• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:26
CET 19:26
KST 03:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy5ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool42Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains18
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win
Tourneys
World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Soulkey's decision to leave C9 JaeDong's form before ASL [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
U4GM Tips Counter Enemy Gadgets Fast in Black Ops rsvsr How to Keep Reward Chains Rolling in Monopol u4gm What to Do First in MLB The Show 26 Spring
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1505 users

[SPL] Jin Air vs CJ Round 4 2014 - Page 9

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 17 Next All
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 13:01:23
June 10 2014 12:58 GMT
#161
Sick hold, TRUE, really one of the best ZvZers in Korea right now.

herO-Cure inc.

Poor herO :D
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 13:00:08
June 10 2014 12:58 GMT
#162
Did they say Zerg map to King Sejong Station? I thought its terrible vs Terran, but good vs Protoss? :o

-Checked. Its terrible vs Terran and statistically bad vs Protoss OO
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
June 10 2014 12:58 GMT
#163
On June 10 2014 21:57 `sawyer wrote:
can someone explain to me why TRUE didnt start +2 armor during this WHOLE time


Because it's not that important; when he was behind he couldnt afford it, and when he got the lead it was unnecessary.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 10 2014 12:58 GMT
#164
herO for ace plox. I want Jin Air to win to keep IM alive, but if they don't some more points would be nice.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
`sawyer
Profile Joined June 2014
210 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 13:00:12
June 10 2014 12:59 GMT
#165
On June 10 2014 21:58 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:57 `sawyer wrote:
can someone explain to me why TRUE didnt start +2 armor during this WHOLE time


Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:55 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:54 CruelZeratul wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
TRUE will win this in the end if they keep like this. When he get the same upgrades as Hydra, he will win since he always have better engagement than Hydra.


But he didn't even start second armour upgrade.

It doesn't matter, 2-1 vs. 2-2 makes almost no difference. As I said, TRUE is winning now.

Difference between attack upgrades is important, but +1 or +2 armor doesn't really matter since it takes the same number of shots with +2 attack to kill a Roach with +1 and +2 armor.



On June 10 2014 21:58 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:57 `sawyer wrote:
can someone explain to me why TRUE didnt start +2 armor during this WHOLE time


Because it's not that important; when he was behind he couldnt afford it, and when he got the lead it was unnecessary.


okay i see, casters really made big deal out of upgrade advantage
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3459 Posts
June 10 2014 13:00 GMT
#166
I hope we don't get some weird match-up for this ace...
Horang2 fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 10 2014 13:00 GMT
#167
On June 10 2014 21:57 Pandemona wrote:
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs herO

Good Game (9)
 
75%

Meh Game (3)
 
25%

Excellent Game (0)
 
0%

Bad Game (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs herO

(Vote): Excellent Game
(Vote): Good Game
(Vote): Meh Game
(Vote): Bad Game


ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
June 10 2014 13:00 GMT
#168
On June 10 2014 21:59 `sawyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:58 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:57 `sawyer wrote:
can someone explain to me why TRUE didnt start +2 armor during this WHOLE time


On June 10 2014 21:55 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:54 CruelZeratul wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
TRUE will win this in the end if they keep like this. When he get the same upgrades as Hydra, he will win since he always have better engagement than Hydra.


But he didn't even start second armour upgrade.

It doesn't matter, 2-1 vs. 2-2 makes almost no difference. As I said, TRUE is winning now.

Difference between attack upgrades is important, but +1 or +2 armor doesn't really matter since it takes the same number of shots with +2 attack to kill a Roach with +1 and +2 armor.



okay i see, caster really made big deal out of upgrade advantage


That was true until +2 completed for both players, which was a long time. Hydra had a huge timing to finish the game off but coulnd't.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#169
On June 10 2014 21:59 `sawyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:58 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:57 `sawyer wrote:
can someone explain to me why TRUE didnt start +2 armor during this WHOLE time


On June 10 2014 21:55 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:54 CruelZeratul wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
TRUE will win this in the end if they keep like this. When he get the same upgrades as Hydra, he will win since he always have better engagement than Hydra.


But he didn't even start second armour upgrade.

It doesn't matter, 2-1 vs. 2-2 makes almost no difference. As I said, TRUE is winning now.

Difference between attack upgrades is important, but +1 or +2 armor doesn't really matter since it takes the same number of shots with +2 attack to kill a Roach with +1 and +2 armor.



okay i see, caster really made big deal out of upgrade advantage

It was in the beginning when Hydra had +2 attack while TRUE's +1 attack wasn't even finished yet, but TRUE had a lot better engagements with more Roaches and defender advantages that he turned that in his favor, and from the moment he had the same attack upgrade as Hydra, being down 1 armor upgrade didn't matter with his much better positioning.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#170
Wow, a cool TvP ace!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#171
Maru vs herO

FUCKING HYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3459 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#172
On June 10 2014 22:00 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:59 `sawyer wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:58 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:57 `sawyer wrote:
can someone explain to me why TRUE didnt start +2 armor during this WHOLE time


On June 10 2014 21:55 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:54 CruelZeratul wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
TRUE will win this in the end if they keep like this. When he get the same upgrades as Hydra, he will win since he always have better engagement than Hydra.


But he didn't even start second armour upgrade.

It doesn't matter, 2-1 vs. 2-2 makes almost no difference. As I said, TRUE is winning now.

Difference between attack upgrades is important, but +1 or +2 armor doesn't really matter since it takes the same number of shots with +2 attack to kill a Roach with +1 and +2 armor.



okay i see, caster really made big deal out of upgrade advantage


That was true until +2 completed for both players, which was a long time. Hydra had a huge timing to finish the game off but coulnd't.


mostly because he took stupid engagement (and also True took good ones, but still, I kinda blame Hydra a bit)
Horang2 fan
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#173
Sick ace match too :D
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#174
Maru is gonna get crushed.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#175
HYPE!
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#176
7 minutes?! waaaarggggbbbbblllll
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
June 10 2014 13:02 GMT
#177
Good game incoming! (Ihope!)
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
June 10 2014 13:02 GMT
#178
On June 10 2014 22:01 Daswollvieh wrote:
Maru is gonna get crushed.

I think he has to good mechanics to be crushed, it would be if he gets cheesed or just overextends(like Innovation)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 10 2014 13:02 GMT
#179
FFS
I need to do the banking before 3pm (2pm in UK now) ffs rofl. Going get sacked cuz of pro league xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3459 Posts
June 10 2014 13:03 GMT
#180
come on herO! show them your skill! We need that win!
and also my FPL needs you!
Horang2 fan
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 17 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
17:00
#45
RotterdaM717
TKL 267
SteadfastSC179
IndyStarCraft 136
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 706
TKL 280
SteadfastSC 179
IndyStarCraft 148
ProTech123
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5647
Bisu 1684
Horang2 751
Shuttle 743
Stork 559
Hyuk 371
Larva 362
Mini 330
ggaemo 228
Dewaltoss 179
[ Show more ]
Soma 171
Rush 140
Leta 125
Shine 81
PianO 56
Free 36
Shinee 29
910 24
Aegong 22
Movie 18
Hm[arnc] 18
IntoTheRainbow 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
soO 12
Terrorterran 8
Dota 2
Gorgc6603
canceldota127
BananaSlamJamma92
Counter-Strike
fl0m5451
Fnx 2609
shoxiejesuss2201
pashabiceps1860
byalli399
adren_tv27
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK14
Other Games
Grubby2531
Liquid`RaSZi1521
FrodaN1023
B2W.Neo892
shahzam339
KnowMe155
C9.Mang091
Trikslyr78
crisheroes75
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream64
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 78
• Reevou 10
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota278
League of Legends
• Nemesis3114
• Shiphtur385
Other Games
• imaqtpie954
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
15h 34m
Afreeca Starleague
15h 34m
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
1d 14h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 15h
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Platinum Heroes Events
4 days
BSL
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-22
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.