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Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
March 04 2016 15:34 GMT
#381
On March 05 2016 00:25 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 00:20 Philozovic wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:04 Soularion wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:04 ArtyK wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:01 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:59 ArtyK wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:57 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:57 ArtyK wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:56 Philozovic wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:52 Soularion wrote:
[quote]
Even without trying my PR has a 50% prediction rate, which breaks your clause. Ego unchecked, kid.


Worst PR since September 2013


Not that i read all PR's since 2013 but is that really important?

Note that there's been, like, six PRs since September 2013, and this tournament is hardly over


Giving up on ranking all 32 players and just making predictions on each rounds of the bracket while keeping the write-up for each player would probably get you less fanboys hate :p

Ehh. Predictions for each match makes the focus on the match, while I wanted to keep the focus on the players. If I get fanboy hate, no big deal. It's not like it matters. v0v


Maybe only have top 32-16, 16-8, 8-4, 4-2, 2-1 ranks then, instead of 32 each

Would that really have avoided the controversy? I mean, the two picks I get flack for (PtitDrogo #3 and Polt #5) would've been even more questionable with that system.


Serral, Bly and neeb were also pretty questionable ! :D
Also Firegod too low !
Major too no way he is the third worst player

Bly isn't really questionable. His online performance has been solid, and his Leipzig run was enough to not drop him down at all. Sure he lost to Elazer, but Elazer should've been around where he was because of GPI and the like

Serral and FireCake probably could've been swapped- FireCake came from valuing online equal to offline which is a little questionable because of what I did with PtitDrogo, but I think Serral overall has enough achievements so far to justify his place. Did he underperform? Yeah! But PRs are ultimately a collection of what has happened so far, not a predictor of things to come.

MajOr struggled with pretty much everyone in NA and lost his throne in South America, so I picked him as the odd one out from NA. You could swap him with puCK and be fine, but.. yeah, it's so close down there that it really doesn't matter. 30 to 26 isn't a relevant mess-up.

Neeb at #8 was entirely relevant based on his previous results, and he performed up to expectations. Losing 2-3 in a tight set to the #2 is exactly as expected based on results, even though he underperformed against Kelazhur.


Well bly didn't even qualify for the event just like drogo
Neeb as litteraly 0 offline resultat ever
Major is around since forever and give more than a run for his money to Snute he always has been kind of solid
Serral is really good but no way he should be that high
Firecake is really really legit and people keep understimate him for no reason
Elazer was really low too If I recall

I'm not mad or anything, I'm just bored at work (in case you were wondering )
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
March 04 2016 15:35 GMT
#382
On March 05 2016 00:31 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:

lame, he could have sold Polt's Pizza to his fans and order a whole new one
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
March 04 2016 15:35 GMT
#383
On March 05 2016 00:34 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 00:32 Musicus wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:31 Soularion wrote:
Elazer vs Hydra is gonna be very interesting. Wouldn't be surprised to see Elazer make a really noteworthy performance here.


Yep, could be the upset few saw coming.

the only one Elazer is scared of is Nerchio


Rightfully so!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 04 2016 15:36 GMT
#384
On March 05 2016 00:35 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 00:34 Shellshock wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:32 Musicus wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:31 Soularion wrote:
Elazer vs Hydra is gonna be very interesting. Wouldn't be surprised to see Elazer make a really noteworthy performance here.


Yep, could be the upset few saw coming.

the only one Elazer is scared of is Nerchio


Rightfully so!

indeed. a brutal head to head record although not as bad as the huk vs nerchio one people were talking about yesterday
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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
March 04 2016 15:36 GMT
#385
75 miles = 200 kilometers
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 04 2016 15:38 GMT
#386
On March 05 2016 00:36 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 00:35 Musicus wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:34 Shellshock wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:32 Musicus wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:31 Soularion wrote:
Elazer vs Hydra is gonna be very interesting. Wouldn't be surprised to see Elazer make a really noteworthy performance here.


Yep, could be the upset few saw coming.

the only one Elazer is scared of is Nerchio


Rightfully so!

indeed. a brutal head to head record although not as bad as the huk vs nerchio one people were talking about yesterday

Ouch.
kiss kiss fall in love
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
March 04 2016 15:39 GMT
#387
crappy zvz zzzzzzzzz
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 04 2016 15:39 GMT
#388
aw man that pathing fuck up
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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
March 04 2016 15:39 GMT
#389
I hate zvzzzzz
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 04 2016 15:39 GMT
#390
On March 05 2016 00:34 Philozovic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 00:25 Soularion wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:20 Philozovic wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:04 Soularion wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:04 ArtyK wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:01 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:59 ArtyK wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:57 Soularion wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:57 ArtyK wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:56 Philozovic wrote:
[quote]

Worst PR since September 2013


Not that i read all PR's since 2013 but is that really important?

Note that there's been, like, six PRs since September 2013, and this tournament is hardly over


Giving up on ranking all 32 players and just making predictions on each rounds of the bracket while keeping the write-up for each player would probably get you less fanboys hate :p

Ehh. Predictions for each match makes the focus on the match, while I wanted to keep the focus on the players. If I get fanboy hate, no big deal. It's not like it matters. v0v


Maybe only have top 32-16, 16-8, 8-4, 4-2, 2-1 ranks then, instead of 32 each

Would that really have avoided the controversy? I mean, the two picks I get flack for (PtitDrogo #3 and Polt #5) would've been even more questionable with that system.


Serral, Bly and neeb were also pretty questionable ! :D
Also Firegod too low !
Major too no way he is the third worst player

Bly isn't really questionable. His online performance has been solid, and his Leipzig run was enough to not drop him down at all. Sure he lost to Elazer, but Elazer should've been around where he was because of GPI and the like

Serral and FireCake probably could've been swapped- FireCake came from valuing online equal to offline which is a little questionable because of what I did with PtitDrogo, but I think Serral overall has enough achievements so far to justify his place. Did he underperform? Yeah! But PRs are ultimately a collection of what has happened so far, not a predictor of things to come.

MajOr struggled with pretty much everyone in NA and lost his throne in South America, so I picked him as the odd one out from NA. You could swap him with puCK and be fine, but.. yeah, it's so close down there that it really doesn't matter. 30 to 26 isn't a relevant mess-up.

Neeb at #8 was entirely relevant based on his previous results, and he performed up to expectations. Losing 2-3 in a tight set to the #2 is exactly as expected based on results, even though he underperformed against Kelazhur.


Well bly didn't even qualify for the event just like drogo
Neeb as litteraly 0 offline resultat ever
Major is around since forever and give more than a run for his money to Snute he always has been kind of solid
Serral is really good but no way he should be that high
Firecake is really really legit and people keep understimate him for no reason
Elazer was really low too If I recall

I'm not mad or anything, I'm just bored at work (in case you were wondering )

Neeb took PtitDrogo to 5 games at Leipzig, which I thought was about where he should be in terms of performance, so I predicted him to do the same here- at which point he would fit in at #8, beat Kelazhur, and lose close to Hydra. Hey, look at what happened! When you look at MajOr's record, you seem to think him being around since forever is a good thing. He's literally 0-6 in WCS- 0-7 now. He has a history of underperforming, which is significantly worse than nothing. FireCake lost /huge/ to Serral at Leipzig, lost hard in GPL to fuckin' DIMAGA and TomikuS, lost to MaNa/Elazer in Acer, lost big to ShoWTimE in Regionals- I underestimated him, sure, but looking at those results it's pretty fair ot underestimate him. Elazer I've gone over a dozen times

Gonna stop arguing now. Read the article~
Writermaru pls
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 04 2016 15:39 GMT
#391
On March 05 2016 00:39 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I hate zvzzzzz


ZvZ was at its best at the very end of HotS
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Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
March 04 2016 15:40 GMT
#392
Too much ZvZzzzzz for me.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
March 04 2016 15:40 GMT
#393
On March 05 2016 00:39 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 00:39 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I hate zvzzzzz


ZvZ was at its best at the very end of HotS

I didn't notice anything different about ZvZ at end HotS vs ZvZ at any other point in time in HotS....
rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
March 04 2016 15:41 GMT
#394
Best game of the series so far.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 04 2016 15:41 GMT
#395
Poll: Recommend Elazer vs iAsonu game 3?

* Terrible (1)
 
17%

** Not Recommended (1)
 
17%

*** Pretty Good (2)
 
33%

**** Very Nice (1)
 
17%

***** Amazing! (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Elazer vs iAsonu game 3?

(Vote): * Terrible
(Vote): ** Not Recommended
(Vote): *** Pretty Good
(Vote): **** Very Nice
(Vote): ***** Amazing!

Neosteel Enthusiast
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
March 04 2016 15:41 GMT
#396
On March 05 2016 00:36 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 00:35 Musicus wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:34 Shellshock wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:32 Musicus wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:31 Soularion wrote:
Elazer vs Hydra is gonna be very interesting. Wouldn't be surprised to see Elazer make a really noteworthy performance here.


Yep, could be the upset few saw coming.

the only one Elazer is scared of is Nerchio


Rightfully so!

indeed. a brutal head to head record although not as bad as the huk vs nerchio one people were talking about yesterday


Nerchio has these kind of records vs so many players, really sick.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
March 04 2016 15:41 GMT
#397
On March 05 2016 00:40 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 00:39 stuchiu wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:39 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I hate zvzzzzz


ZvZ was at its best at the very end of HotS

I didn't notice anything different about ZvZ at end HotS vs ZvZ at any other point in time in HotS....

soO got bored of rolling everyone with ridiculous roach micro so he remade the zvz meta into 2 hatch muta
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 04 2016 15:42 GMT
#398
On March 05 2016 00:41 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 00:36 Shellshock wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:35 Musicus wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:34 Shellshock wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:32 Musicus wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:31 Soularion wrote:
Elazer vs Hydra is gonna be very interesting. Wouldn't be surprised to see Elazer make a really noteworthy performance here.


Yep, could be the upset few saw coming.

the only one Elazer is scared of is Nerchio


Rightfully so!

indeed. a brutal head to head record although not as bad as the huk vs nerchio one people were talking about yesterday


Nerchio has these kind of records vs so many players, really sick.

What a god.

POLAND STRONG.
kiss kiss fall in love
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
March 04 2016 15:43 GMT
#399
On March 05 2016 00:41 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 00:40 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:39 stuchiu wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:39 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I hate zvzzzzz


ZvZ was at its best at the very end of HotS

I didn't notice anything different about ZvZ at end HotS vs ZvZ at any other point in time in HotS....

soO got bored of rolling everyone with ridiculous roach micro so he remade the zvz meta into 2 hatch muta

I was unaware this existed, as T I just see roaches amoved into bunkers....
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 04 2016 15:43 GMT
#400
On March 05 2016 00:41 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 00:36 Shellshock wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:35 Musicus wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:34 Shellshock wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:32 Musicus wrote:
On March 05 2016 00:31 Soularion wrote:
Elazer vs Hydra is gonna be very interesting. Wouldn't be surprised to see Elazer make a really noteworthy performance here.


Yep, could be the upset few saw coming.

the only one Elazer is scared of is Nerchio


Rightfully so!

indeed. a brutal head to head record although not as bad as the huk vs nerchio one people were talking about yesterday


Nerchio has these kind of records vs so many players, really sick.

Nerchio has a 77% winrate vs foreigners in LotV.

What's crazier is, that grows to FUCKING 87% in full matches.

Across almost ~300 matches. Jesus christ, dude.
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