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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 20:35:46
February 13 2013 20:34 GMT
#101
On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever.


Which is your decision, just stop BMing players who are better than you if they beat you.

Really excited for HerO vs Puma :D
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 13 2013 20:35 GMT
#102
On February 14 2013 05:28 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I find myself trying to respect Nerchio for his playstyle and how successful he is, but things like this just turn me off. How was that a "cheap win" when HerO completely dissected his play and won it "fairly"? Maybe because I'm not a progamer I won't understand the frustration of losing out on two qualifiers (MLG and now IPL) and on FC, but really, be a bit more mannered.

I didn't really care about advancing to both of these tours. The answer is simple and i find it funny to read all these comments that don't touch me that much. Tournaments are really bad about setting maps for certain rounds. we played on entombed and cloud kingdom which are 2 protoss favoured maps and he got outclassed on balanced map which is daybreak. What's more he used immortal all in in the last game, that's not neccessarily his problem because i agree win is a win but for me it's a cheap win.


Considering the current WoL meta is Zerg favored. Not sure why you are complaining about the maps.
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
February 13 2013 20:36 GMT
#103
On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever.

It's not about having different opinions, it's about your raging after many of your losses which makes you look bad. Seriously just quit the BM, people respect you as a player and respect your opinion. This is not about your opinion, and you know it. It's about you discrediting your opponent in pretty much every game you lose.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
February 13 2013 20:37 GMT
#104
On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever.

Don't expect to have people's respect anymore then.
Moderatorlickypiddy
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
February 13 2013 20:37 GMT
#105
SC2 retro right now.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 13 2013 20:37 GMT
#106
I wonder if he'd bm himself if he won with turtle BL/infestor.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
FollowKronborg
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland21 Posts
February 13 2013 20:38 GMT
#107
On February 14 2013 05:36 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever.

It's not about having different opinions, it's about your raging after many of your losses which makes you look bad. Seriously just quit the BM, people respect you as a player and respect your opinion. This is not about your opinion, and you know it. It's about you discrediting your opponent in pretty much every game you lose.

wut people respect him as a player and respect his opinion? since when?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 13 2013 20:39 GMT
#108
On February 14 2013 02:54 RemarK wrote:
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On February 14 2013 02:45 metroid composite wrote:
On February 13 2013 22:42 mkkillah wrote:
I guess that this "MaSsan" is better then top tier koreans? Taeja, life, bomber, herO... how is that possible if the only thing he really did is defeating EGSuppy in MLG.

this poll has some biased answers.


Yeah, probably troll votes. There's better choices that could have been included as the final option in the poll like, say, Nerchio or TOP or Puma.

(Incidentally, looking at the bracket, MaSsan's already been knocked out by PiG in the first round).


He got a walkover, still a huge upset for PiG though, congratulations to him on this fantastic result

pig is pretty good, man
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 13 2013 20:40 GMT
#109
On February 14 2013 05:38 FollowKronborg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:36 dani` wrote:
On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever.

It's not about having different opinions, it's about your raging after many of your losses which makes you look bad. Seriously just quit the BM, people respect you as a player and respect your opinion. This is not about your opinion, and you know it. It's about you discrediting your opponent in pretty much every game you lose.

wut people respect him as a player and respect his opinion? since when?


He's a good player, he knows the game better than any of us, nobody's denying that.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 20:41:46
February 13 2013 20:40 GMT
#110
On February 14 2013 05:37 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever.

Don't expect to have people's respect anymore then.

I don't need your respect.
On February 14 2013 05:36 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever.

It's not about having different opinions, it's about your raging after many of your losses which makes you look bad. Seriously just quit the BM, people respect you as a player and respect your opinion. This is not about your opinion, and you know it. It's about you discrediting your opponent in pretty much every game you lose.

It is, cause my opinion is that perfectly executed immortal all in is unstoppable and it's been proved a lot of times. If we consider that in addition to sub-par map pool, we can say it was a cheap win. I didn't say Hero is bad either, I just said he did the strategy that would bring him easy win and there was not much i could do.
On February 14 2013 05:38 FollowKronborg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:36 dani` wrote:
On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever.

It's not about having different opinions, it's about your raging after many of your losses which makes you look bad. Seriously just quit the BM, people respect you as a player and respect your opinion. This is not about your opinion, and you know it. It's about you discrediting your opponent in pretty much every game you lose.

wut people respect him as a player and respect his opinion? since when?

Thanks to all haters like you, my life is brighter ^_^
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
pwnz0r
Profile Joined August 2010
United States123 Posts
February 13 2013 20:41 GMT
#111
On February 14 2013 05:40 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:37 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever.

Don't expect to have people's respect anymore then.

I don't need your respect.
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:36 dani` wrote:
On February 14 2013 05:32 Nerchio wrote:
I believe you guys, Hero practices more so he deserved to win, we are on team liquid and all of you are biased. I am not gonna argue with you since opinions of spectators mean nothing to me as you have no idea about the game and mind games during the match. If you think having different opinion than the mass is not being grown up then it's up to you, i prefer to be a child forever.

It's not about having different opinions, it's about your raging after many of your losses which makes you look bad. Seriously just quit the BM, people respect you as a player and respect your opinion. This is not about your opinion, and you know it. It's about you discrediting your opponent in pretty much every game you lose.

It is, cause my opinion is that perfectly executed immortal all in is unstoppable and it's been proved a lot of times. If we consider that in addition to sub-par map pool, we can say it was a cheap win. I didn't say Hero is bad either, I just said he did the strategy that would bring him easy win and there was not much i could do.


It wasn't an immortal all-in. He took a third base and continued his upgrades.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 13 2013 20:43 GMT
#112
It was a timing attack after having his third delayed, which he took + continued upgrades. He just had to do some damage which is pretty easy if half your army is completely out of position + on drop tech that doesn't help at all defending an attack...
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
FollowKronborg
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland21 Posts
February 13 2013 20:43 GMT
#113
Has your LoL account been banned again and you cant think of anything better to do with your time than to troll people here? Is that what is going on?
metroid composite
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada231 Posts
February 13 2013 20:44 GMT
#114
On February 14 2013 05:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:28 Nerchio wrote:
On February 14 2013 05:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I find myself trying to respect Nerchio for his playstyle and how successful he is, but things like this just turn me off. How was that a "cheap win" when HerO completely dissected his play and won it "fairly"? Maybe because I'm not a progamer I won't understand the frustration of losing out on two qualifiers (MLG and now IPL) and on FC, but really, be a bit more mannered.

I didn't really care about advancing to both of these tours. The answer is simple and i find it funny to read all these comments that don't touch me that much. Tournaments are really bad about setting maps for certain rounds. we played on entombed and cloud kingdom which are 2 protoss favoured maps and he got outclassed on balanced map which is daybreak. What's more he used immortal all in in the last game, that's not neccessarily his problem because i agree win is a win but for me it's a cheap win.


Considering the build used on Daybreak, that's pretty funny. Also he took a third base behind this and continued upgrades. He didn't all in, it was a timing attack and guess what's not gonna help you against it - drops.
He won the game because he was smarter and you misread the game + didn't scout the attack until it was at your third, basically feeding him half your army. GGWP


He didn't scout, that's true, but he was gearing up for an attack so it's not like he was caught droning without any army; he actually had a pretty large army, which was admittedly lucky given the lack of scouting.

Are you suggesting things would have gone significantly different with scouting? What would he have done differently? Cancel drop research so that he could make four more roaches?
Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 13 2013 20:46 GMT
#115
On February 14 2013 05:44 metroid composite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 14 2013 05:28 Nerchio wrote:
On February 14 2013 05:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I find myself trying to respect Nerchio for his playstyle and how successful he is, but things like this just turn me off. How was that a "cheap win" when HerO completely dissected his play and won it "fairly"? Maybe because I'm not a progamer I won't understand the frustration of losing out on two qualifiers (MLG and now IPL) and on FC, but really, be a bit more mannered.

I didn't really care about advancing to both of these tours. The answer is simple and i find it funny to read all these comments that don't touch me that much. Tournaments are really bad about setting maps for certain rounds. we played on entombed and cloud kingdom which are 2 protoss favoured maps and he got outclassed on balanced map which is daybreak. What's more he used immortal all in in the last game, that's not neccessarily his problem because i agree win is a win but for me it's a cheap win.


Considering the build used on Daybreak, that's pretty funny. Also he took a third base behind this and continued upgrades. He didn't all in, it was a timing attack and guess what's not gonna help you against it - drops.
He won the game because he was smarter and you misread the game + didn't scout the attack until it was at your third, basically feeding him half your army. GGWP


He didn't scout, that's true, but he was gearing up for an attack so it's not like he was caught droning without any army; he actually had a pretty large army, which was admittedly lucky given the lack of scouting.

Are you suggesting things would have gone significantly different with scouting? What would he have done differently? Cancel drop research so that he could make four more roaches?


Not get drop tech if the third is that late but use the infestation pit he had finished.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
February 13 2013 20:46 GMT
#116
On February 14 2013 05:44 metroid composite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 14 2013 05:28 Nerchio wrote:
On February 14 2013 05:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I find myself trying to respect Nerchio for his playstyle and how successful he is, but things like this just turn me off. How was that a "cheap win" when HerO completely dissected his play and won it "fairly"? Maybe because I'm not a progamer I won't understand the frustration of losing out on two qualifiers (MLG and now IPL) and on FC, but really, be a bit more mannered.

I didn't really care about advancing to both of these tours. The answer is simple and i find it funny to read all these comments that don't touch me that much. Tournaments are really bad about setting maps for certain rounds. we played on entombed and cloud kingdom which are 2 protoss favoured maps and he got outclassed on balanced map which is daybreak. What's more he used immortal all in in the last game, that's not neccessarily his problem because i agree win is a win but for me it's a cheap win.


Considering the build used on Daybreak, that's pretty funny. Also he took a third base behind this and continued upgrades. He didn't all in, it was a timing attack and guess what's not gonna help you against it - drops.
He won the game because he was smarter and you misread the game + didn't scout the attack until it was at your third, basically feeding him half your army. GGWP


He didn't scout, that's true, but he was gearing up for an attack so it's not like he was caught droning without any army; he actually had a pretty large army, which was admittedly lucky given the lack of scouting.

Are you suggesting things would have gone significantly different with scouting? What would he have done differently? Cancel drop research so that he could make four more roaches?

You are a boss.
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 20:48:27
February 13 2013 20:47 GMT
#117
HyuN defeats Stephano 2-1!
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 20:48:23
February 13 2013 20:48 GMT
#118
do my eyes deceive me? did puma really beat hack? HES BACK
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 13 2013 20:48 GMT
#119
Holy shit HerO's upgrades
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
pwnz0r
Profile Joined August 2010
United States123 Posts
February 13 2013 20:48 GMT
#120
Stephano loses 2-1 to Hyun
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