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[SPL] Jin Air vs CJ Round 4 2014 - Page 9

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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 13:01:23
June 10 2014 12:58 GMT
#161
Sick hold, TRUE, really one of the best ZvZers in Korea right now.

herO-Cure inc.

Poor herO :D
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 13:00:08
June 10 2014 12:58 GMT
#162
Did they say Zerg map to King Sejong Station? I thought its terrible vs Terran, but good vs Protoss? :o

-Checked. Its terrible vs Terran and statistically bad vs Protoss OO
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
June 10 2014 12:58 GMT
#163
On June 10 2014 21:57 `sawyer wrote:
can someone explain to me why TRUE didnt start +2 armor during this WHOLE time


Because it's not that important; when he was behind he couldnt afford it, and when he got the lead it was unnecessary.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 10 2014 12:58 GMT
#164
herO for ace plox. I want Jin Air to win to keep IM alive, but if they don't some more points would be nice.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
`sawyer
Profile Joined June 2014
210 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 13:00:12
June 10 2014 12:59 GMT
#165
On June 10 2014 21:58 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:57 `sawyer wrote:
can someone explain to me why TRUE didnt start +2 armor during this WHOLE time


Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:55 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:54 CruelZeratul wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
TRUE will win this in the end if they keep like this. When he get the same upgrades as Hydra, he will win since he always have better engagement than Hydra.


But he didn't even start second armour upgrade.

It doesn't matter, 2-1 vs. 2-2 makes almost no difference. As I said, TRUE is winning now.

Difference between attack upgrades is important, but +1 or +2 armor doesn't really matter since it takes the same number of shots with +2 attack to kill a Roach with +1 and +2 armor.



On June 10 2014 21:58 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:57 `sawyer wrote:
can someone explain to me why TRUE didnt start +2 armor during this WHOLE time


Because it's not that important; when he was behind he couldnt afford it, and when he got the lead it was unnecessary.


okay i see, casters really made big deal out of upgrade advantage
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3502 Posts
June 10 2014 13:00 GMT
#166
I hope we don't get some weird match-up for this ace...
Horang2 fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 10 2014 13:00 GMT
#167
On June 10 2014 21:57 Pandemona wrote:
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs herO

Good Game (9)
 
75%

Meh Game (3)
 
25%

Excellent Game (0)
 
0%

Bad Game (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs herO

(Vote): Excellent Game
(Vote): Good Game
(Vote): Meh Game
(Vote): Bad Game


ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
June 10 2014 13:00 GMT
#168
On June 10 2014 21:59 `sawyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:58 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:57 `sawyer wrote:
can someone explain to me why TRUE didnt start +2 armor during this WHOLE time


On June 10 2014 21:55 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:54 CruelZeratul wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
TRUE will win this in the end if they keep like this. When he get the same upgrades as Hydra, he will win since he always have better engagement than Hydra.


But he didn't even start second armour upgrade.

It doesn't matter, 2-1 vs. 2-2 makes almost no difference. As I said, TRUE is winning now.

Difference between attack upgrades is important, but +1 or +2 armor doesn't really matter since it takes the same number of shots with +2 attack to kill a Roach with +1 and +2 armor.



okay i see, caster really made big deal out of upgrade advantage


That was true until +2 completed for both players, which was a long time. Hydra had a huge timing to finish the game off but coulnd't.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#169
On June 10 2014 21:59 `sawyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:58 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:57 `sawyer wrote:
can someone explain to me why TRUE didnt start +2 armor during this WHOLE time


On June 10 2014 21:55 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:54 CruelZeratul wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
TRUE will win this in the end if they keep like this. When he get the same upgrades as Hydra, he will win since he always have better engagement than Hydra.


But he didn't even start second armour upgrade.

It doesn't matter, 2-1 vs. 2-2 makes almost no difference. As I said, TRUE is winning now.

Difference between attack upgrades is important, but +1 or +2 armor doesn't really matter since it takes the same number of shots with +2 attack to kill a Roach with +1 and +2 armor.



okay i see, caster really made big deal out of upgrade advantage

It was in the beginning when Hydra had +2 attack while TRUE's +1 attack wasn't even finished yet, but TRUE had a lot better engagements with more Roaches and defender advantages that he turned that in his favor, and from the moment he had the same attack upgrade as Hydra, being down 1 armor upgrade didn't matter with his much better positioning.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#170
Wow, a cool TvP ace!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#171
Maru vs herO

FUCKING HYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3502 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#172
On June 10 2014 22:00 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:59 `sawyer wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:58 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:57 `sawyer wrote:
can someone explain to me why TRUE didnt start +2 armor during this WHOLE time


On June 10 2014 21:55 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:54 CruelZeratul wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
TRUE will win this in the end if they keep like this. When he get the same upgrades as Hydra, he will win since he always have better engagement than Hydra.


But he didn't even start second armour upgrade.

It doesn't matter, 2-1 vs. 2-2 makes almost no difference. As I said, TRUE is winning now.

Difference between attack upgrades is important, but +1 or +2 armor doesn't really matter since it takes the same number of shots with +2 attack to kill a Roach with +1 and +2 armor.



okay i see, caster really made big deal out of upgrade advantage


That was true until +2 completed for both players, which was a long time. Hydra had a huge timing to finish the game off but coulnd't.


mostly because he took stupid engagement (and also True took good ones, but still, I kinda blame Hydra a bit)
Horang2 fan
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#173
Sick ace match too :D
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#174
Maru is gonna get crushed.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#175
HYPE!
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#176
7 minutes?! waaaarggggbbbbblllll
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
June 10 2014 13:02 GMT
#177
Good game incoming! (Ihope!)
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
June 10 2014 13:02 GMT
#178
On June 10 2014 22:01 Daswollvieh wrote:
Maru is gonna get crushed.

I think he has to good mechanics to be crushed, it would be if he gets cheesed or just overextends(like Innovation)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 10 2014 13:02 GMT
#179
FFS
I need to do the banking before 3pm (2pm in UK now) ffs rofl. Going get sacked cuz of pro league xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3502 Posts
June 10 2014 13:03 GMT
#180
come on herO! show them your skill! We need that win!
and also my FPL needs you!
Horang2 fan
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