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Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
July 05 2014 15:35 GMT
#241
wow tod so mean lol hope golden can't hear that :D
ForGG. 29/11/2014
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
July 05 2014 15:35 GMT
#242
On July 06 2014 00:33 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 00:32 jakethesnake wrote:
On July 06 2014 00:31 Shellshock wrote:
Unfortunately I missed the games. Did MC play as passive/scared against San as he did when they met last season?

No, he over corrected and got unnecessarily aggressive (classic MC style) and San had incredible engagements to MC's near A-move and just got outclassed.

damn sounds like I missed some fun stuff


San's macro was on another level as well.
vjcamarena
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain493 Posts
July 05 2014 15:36 GMT
#243
VORTIX for the win. Show'em how it's done, man!
Mvp and ForGG! - Vortix FTW - Never forget Lucifron
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
July 05 2014 15:36 GMT
#244
practice for zvz? all you need is make roaches
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
July 05 2014 15:37 GMT
#245
On July 06 2014 00:36 Noonius wrote:
practice for zvz? all you need is make roaches

Making roaches is hard T_T
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
July 05 2014 15:37 GMT
#246
Its actually this season because the gsl is suppose to end on october 4th and kespa cup is september 12-14!!!
Icebound Esports
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
July 05 2014 15:37 GMT
#247
On July 06 2014 00:36 Noonius wrote:
practice for zvz? all you need is make roaches

But you have to know when to make roaches and when to make drones.
why even
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 05 2014 15:38 GMT
#248
On July 05 2014 11:09 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS Predictor says

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [MC, San in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.31 % of the time kr MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 62.69 % of the time kr MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.69 % of the time kr San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 37.31 % of the time kr San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [VortiX, Golden in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- es VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 58.36 % of the time es VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %.
~ 41.64 % of the time es VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 41.64 % of the time kr Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %.
~ 58.36 % of the time kr Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [ForGG, Welmu in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.22 % of the time kr ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %.
~ 37.78 % of the time kr ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- fi Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.78 % of the time fi Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %.
~ 62.22 % of the time fi Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [First, StarDust in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 51.36 % of the time kr First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %.
~ 48.64 % of the time kr First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 48.64 % of the time kr StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %.
~ 51.36 % of the time kr StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.


+ Show Spoiler [Winning Chances] +

WCS EU S2 Premier
kr San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 %
kr StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 %
kr First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 %
es VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 %
kr MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 %
fi Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %


WCS EU Page http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=tournament&tid=17

http://sc2.4ever.tv/


How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 05 2014 15:39 GMT
#249
Heh, Vortix's picture is still the Mouz one.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 05 2014 15:39 GMT
#250
Golden 3-2
Zerg for Life
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-05 15:40:28
July 05 2014 15:39 GMT
#251
On July 06 2014 00:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2014 11:09 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS Predictor says

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [MC, San in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.31 % of the time kr MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 62.69 % of the time kr MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.69 % of the time kr San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 37.31 % of the time kr San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [VortiX, Golden in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- es VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 58.36 % of the time es VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %.
~ 41.64 % of the time es VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 41.64 % of the time kr Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %.
~ 58.36 % of the time kr Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [ForGG, Welmu in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.22 % of the time kr ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %.
~ 37.78 % of the time kr ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- fi Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.78 % of the time fi Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %.
~ 62.22 % of the time fi Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [First, StarDust in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 51.36 % of the time kr First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %.
~ 48.64 % of the time kr First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 48.64 % of the time kr StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %.
~ 51.36 % of the time kr StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.


+ Show Spoiler [Winning Chances] +

WCS EU S2 Premier
kr San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 %
kr StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 %
kr First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 %
es VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 %
kr MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 %
fi Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %


WCS EU Page http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=tournament&tid=17

http://sc2.4ever.tv/


How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?


um..... thats how math works.

welmu has lower points than vortix. vortix is already closer to the average points of top 16 than welmu.

Its the same as saying.
if soo won vs classic he would get from 90% to 100%
but if classic wins its ~1% -> 99.9%
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
July 05 2014 15:39 GMT
#252
On July 06 2014 00:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2014 11:09 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS Predictor says

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [MC, San in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.31 % of the time kr MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 62.69 % of the time kr MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.69 % of the time kr San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 37.31 % of the time kr San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [VortiX, Golden in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- es VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 58.36 % of the time es VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %.
~ 41.64 % of the time es VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 41.64 % of the time kr Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %.
~ 58.36 % of the time kr Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [ForGG, Welmu in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.22 % of the time kr ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %.
~ 37.78 % of the time kr ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- fi Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.78 % of the time fi Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %.
~ 62.22 % of the time fi Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [First, StarDust in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 51.36 % of the time kr First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %.
~ 48.64 % of the time kr First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 48.64 % of the time kr StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %.
~ 51.36 % of the time kr StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.


+ Show Spoiler [Winning Chances] +

WCS EU S2 Premier
kr San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 %
kr StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 %
kr First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 %
es VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 %
kr MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 %
fi Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %


WCS EU Page http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=tournament&tid=17

http://sc2.4ever.tv/


How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?

Because ForGG and Stardust/First get knocked out probably.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
IndoKoreanMuslim
Profile Joined November 2013
United States100 Posts
July 05 2014 15:40 GMT
#253
On July 06 2014 00:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2014 11:09 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS Predictor says

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [MC, San in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.31 % of the time kr MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 62.69 % of the time kr MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.69 % of the time kr San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 37.31 % of the time kr San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [VortiX, Golden in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- es VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 58.36 % of the time es VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %.
~ 41.64 % of the time es VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 41.64 % of the time kr Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %.
~ 58.36 % of the time kr Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [ForGG, Welmu in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.22 % of the time kr ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %.
~ 37.78 % of the time kr ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- fi Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.78 % of the time fi Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %.
~ 62.22 % of the time fi Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [First, StarDust in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 51.36 % of the time kr First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %.
~ 48.64 % of the time kr First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 48.64 % of the time kr StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %.
~ 51.36 % of the time kr StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.


+ Show Spoiler [Winning Chances] +

WCS EU S2 Premier
kr San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 %
kr StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 %
kr First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 %
es VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 %
kr MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 %
fi Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %


WCS EU Page http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=tournament&tid=17

http://sc2.4ever.tv/


How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?

I think it's because Vortix's next opponent, if he wins, is San, which is extremely favored for the latter, while Welmu would have a better chance in a PvP.
Welcome to the internet, where everything is made up and your opinion doesn't matter...
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 05 2014 15:40 GMT
#254
On July 06 2014 00:39 Xinzoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 00:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 05 2014 11:09 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS Predictor says

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [MC, San in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.31 % of the time kr MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 62.69 % of the time kr MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.69 % of the time kr San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 37.31 % of the time kr San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [VortiX, Golden in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- es VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 58.36 % of the time es VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %.
~ 41.64 % of the time es VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 41.64 % of the time kr Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %.
~ 58.36 % of the time kr Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [ForGG, Welmu in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.22 % of the time kr ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %.
~ 37.78 % of the time kr ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- fi Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.78 % of the time fi Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %.
~ 62.22 % of the time fi Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [First, StarDust in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 51.36 % of the time kr First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %.
~ 48.64 % of the time kr First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 48.64 % of the time kr StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %.
~ 51.36 % of the time kr StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.


+ Show Spoiler [Winning Chances] +

WCS EU S2 Premier
kr San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 %
kr StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 %
kr First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 %
es VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 %
kr MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 %
fi Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %


WCS EU Page http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=tournament&tid=17

http://sc2.4ever.tv/


How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?


um..... thats how math works.

welmu has lower points than vortix. vortix is already closer to the average points of top 16 than welmu.


I think he's referring to the fact that even though Vortix's odds are currently higher, he's at 99.69% if he wins and Welmu's at 99.99% if he wins.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-05 15:41:45
July 05 2014 15:41 GMT
#255
On July 06 2014 00:39 Xinzoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 00:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 05 2014 11:09 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS Predictor says

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [MC, San in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.31 % of the time kr MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 62.69 % of the time kr MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.69 % of the time kr San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 37.31 % of the time kr San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [VortiX, Golden in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- es VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 58.36 % of the time es VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %.
~ 41.64 % of the time es VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 41.64 % of the time kr Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %.
~ 58.36 % of the time kr Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [ForGG, Welmu in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.22 % of the time kr ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %.
~ 37.78 % of the time kr ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- fi Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.78 % of the time fi Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %.
~ 62.22 % of the time fi Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [First, StarDust in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 51.36 % of the time kr First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %.
~ 48.64 % of the time kr First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 48.64 % of the time kr StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %.
~ 51.36 % of the time kr StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.


+ Show Spoiler [Winning Chances] +

WCS EU S2 Premier
kr San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 %
kr StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 %
kr First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 %
es VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 %
kr MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 %
fi Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %


WCS EU Page http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=tournament&tid=17

http://sc2.4ever.tv/


How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?


um..... thats how math works.

welmu has lower points than vortix. vortix is already closer to the average points of top 16 than welmu.


If he's closer to already being in than him getting the same number of points puts him 'farther in' for a lack of a better term and should mean he has a higher chance of making blizzcon. Not lower

On July 06 2014 00:40 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 00:39 Xinzoe wrote:
On July 06 2014 00:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 05 2014 11:09 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS Predictor says

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [MC, San in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.31 % of the time kr MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 62.69 % of the time kr MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.69 % of the time kr San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 37.31 % of the time kr San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [VortiX, Golden in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- es VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 58.36 % of the time es VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %.
~ 41.64 % of the time es VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 41.64 % of the time kr Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %.
~ 58.36 % of the time kr Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [ForGG, Welmu in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.22 % of the time kr ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %.
~ 37.78 % of the time kr ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- fi Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.78 % of the time fi Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %.
~ 62.22 % of the time fi Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [First, StarDust in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 51.36 % of the time kr First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %.
~ 48.64 % of the time kr First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 48.64 % of the time kr StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %.
~ 51.36 % of the time kr StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.


+ Show Spoiler [Winning Chances] +

WCS EU S2 Premier
kr San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 %
kr StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 %
kr First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 %
es VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 %
kr MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 %
fi Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %


WCS EU Page http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=tournament&tid=17

http://sc2.4ever.tv/


How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?


um..... thats how math works.

welmu has lower points than vortix. vortix is already closer to the average points of top 16 than welmu.


I think he's referring to the fact that even though Vortix's odds are currently higher, he's at 99.69% if he wins and Welmu's at 99.99% if he wins.


Yea that's what I'm referring to for reference
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
July 05 2014 15:41 GMT
#256
Let's go Golden!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 05 2014 15:42 GMT
#257
On July 06 2014 00:41 Yorkie wrote:
Let's go Golden!

Let's go Vortix!
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12498 Posts
July 05 2014 15:42 GMT
#258
hahaha redeye
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-05 15:44:07
July 05 2014 15:43 GMT
#259
-nuked-
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
July 05 2014 15:44 GMT
#260
On July 06 2014 00:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 00:39 Xinzoe wrote:
On July 06 2014 00:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 05 2014 11:09 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS Predictor says

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [MC, San in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.31 % of the time kr MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 62.69 % of the time kr MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.69 % of the time kr San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 37.31 % of the time kr San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [VortiX, Golden in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- es VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 58.36 % of the time es VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %.
~ 41.64 % of the time es VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 41.64 % of the time kr Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %.
~ 58.36 % of the time kr Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [ForGG, Welmu in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.22 % of the time kr ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %.
~ 37.78 % of the time kr ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- fi Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.78 % of the time fi Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %.
~ 62.22 % of the time fi Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [First, StarDust in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 51.36 % of the time kr First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %.
~ 48.64 % of the time kr First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 48.64 % of the time kr StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %.
~ 51.36 % of the time kr StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.


+ Show Spoiler [Winning Chances] +

WCS EU S2 Premier
kr San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 %
kr StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 %
kr First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 %
es VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 %
kr MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 %
fi Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %


WCS EU Page http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=tournament&tid=17

http://sc2.4ever.tv/


How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?


um..... thats how math works.

welmu has lower points than vortix. vortix is already closer to the average points of top 16 than welmu.


If he's closer to already being in than him getting the same number of points puts him 'farther in' for a lack of a better term and should mean he has a higher chance of making blizzcon. Not lower

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 00:40 Circumstance wrote:
On July 06 2014 00:39 Xinzoe wrote:
On July 06 2014 00:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 05 2014 11:09 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS Predictor says

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [MC, San in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.31 % of the time kr MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 62.69 % of the time kr MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.69 % of the time kr San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 37.31 % of the time kr San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [VortiX, Golden in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- es VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 58.36 % of the time es VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %.
~ 41.64 % of the time es VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 41.64 % of the time kr Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %.
~ 58.36 % of the time kr Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [ForGG, Welmu in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.22 % of the time kr ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %.
~ 37.78 % of the time kr ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- fi Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.78 % of the time fi Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %.
~ 62.22 % of the time fi Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [First, StarDust in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 51.36 % of the time kr First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %.
~ 48.64 % of the time kr First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 48.64 % of the time kr StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %.
~ 51.36 % of the time kr StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.


+ Show Spoiler [Winning Chances] +

WCS EU S2 Premier
kr San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 %
kr StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 %
kr First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 %
es VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 %
kr MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 %
fi Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %


WCS EU Page http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=tournament&tid=17

http://sc2.4ever.tv/


How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?


um..... thats how math works.

welmu has lower points than vortix. vortix is already closer to the average points of top 16 than welmu.


I think he's referring to the fact that even though Vortix's odds are currently higher, he's at 99.69% if he wins and Welmu's at 99.99% if he wins.


Yea that's what I'm referring to for reference

On July 06 2014 00:39 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 00:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 05 2014 11:09 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS Predictor says

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [MC, San in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.31 % of the time kr MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 62.69 % of the time kr MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.69 % of the time kr San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 37.31 % of the time kr San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [VortiX, Golden in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- es VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 58.36 % of the time es VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %.
~ 41.64 % of the time es VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 41.64 % of the time kr Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %.
~ 58.36 % of the time kr Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [ForGG, Welmu in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 62.22 % of the time kr ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %.
~ 37.78 % of the time kr ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- fi Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 37.78 % of the time fi Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %.
~ 62.22 % of the time fi Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [First, StarDust in WCS EU S2 Premier] +
WCS EU S2 Premier
- kr First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 51.36 % of the time kr First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %.
~ 48.64 % of the time kr First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 48.64 % of the time kr StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %.
~ 51.36 % of the time kr StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.


+ Show Spoiler [Winning Chances] +

WCS EU S2 Premier
kr San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 %
kr StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 %
kr First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 %
es VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 %
kr MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 %
kr Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 %
fi Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %


WCS EU Page http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=tournament&tid=17

http://sc2.4ever.tv/


How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?

Because ForGG and Stardust/First get knocked out probably.

To clarify, ForGG and Stardust/First are less likely to challenge for a spot if Welmu makes the finals/wins.
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