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dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
January 07 2013 13:03 GMT
#721
hoped for a worker rush
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 07 2013 13:03 GMT
#722
Game isn't useless because of the chance of a Happy/Trap/Shine 3 way tie
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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
January 07 2013 13:03 GMT
#723
you remember the times when code a casters where failing every day in the up and downs?

nowadays khaldor is a boss in these situations lol
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
January 07 2013 13:03 GMT
#724
I don't listen when they talk about the permutations for these groups. I prefer not to think. It's probably not as confusing as i suspect it is, but it's confusing enough that i switch off instantly and start browsing the interwebs.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 13:07:19
January 07 2013 13:04 GMT
#725
but either happy and dream won against trap, so i think this game is useless.
edit: im talking about trap chances to go to wild cards, as i see it is 0%
JD is BONJWA!
jianming
Profile Joined November 2011
149 Posts
January 07 2013 13:04 GMT
#726
On January 07 2013 21:59 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 21:58 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
So if Squirtle wins Trap then Shine is through whatever happens Dream vs Happy?


No, it just means he has a chance if he can beat Teaja in the final match. If he and Trap both lose, winner of Dream/Happy gets third.


Are you sure about that? I think worst case scenario for Shine is a 3 way tie.

The worst score Shine can have is 2-3. The best score Dream, Trap and Happy can have is 2-3.

If Squirtle beats Trap and Taeja beats Shine, then Trap is 1-4 (out) and Shine is 2-3.

The winner of Dream vs Happy will also be 2-3. But Shine beat both of them, so he wins the tiebreak.


If Trap beats Squirtle, and Shine loses, then we will have a 3 way tie between Trap, Shine and winner of Happy/Dream.

And if Shine wins then he's through regardless.
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 13:05:42
January 07 2013 13:04 GMT
#727
Was that a 12.5% TvT win rate for Dream?

EDIT: I'm so glad my boy (Taeja) already made it through. All this fuckin' theoretical tie-breaker scenario math is too much for me. Went through enough of it last night waiting for MC to get out of his group (which he thankfully did!).
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 13:04:56
January 07 2013 13:04 GMT
#728
I think Dream/Trap/Shine 3 way is also possible.
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Necrome
Profile Joined November 2010
12 Posts
January 07 2013 13:05 GMT
#729
lost all my respect for Squirtle...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 07 2013 13:06 GMT
#730
On January 07 2013 22:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Up & Down Matches Group B
Happy (1-3) vs Dream (1-3)
Map: Antiga Shipyard

0:00
Happy spawns in the bottom left
Dream spawns in the top right

1:40
gas first for Happy
rax first for Dream

2:00
rax for Happy

3:00
factory for Happy
tech lab for Happy
double gas for Dream

4:00
I didnt realize but the factory and rax were proxied in Happy's 3rd
proxy starport on the tech lab in Happy's 3rd
CC for Dream inside his main
Factory for Dream

5:00
banshee started for Happy
2nd gas for Happy
CC for Happy on the low ground
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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
January 07 2013 13:06 GMT
#731
On January 07 2013 22:05 Necrome wrote:
lost all my respect for Squirtle...


I got this one guys

Can you please quantify how much respect was actually lost?
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 13:16:31
January 07 2013 13:07 GMT
#732
On January 07 2013 22:04 GWdeathscythe wrote:
but either happy and dream won against trap, so i think this game is useless.

Both happy and dream beat trap.
IF Trap wins and Shine loses:
Trap (2-3) > Shine (2-3) > happy/dream (2-3) > Trap.... [3 way tie]

edit
if Shine wins:
Squirtle (4-2 OR 3-2) > Shine (3-2) [2nd and 3rd place respectively]

edit2:
if Trap loses:
Shine (3-2 or 2-3) > Happy (2-3) [3rd and 4th place respectively]
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 07 2013 13:08 GMT
#733
On January 07 2013 22:04 jianming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 21:59 stuchiu wrote:
On January 07 2013 21:58 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
So if Squirtle wins Trap then Shine is through whatever happens Dream vs Happy?


No, it just means he has a chance if he can beat Teaja in the final match. If he and Trap both lose, winner of Dream/Happy gets third.


Are you sure about that? I think worst case scenario for Shine is a 3 way tie.

The worst score Shine can have is 2-3. The best score Dream, Trap and Happy can have is 2-3.

If Squirtle beats Trap and Taeja beats Shine, then Trap is 1-4 (out) and Shine is 2-3.

The winner of Dream vs Happy will also be 2-3. But Shine beat both of them, so he wins the tiebreak.


If Trap beats Squirtle, and Shine loses, then we will have a 3 way tie between Trap, Shine and winner of Happy/Dream.

And if Shine wins then he's through regardless.


Yeah, pretty sure Shine is through if Trap loses for sure.
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GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
January 07 2013 13:08 GMT
#734
On January 07 2013 22:07 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 22:04 GWdeathscythe wrote:
but either happy and dream won against trap, so i think this game is useless.

Both happy and dream beat trap.
IF trap > shin:
Trap (2-3) > Shine (2-3) > happy/dream (2-3) > Trap....

oh yeah.. i totally forgot about Shine, was considering just Trap, Dream and Happy.
JD is BONJWA!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 13:09:40
January 07 2013 13:09 GMT
#735
I kind of wish they reordered the last games for dramatic effect.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 07 2013 13:09 GMT
#736
On January 07 2013 22:06 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 22:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Up & Down Matches Group B
Happy (1-3) vs Dream (1-3)
Map: Antiga Shipyard

0:00
Happy spawns in the bottom left
Dream spawns in the top right

1:40
gas first for Happy
rax first for Dream

2:00
rax for Happy

3:00
factory for Happy
tech lab for Happy
double gas for Dream

4:00
I didnt realize but the factory and rax were proxied in Happy's 3rd
proxy starport on the tech lab in Happy's 3rd
CC for Dream inside his main
Factory for Dream

5:00
banshee started for Happy
2nd gas for Happy
CC for Happy on the low ground

6:00
hellion for Happy
Starport for Dream
viking for Happy
marines of Dream are waiting inside his mineral line
hellion for Dream
viking flies into the main of Dream and starts kiting marines
viking started for Dream

7:00
3rd gas for Happy
siege tank production started or Happy
viking meets up with Happy's banshee
5 marines were killed by the banshee
Happy backs off
2nd viking for Dream
3rd CC started for Dream inside his mian
Dream lands his 2nd OC in the natural

8:00
Happy is 10 supply ahead
Happy making another viking
Dream making a 3rd viking
siege mode research started for Happy
2 more rax started for Dream
double hellion production started for Dream

9:00
medivac production started for Dream
Dream has the viking lead
they both trade 1 viking
Marines and tanks hitting the CC of Dream from the low ground
Dream has to cancel his 3rd CC
stim research started for Dream
marauder production started for Dream
3rd CC started for Happy

10:00
3rd CC restarted for Dream in a different part of his main
Dream comes out and attacks the small army of Happy with a marine marauder hellion force
reinforcements come in for Happy and clean up the army of Dream
3 more rax for Happy
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Sh1bby
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany711 Posts
January 07 2013 13:10 GMT
#737
On January 07 2013 22:07 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 22:04 GWdeathscythe wrote:
but either happy and dream won against trap, so i think this game is useless.

Both happy and dream beat trap.
IF trap > shin:
Trap (2-3) > Shine (2-3) > happy/dream (2-3) > Trap....

Happy & Dream can't be both at 2-3. One will be 2-3 and the other one 1-4...
"People should not ruminate about the past. Just do your best here and now." [Aya Kito]
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
January 07 2013 13:11 GMT
#738
On January 07 2013 22:10 Sh1bby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 22:07 y0su wrote:
On January 07 2013 22:04 GWdeathscythe wrote:
but either happy and dream won against trap, so i think this game is useless.

Both happy and dream beat trap.
IF trap > shin:
Trap (2-3) > Shine (2-3) > happy/dream (2-3) > Trap....

Happy & Dream can't be both at 2-3. One will be 2-3 and the other one 1-4...


He just means one of the two, given that they have beaten the same opponents and have been beaten by the same opponents. So they are interchangeable.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
January 07 2013 13:11 GMT
#739
Dream's having a nightmare right now, I think.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 07 2013 13:13 GMT
#740
On January 07 2013 22:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 22:06 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 07 2013 22:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Up & Down Matches Group B
Happy (1-3) vs Dream (1-3)
Map: Antiga Shipyard

0:00
Happy spawns in the bottom left
Dream spawns in the top right

1:40
gas first for Happy
rax first for Dream

2:00
rax for Happy

3:00
factory for Happy
tech lab for Happy
double gas for Dream

4:00
I didnt realize but the factory and rax were proxied in Happy's 3rd
proxy starport on the tech lab in Happy's 3rd
CC for Dream inside his main
Factory for Dream

5:00
banshee started for Happy
2nd gas for Happy
CC for Happy on the low ground

6:00
hellion for Happy
Starport for Dream
viking for Happy
marines of Dream are waiting inside his mineral line
hellion for Dream
viking flies into the main of Dream and starts kiting marines
viking started for Dream

7:00
3rd gas for Happy
siege tank production started or Happy
viking meets up with Happy's banshee
5 marines were killed by the banshee
Happy backs off
2nd viking for Dream
3rd CC started for Dream inside his mian
Dream lands his 2nd OC in the natural

8:00
Happy is 10 supply ahead
Happy making another viking
Dream making a 3rd viking
siege mode research started for Happy
2 more rax started for Dream
double hellion production started for Dream

9:00
medivac production started for Dream
Dream has the viking lead
they both trade 1 viking
Marines and tanks hitting the CC of Dream from the low ground
Dream has to cancel his 3rd CC
stim research started for Dream
marauder production started for Dream
3rd CC started for Happy

10:00
3rd CC restarted for Dream in a different part of his main
Dream comes out and attacks the small army of Happy with a marine marauder hellion force
reinforcements come in for Happy and clean up the army of Dream
3 more rax for Happy

11:00
double ebay started for Dream in range of Happy's banshee
both ebays have to be canceled
banshee is up to 10 kills
marine tank force of Happy pushing towards the main of Dream

12:00
Happy sieges up the natural of Dream
stim research and combat shields started for Happy
1-1 started for Happy
Dream lands some marines on the low ground and pulls all his scvs to clean up the force of Happy
15 workers have been killed

13:00
armory started for Happy
Happy is 20 workers ahead
2nd factory started for Happy
Dream finally lands his 3rd base
double ebay started for Dream
sensor towers going up for Happy
Happy moves home as he sees Dream trying to move out

14:00
Dream throws away his hellions
1-1 started for Dream
double medivac production started for Happy
Happy is holding the watchtower
4th CC started for Happy at the center base location
2-2 started for Happy

15:00
siege mode research started for Dream
siege tank production started for Dream
2nd factory started for Dream
Dream comes out to fight Happy
Happy sieges up
Dream's army is crushed
Dream ggs
Dream falls to 1-4 and is eliminated
Happy improves to 2-3!
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