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On May 15 2013 21:28 EpiK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 21:22 Toosneaky wrote:
I don't know why wolf and khaldor are making it seem like flash was WAY better. Avenge was pretty much hitting money storms the whole time. Flash only really took that game because of a hidden base. Avenge was denying flash his normal expansions very well. Avenge really showed he's the inferior player by missing the window where he could've ended the game earlier on. Flash also denied all of his proxy pylon attacks and had better engagements overall. Also, notice that Flash was actively scouting for hidden expansions while avenge only knew about the top left bases because of a scv transfer. being able to place a few good storms doesn't make you that good of a player when considering those other factors.
Sorry, Flash had bad engagements, to be honest. Stealth ghosts vs no detection won him that game.
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On May 15 2013 21:30 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 21:28 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 15 2013 21:27 Holgerius wrote:Am I the only one who thought this monkey-thing was flipping everyone off? XD I laughed my ass off when I saw it, until I realized that it wasn't doing that at all.  ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6oZMSLn.png) no its just you, but you can use your Jesus powers to make everyone look at it that way. Might just do that, because it was a hilarious sight. :D
its making me laugh now
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MKP's zerg killer instinct will awake and once again he'll take the most hated by zergs player's crown.
I know it.
Or he won't wall and lose to 6 slow lings.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 15 2013 21:30 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 21:30 Zealously wrote:On May 15 2013 21:27 AgentW wrote:On May 15 2013 21:26 Waxangel wrote:
has life early pooled MKP so much that he's now afraid to cheese him? I figure MKP wouldn't mind playing him in low econ early game micro games Hmm, when was the last time they met in Ro8 in GSL? Pretty sure MKP two raxed him (maybe this was GSL 5?). Didn't work IIRC. Yeah, you don't proxy rax Life + Show Spoiler +Unless you manage to put them one pixel out of overlord vision I think he should! I think he would win!
Well he won't be able to survive standard, so I guess it'd be his best choice
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On May 15 2013 21:27 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 21:26 Scarecrow wrote:On May 15 2013 21:21 Waxangel wrote:On May 15 2013 21:20 Scarecrow wrote:On May 15 2013 21:19 Waxangel wrote:
I don't think anything bothered me more in BW than Flash winning games with hidden bases
except maybe zvz MSLs ;o Well it wasn't really a hidden expand, just he was so far ahead he double expanded to the north and lost the closest. it was hidden, avenge would have killed it at the same time if he had even thought about going there -_- If you take your nat in the fog of war does that make it a hidden expo? Flash didn't expand there hoping it'd be hidden, it was just the next closest base he hadn't taken yet. Technically it was 'hidden' from avenge but a true hidden expo would've been top right or if top left, taken before the closer ones. seems like you agree with me in spirit, I don't care about semantics
It just irritates me seeing these comments of Flash winning because of a hidden base (implying luck/cheese). It was the next logical expansion for Flash, Avenge just failed hard at scouting and Flash was really on top of the pylons.
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On May 15 2013 21:30 Lunareste wrote:
I can't believe that Flash won that game though, blunders aside.
Anytime a Protoss gets a 2 upgrade advantage with Chargelots and Archons it destroys me, but Flash was 4 upgrades behind and he still somehow managed to take it. Insane that he was able to draw his attention away from his base for that duration, because if Avenge had pushed towards the natural, Flash would have been forced to defend it, and he would have lost.
The Observer sniping was very nice though.
my thoughts exactly, i dont think i have ever won with bio, while being that far behind.
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On May 15 2013 21:28 EpiK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 21:22 Toosneaky wrote:
I don't know why wolf and khaldor are making it seem like flash was WAY better. Avenge was pretty much hitting money storms the whole time. Flash only really took that game because of a hidden base. Avenge was denying flash his normal expansions very well. Avenge really showed he's the inferior player by missing the window where he could've ended the game earlier on. Flash also denied all of his proxy pylon attacks and had better engagements overall. Also, notice that Flash was actively scouting for hidden expansions while avenge only knew about the top left bases because of a scv transfer. being able to place a few good storms doesn't make you that good of a player when considering those other factors.
his engagements were horrible, but he had like 10OCs and PFs everywhere so it didn't matter that he was very inefficient.
But his ghostcontrol and stormdodging in the lategame were again really really bad (like in the Parting game).
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this can only end in tears
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Well I guess MKP looking relaxed
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Yikes
(1447) MarineKing 0-0 Life (1985)
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7.87% 2-0 0-2 51.77%
11.32% 2-1 1-2 29.04%
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19.19% 80.81%
Median outcome: MarineKing 0-2 Life
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51730 Posts
On May 15 2013 21:30 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 21:28 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 15 2013 21:27 Holgerius wrote:Am I the only one who thought this monkey-thing was flipping everyone off? XD I laughed my ass off when I saw it, until I realized that it wasn't doing that at all. no its just you, but you can use your Jesus powers to make everyone look at it that way. Might just do that, because it was a hilarious sight. :D
so tell if you're cowboy jesus does that mean you turn water into whiskey or burbon?
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I really hope MKP shows some great games now. Would make my day!
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booth cuteness just broke 9,000
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MKP just has to win and he has the nestea award...
2nd player after Nestea to get Nestea award.
Forever 2nd.
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MKP! MKP! MKP! 
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Gogo MKP, do it for the ForGGeddon.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51730 Posts
On May 15 2013 21:31 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 21:28 EpiK wrote:On May 15 2013 21:22 Toosneaky wrote:
I don't know why wolf and khaldor are making it seem like flash was WAY better. Avenge was pretty much hitting money storms the whole time. Flash only really took that game because of a hidden base. Avenge was denying flash his normal expansions very well. Avenge really showed he's the inferior player by missing the window where he could've ended the game earlier on. Flash also denied all of his proxy pylon attacks and had better engagements overall. Also, notice that Flash was actively scouting for hidden expansions while avenge only knew about the top left bases because of a scv transfer. being able to place a few good storms doesn't make you that good of a player when considering those other factors. Sorry, Flash had bad engagements, to be honest. Stealth ghosts vs no detection won him that game.
on the other hand not having obs is bad,
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On May 15 2013 21:23 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Flash ignores micro constantly like usual, thinking he can muscle through with macro. This won't work with better protoss.
His micro and mutlitasking are really not top tier, he needs more drop plays.
He uses his multitask on constantly using single units/small groups going around the map scouting. Basically no other terran is doing that and I cannot count the games when terran loses to hidden pylons/bases/army movements. But true his micro is not his strongest attribute.
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