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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
April 29 2015 16:55 GMT
#241
On April 30 2015 01:53 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 01:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
It seems to me Elazer has dealt with the cannon rush pretty well.

he did nothing wrong, but the cannon rush still hurt him, I'm surprised Showtime didn't try to cannon the 7 o'clock base, not like Z can take another 3rd then TBH


I don't think the rush hurt him very much. At least not as much as it hurt Showtime. He had to spend over 400 minerals on pylons and cannons to cancel a base where Elazer already had his third ready to go. He got basically no value out of those buildings other than forcing an awkward second base which he did nothing to punish.
Wat
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
April 29 2015 16:55 GMT
#242
Hahahah that burrow so sick
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
April 29 2015 16:56 GMT
#243
Good job Elazer! Well played
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 29 2015 16:56 GMT
#244
On April 30 2015 01:55 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 01:53 Ej_ wrote:
On April 30 2015 01:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
It seems to me Elazer has dealt with the cannon rush pretty well.

he did nothing wrong, but the cannon rush still hurt him, I'm surprised Showtime didn't try to cannon the 7 o'clock base, not like Z can take another 3rd then TBH


I don't think the rush hurt him very much. At least not as much as it hurt Showtime. He had to spend over 400 minerals on pylons and cannons to cancel a base where Elazer already had his third ready to go. He got basically no value out of those buildings other than forcing an awkward second base which he did nothing to punish.

that too
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 29 2015 16:56 GMT
#245
On April 30 2015 01:55 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 01:53 Ej_ wrote:
On April 30 2015 01:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
It seems to me Elazer has dealt with the cannon rush pretty well.

he did nothing wrong, but the cannon rush still hurt him, I'm surprised Showtime didn't try to cannon the 7 o'clock base, not like Z can take another 3rd then TBH


I don't think the rush hurt him very much. At least not as much as it hurt Showtime. He had to spend over 400 minerals on pylons and cannons to cancel a base where Elazer already had his third ready to go. He got basically no value out of those buildings other than forcing an awkward second base which he did nothing to punish.


what are you supposed to do vs 3 hatch before pool then? let it happen and 2-base all-in?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
April 29 2015 16:57 GMT
#246
Unless Elazer goes afk, it's over I fear.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 29 2015 16:57 GMT
#247
Elazer #1 foreigner
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
April 29 2015 16:57 GMT
#248
Elazer so sloppy with his hydras though just like last game
Neosteel Enthusiast
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
April 29 2015 16:57 GMT
#249
On April 30 2015 01:56 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 01:55 Tenks wrote:
On April 30 2015 01:53 Ej_ wrote:
On April 30 2015 01:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
It seems to me Elazer has dealt with the cannon rush pretty well.

he did nothing wrong, but the cannon rush still hurt him, I'm surprised Showtime didn't try to cannon the 7 o'clock base, not like Z can take another 3rd then TBH


I don't think the rush hurt him very much. At least not as much as it hurt Showtime. He had to spend over 400 minerals on pylons and cannons to cancel a base where Elazer already had his third ready to go. He got basically no value out of those buildings other than forcing an awkward second base which he did nothing to punish.


what are you supposed to do vs 3 hatch before pool then? let it happen and 2-base all-in?


I'm not a Toss player and I'm not GM so I can't say what he should have done but possibly he should have read the situation better and just FFE'd instead of forcing a cannon rush in a bad situation
Wat
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 29 2015 16:57 GMT
#250
On April 30 2015 01:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Unless Elazer goes afk, it's over I fear.

I fear no more
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
April 29 2015 16:57 GMT
#251
It was easy for him
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-29 16:58:17
April 29 2015 16:57 GMT
#252
Showtime dying a slow painful inevitable death

He probably knows it too which is the worst feeling ever
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
April 29 2015 16:58 GMT
#253
Real bad Performance by Showtime:

1400 floating mins, 500 gas, full chronoboost on natural...
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 29 2015 16:58 GMT
#254
On April 30 2015 01:56 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 01:55 Tenks wrote:
On April 30 2015 01:53 Ej_ wrote:
On April 30 2015 01:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
It seems to me Elazer has dealt with the cannon rush pretty well.

he did nothing wrong, but the cannon rush still hurt him, I'm surprised Showtime didn't try to cannon the 7 o'clock base, not like Z can take another 3rd then TBH


I don't think the rush hurt him very much. At least not as much as it hurt Showtime. He had to spend over 400 minerals on pylons and cannons to cancel a base where Elazer already had his third ready to go. He got basically no value out of those buildings other than forcing an awkward second base which he did nothing to punish.


what are you supposed to do vs 3 hatch before pool then? let it happen and 2-base all-in?

If you open forge and he goes 3hatch you shuold just keep on canonrushing everybase. Elazor could not have defended the base on the right or the left. The moment it was clear that the pylon wall would not be broken he should have rushed to the next base. The pool was like a quarter done at that point.
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2256 Posts
April 29 2015 16:58 GMT
#255
is elazer the new serral or is this too early again
Cogito, ergo Toss
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 29 2015 16:58 GMT
#256
On April 30 2015 01:57 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 01:56 Cheren wrote:
On April 30 2015 01:55 Tenks wrote:
On April 30 2015 01:53 Ej_ wrote:
On April 30 2015 01:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
It seems to me Elazer has dealt with the cannon rush pretty well.

he did nothing wrong, but the cannon rush still hurt him, I'm surprised Showtime didn't try to cannon the 7 o'clock base, not like Z can take another 3rd then TBH


I don't think the rush hurt him very much. At least not as much as it hurt Showtime. He had to spend over 400 minerals on pylons and cannons to cancel a base where Elazer already had his third ready to go. He got basically no value out of those buildings other than forcing an awkward second base which he did nothing to punish.


what are you supposed to do vs 3 hatch before pool then? let it happen and 2-base all-in?


I'm not a Toss player and I'm not GM so I can't say what he should have done but possibly he should have read the situation better and just FFE'd instead of forcing a cannon rush in a bad situation

like I said, I think he could still have cannoned 7 o'clock and force a super awkward base layout for Elazer which could be punished really easily, Iron Fortress is no Deadwing
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
April 29 2015 16:58 GMT
#257
ShoWTimE will probably regret picking up Elazer... I didn't know that kid played this well, pretty flawless series.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
April 29 2015 16:58 GMT
#258
Polish power! ^_^
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
April 29 2015 16:58 GMT
#259
This seems to have backfired. The creep spread from that third base is almost at showtime's base.
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 29 2015 16:59 GMT
#260
maybe showtime should have picked someone else
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