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[SPL] Jin Air vs IM Round 2 2014 - Page 7

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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 11 2014 11:16 GMT
#121
Yonghwa is living my dream... sitting inbetween Mvp and NesTea
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 11 2014 11:16 GMT
#122
On March 11 2014 20:15 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Trap?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
 
18%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
9%

★★★- Good game (8)
 
73%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Trap?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


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YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
March 11 2014 11:16 GMT
#123
Without swarmhosts, can zerg actually beat a protoss straight up?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 11 2014 11:16 GMT
#124
Now IM's true struggle begins :/

I think Byul can actually take sOs if he doesn't get screwed by sOs' wacky early game xD
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
March 11 2014 11:16 GMT
#125
can someone explain to me what this "tempo" is that some casters started with

what is a tempo play/lead ? ;o
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
looken
Profile Joined September 2011
727 Posts
March 11 2014 11:17 GMT
#126
On March 11 2014 20:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 20:15 Pandemona wrote:
He is countering Phoenix's with Mutas, this guy knows what the fuck he is doing xD


still better than corruptors

You think? I hardly ever see a switch into Mutas work when there are already Phonix out
"Jingle Bells, Tasteless smells" Artosis 17.12.15
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 11 2014 11:17 GMT
#127
On March 11 2014 20:16 YyapSsap wrote:
Without swarmhosts, can zerg actually beat a protoss straight up?


Sure, but the zerg generally has to be much better than the toss.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 11 2014 11:17 GMT
#128
On March 11 2014 20:16 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Now IM's true struggle begins :/

I think Byul can actually take sOs if he doesn't get screwed by sOs' wacky early game xD


not sure if amazing pun, or just talking true... YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 11:17:54
March 11 2014 11:17 GMT
#129
On March 11 2014 20:16 Seeker wrote:
Someone explain to me what happened that game. I thought TRUE had the advantage?

Decided to do a muta switch. Even let his fourth's drones die just to continue hiding the mutas. Then, mutas died to phoenices.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
March 11 2014 11:17 GMT
#130
On March 11 2014 20:16 YyapSsap wrote:
Without swarmhosts, can zerg actually beat a protoss straight up?

ultras are very good without immortals
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
kazyv
Profile Joined May 2013
273 Posts
March 11 2014 11:18 GMT
#131
why didnt he go for an all out attack on the ground army with his initial muta stack? the phoenix cant kite around while the collosi get blown up and after they are gone he can come in with his hydra/zergling, right?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 11 2014 11:18 GMT
#132
sOs can finally lose that losing record
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 11 2014 11:18 GMT
#133
On March 11 2014 20:17 looken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 20:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 11 2014 20:15 Pandemona wrote:
He is countering Phoenix's with Mutas, this guy knows what the fuck he is doing xD


still better than corruptors

You think? I hardly ever see a switch into Mutas work when there are already Phonix out


He's more saying corruptors are shit, than mutas are better.

I think you need SOME corruptors though, as the barrier between the two.

But then you have to really fuck about microing that, and the zealot harrass/etc can roam free.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 11 2014 11:18 GMT
#134
On March 11 2014 20:17 Pangpootata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 20:16 Seeker wrote:
Someone explain to me what happened that game. I thought TRUE had the advantage?

Decided to do a muta switch. Even let his fourth's drones die just to continue hiding the mutas. Then, mutas died to phoenices.


Didn't have any spores either, and Trap's phoenix micro was incredible. Just whittling True down all game
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
March 11 2014 11:19 GMT
#135
On March 11 2014 20:16 YyapSsap wrote:
Without swarmhosts, can zerg actually beat a protoss straight up?


Yes
Rainmansc
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands216 Posts
March 11 2014 11:19 GMT
#136
On March 11 2014 20:17 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 20:16 YyapSsap wrote:
Without swarmhosts, can zerg actually beat a protoss straight up?

ultras are very good without immortals

Its not like he wouldnt have immortals if true would go for ultra's -_-
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 11 2014 11:19 GMT
#137
On March 11 2014 20:18 kazyv wrote:
why didnt he go for an all out attack on the ground army with his initial muta stack? the phoenix cant kite around while the collosi get blown up and after they are gone he can come in with his hydra/zergling, right?


Phoenix do huge dps even without a kite-fest.

It might have worked, but he'd have lost his whole muta-flock, and if 1 or 2 collosi remained, it was game over.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 11 2014 11:20 GMT
#138
No worries, lets continue the PvZ trend of pro league and have sOs win :D
GOOOOOOO JIN AIR
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
March 11 2014 11:20 GMT
#139
On March 11 2014 20:16 nkr wrote:
can someone explain to me what this "tempo" is that some casters started with

what is a tempo play/lead ? ;o


Not sure what you're referring to, but tempo is a dota/moba term for being able to control the pacing of the game.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 11 2014 11:20 GMT
#140
On March 11 2014 20:16 Seeker wrote:
Someone explain to me what happened that game. I thought TRUE had the advantage?


Yes but, it was a Trap!
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
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