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Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
June 08 2014 03:33 GMT
#881
On June 08 2014 12:33 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 12:31 Tamagoshi wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 Yorkie wrote:
Zest is the Faker of Starcraft


Faker?

This Korean LoL player widely known as the best mid in the world.

The koreans are better than the europeans in lol? WHat about Alliance?


You might be thinking of Dota. The Asian teams clean house in LoL.

Ah, you are right haha
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 08 2014 03:33 GMT
#882
On June 08 2014 12:32 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 12:31 Tamagoshi wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 Yorkie wrote:
Zest is the Faker of Starcraft


Faker?

This Korean LoL player widely known as the best mid in the world.

The koreans are better than the europeans in lol? WHat about Alliance?


The only major esport the koreans aren't better at is dota to my knowledge


Fighting games too. Though Infiltration is pretty god damn god like.
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aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
June 08 2014 03:34 GMT
#883
Is TB a Star Trek fan? A fellow Trekker. Nice.
KT best KT ~ 2014
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 08 2014 03:34 GMT
#884
On June 08 2014 12:33 Shellshock wrote:
Flash will crush zest in the final. He went 68-2 in practice. Guess who he practiced with

Hitman? Action?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 03:35:53
June 08 2014 03:34 GMT
#885
On June 08 2014 12:33 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 12:32 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:31 Tamagoshi wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 Yorkie wrote:
Zest is the Faker of Starcraft


Faker?

This Korean LoL player widely known as the best mid in the world.

The koreans are better than the europeans in lol? WHat about Alliance?


The only major esport the koreans aren't better at is dota to my knowledge


Fighting games too. Though Infiltration is pretty god damn god like.


Are Korean's big into the fighting game genre? I can't think of any that play smash and that's the only one I follow

On June 08 2014 12:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 12:33 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:31 Tamagoshi wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 Yorkie wrote:
Zest is the Faker of Starcraft


Faker?

This Korean LoL player widely known as the best mid in the world.

The koreans are better than the europeans in lol? WHat about Alliance?

I don't follow LoL at all but from the testimony of my friends they've been winning every major international tournament, it's similar to BW back in it's heyday.


The problem is that there aren't really that many major international tournaments so its hard to tell how good exactly Koreans are compared to foreigners. They are definitely the best, but its not clear exactly be how much.


Didn't SKT just win all stars without losing a map? And overall crushing everyone they came up against?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 03:35:49
June 08 2014 03:34 GMT
#886
On June 08 2014 12:33 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 12:31 Tamagoshi wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 Yorkie wrote:
Zest is the Faker of Starcraft


Faker?

This Korean LoL player widely known as the best mid in the world.

The koreans are better than the europeans in lol? WHat about Alliance?

I don't follow LoL at all but from the testimony of my friends they've been winning every major international tournament, it's similar to BW back in it's heyday.


The problem is that there aren't really that many major international tournaments so its hard to tell how good exactly Koreans are compared to foreigners. They are definitely the best, but its not clear exactly by how much.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
June 08 2014 03:35 GMT
#887
On June 08 2014 12:33 Shellshock wrote:
Flash will crush zest in the final. He went 68-2 in practice. Guess who he practiced with

I can only assume it was Creator with that record
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 08 2014 03:35 GMT
#888
On June 08 2014 12:33 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 12:31 Tamagoshi wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 Yorkie wrote:
Zest is the Faker of Starcraft


Faker?

This Korean LoL player widely known as the best mid in the world.

The koreans are better than the europeans in lol? WHat about Alliance?

I don't follow LoL at all but from the testimony of my friends they've been winning every major international tournament, it's similar to BW back in it's heyday.


I saw a video where they basically said NA vs EU just fight for the bronze now. Basically they've given up even trying.

Also the B-team of KT went undefeated against all of EU at IEM. Didn't even drop a map. At least Dimaga and Yugioh could take out Flash.
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
June 08 2014 03:35 GMT
#889
On June 08 2014 12:32 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Zest is the 2014 version of Innovation at his prime.


So this is how it felt to watch Innovation play during his prime... sweet feeling indeed
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
June 08 2014 03:35 GMT
#890
On June 08 2014 12:31 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 Yorkie wrote:
Zest is the Faker of Starcraft


Nah

He's really good, and is showing his skill especially well for a brief period of time. He will subsequently become extremely hyped for the next 6 months until he is discovered to be merely "great" by Korean standards. Sounds exactly like Faker to me

Could have cleared that up earlier with LR, not many of us play LoL.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 08 2014 03:35 GMT
#891
On June 08 2014 12:34 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 12:33 stuchiu wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:32 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:31 Tamagoshi wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 Yorkie wrote:
Zest is the Faker of Starcraft


Faker?

This Korean LoL player widely known as the best mid in the world.

The koreans are better than the europeans in lol? WHat about Alliance?


The only major esport the koreans aren't better at is dota to my knowledge


Fighting games too. Though Infiltration is pretty god damn god like.


Are Korean's big into the fighting game genre? I can't think of any that play smash and that's the only one I follow


Just Tekken, where they are about the best, but not untouchable.

Infiltration is just a one man army.
Moderator
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 08 2014 03:36 GMT
#892
On June 08 2014 12:33 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 12:32 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:31 Tamagoshi wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 Yorkie wrote:
Zest is the Faker of Starcraft


Faker?

This Korean LoL player widely known as the best mid in the world.

The koreans are better than the europeans in lol? WHat about Alliance?


The only major esport the koreans aren't better at is dota to my knowledge


Fighting games too. Though Infiltration is pretty god damn god like.


Koreans might start getting into the FGC and other console games, like how other countries in Asia are starting to get more into SC2 and the PC scene.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 08 2014 03:36 GMT
#893
On June 08 2014 12:35 silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 12:32 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Zest is the 2014 version of Innovation at his prime.


So this is how it felt to watch Innovation play during his prime... sweet feeling indeed

I didn't even see all of his prime, but it was quite something else.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
June 08 2014 03:36 GMT
#894
Bring it back herO!
KT best KT ~ 2014
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 08 2014 03:37 GMT
#895
Well this is good for herO.
Moderator
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 03:39:09
June 08 2014 03:38 GMT
#896
On June 08 2014 12:35 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 12:34 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:33 stuchiu wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:32 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:31 Tamagoshi wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 Yorkie wrote:
Zest is the Faker of Starcraft


Faker?

This Korean LoL player widely known as the best mid in the world.

The koreans are better than the europeans in lol? WHat about Alliance?


The only major esport the koreans aren't better at is dota to my knowledge


Fighting games too. Though Infiltration is pretty god damn god like.


Are Korean's big into the fighting game genre? I can't think of any that play smash and that's the only one I follow


Just Tekken, where they are about the best, but not untouchable.

Infiltration is just a one man army.


Tekken eh? Paul, Heihachi and Law were my boys. It's been many years since I played in the arcades though.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
June 08 2014 03:38 GMT
#897
On June 08 2014 12:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 12:33 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:31 Tamagoshi wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 Yorkie wrote:
Zest is the Faker of Starcraft


Faker?

This Korean LoL player widely known as the best mid in the world.

The koreans are better than the europeans in lol? WHat about Alliance?

I don't follow LoL at all but from the testimony of my friends they've been winning every major international tournament, it's similar to BW back in it's heyday.


The problem is that there aren't really that many major international tournaments so its hard to tell how good exactly Koreans are compared to foreigners. They are definitely the best, but its not clear exactly by how much.

I think the lack of major international tournaments actually hides the wide skill gap between EU/NA and Korea. Every time they face off head to head Korea dominates, even Korean teams who are middle of the pack in OGN
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
June 08 2014 03:38 GMT
#898
On June 08 2014 12:33 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 12:31 Tamagoshi wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 08 2014 12:29 Yorkie wrote:
Zest is the Faker of Starcraft


Faker?

This Korean LoL player widely known as the best mid in the world.

The koreans are better than the europeans in lol? WHat about Alliance?

I don't follow LoL at all but from the testimony of my friends they've been winning every major international tournament, it's similar to BW back in it's heyday.


ESEX article: http://esportsexpress.com/2014/05/esex-analysis-lol-allstars-2014/
(scroll about halfway down)
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 08 2014 03:38 GMT
#899
I like how during the PvP series, the talk has moved on to other eSports.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 08 2014 03:39 GMT
#900
On June 08 2014 12:35 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 12:33 Shellshock wrote:
Flash will crush zest in the final. He went 68-2 in practice. Guess who he practiced with

I can only assume it was Creator with that record

All zest
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