 2016 19:17 sharkie wrote:
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL?


How can SKT be last?
Liquipedia"Expert"
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18519 Posts
July 10 2016 10:20 GMT
#237
On July 10 2016 19:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2016 19:17 sharkie wrote:
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL?

They're only top 2, how could they?!


they are top3 in standings... JA and SKT are above them
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 10 2016 10:20 GMT
#238
12 pool. RIP.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 10 2016 10:20 GMT
#239
For fucks sake.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24236 Posts
July 10 2016 10:20 GMT
#240
On July 10 2016 19:19 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2016 19:17 sharkie wrote:
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL?


How can SKT be last?

this is a real question
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