• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:24
CET 17:24
KST 01:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC211[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Greetings.. No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery BW General Discussion Korean players' earnings Hit New All-Time High! SOOP Hosts SC1 & SC2 Event Tournament: Kevin Scrim BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL23] Ro16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET Bisu's Team vs Shuttle's Team 2026-11-14
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Simple Questions, Simple Answers Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10751 users

[SPL] EG-TL vs. Team 8 R1 - Page 18

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 16 17 18 19 20 102 Next
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 04:31:21
December 25 2012 04:30 GMT
#341
On December 25 2012 13:29 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 13:27 StarStruck wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:24 blade55555 wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:23 StarStruck wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:21 SHOOG wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:20 decado90 wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:19 SHOOG wrote:
Man, I just want a foreigner win in Proleague. I feel like the crowd laughs at the fact that EG-TL keeps sending Thorzain out after they see games like this.



You're gonna have to wait for Stephano + idra.


I guess so :/


Oh no, I don't think Greg is anywhere in the proper condition. Might be months until he's ready, ready. Stephano on the other hand. Throw him right into the lion's den.


I disagree he has beaten top koreans all the time and he played extremely well at BWC. I can see him winning games in his current condition and he always seems to play so much better vs koreans, at least that's how it feels like anyway.


That was BWC and he had a good day. Did you see his games the other day against Stork of all people? It was bad. From what I've seen he's nowhere near in top form. When he first went to Korea it took over a year and a half to finally get it. He's one of those guys who really has to pick up the pace if he wants to be productive.


You mean in the MLG MVP thing that was online? That shouldn't be taken into account at all? I haven't seen stork vs idra other then that tournament which is imo an awful way to say he isn't ready.

plus...Mvp not very good right now (see Blizzard Cup). I know it was just one day and he doesnt do well playing a lot of games in a row, but he only won 1 map....
#TheOneTrueDong
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
December 25 2012 04:31 GMT
#342
On December 25 2012 13:28 aRyuujin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 13:27 Sinensis wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:25 TommyP wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:23 Sinensis wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:22 TommyP wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:21 Scarecrow wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:20 Dr.Sin wrote:
How did Thorzain get rolled like this o_O

He's just an inferior player who prepared less. It's hardly surprising.

i doubt he prepared less.


Why do you doubt that? The game I saw made it look like Thorzain prepared less.

i doubt it because ThorZaIN is in Korea for one reason, to play Proleague. He has nothing else to do there. BaBy is just the better player. No matter how much you prepare, if someone is just better than you, they can still beat you.


Thorzain has at least 1 year of experience more than Baby with Sc2...


BaBy has years more of experience with starcraft than ThorZain, and is one of the most talented rts players in korea


Thanks for the facts but Thorzain cheesed and lost horribly. I did not see any indication of rigorous preparation.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 25 2012 04:31 GMT
#343
On December 25 2012 13:30 jnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 13:27 Sinensis wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:25 TommyP wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:23 Sinensis wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:22 TommyP wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:21 Scarecrow wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:20 Dr.Sin wrote:
How did Thorzain get rolled like this o_O

He's just an inferior player who prepared less. It's hardly surprising.

i doubt he prepared less.


Why do you doubt that? The game I saw made it look like Thorzain prepared less.

i doubt it because ThorZaIN is in Korea for one reason, to play Proleague. He has nothing else to do there. BaBy is just the better player. No matter how much you prepare, if someone is just better than you, they can still beat you.


Thorzain has at least 1 year of experience more than Baby with Sc2...

Yeah but BaBy has been playing sc for 5 years now and it's not like you need years of experience to scout no rax in base and prepare for the proxy.


BaBy is a genius. You know how old he started his professional career? He's a child prodigy for a reason.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 25 2012 04:31 GMT
#344
On December 25 2012 13:30 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 13:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:27 sM.Zik wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
This is my first time watching JD play SC2. Does he still have his old level of micro on him?


Yeah but there is no more muta stack micro


Good enough, now there's broodlord micro and other tricks to make up for the lack of muta stack


Don't worry. JD feels just like in the old days. Being the only one winning consistently in Proleague for his team.


Oh. THAT good ^_^
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
December 25 2012 04:31 GMT
#345
On December 25 2012 13:28 BilltownRunner wrote:
Hey guys, Jaedong has been streaming lately, so make sure you call him awful and under prepared too.


The difference is that Jaedong wins anyway. Thorzain is showing he isn't even remotely ready for proleague, and also streams. Thorzain isn't like Incontrol where he's just a big billboard and serves no competitive purpose. Thorzain is a player. He needs to perform well.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 25 2012 04:31 GMT
#346
Come on Jaedong!!!
#TheOneTrueDong
AKRW
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
80 Posts
December 25 2012 04:32 GMT
#347
On December 25 2012 13:29 Vanadium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 13:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Honest question. Have any of Thorzain's games actually been close?

He looked pretty good in Arkanoid against a zerg (don't remember who), but then a ling run-by destroyed him.


In what way did he look good? I think he played terribly. His push was destroyed at the same time he got counterattacked.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
December 25 2012 04:32 GMT
#348
Speed = cure right?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51730 Posts
December 25 2012 04:32 GMT
#349
On December 25 2012 13:30 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 13:28 sM.Zik wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:27 TommyP wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:26 Havik_ wrote:
Guess no more Spoon Terran in ProLeague for a while. They need to get Stephano over there!!

Stephano hasnt been playing that well lately. He will help, but he wont win nearly as often as Jaedong or hero.


Didnt he just win against MVP, MKP and another good terran the past week?



Mvp in an online tourney, MMA who hasn't caught up to his past level, and an MKP who's TvZ is in a free fall as he is trying to find his identity.

That said, he's still probably favored against most Terrans in the world besides Gumiho, Taeja, and a few Kespas.


he beat Mvp in WCG.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
hyperdemented
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria372 Posts
December 25 2012 04:32 GMT
#350
On December 25 2012 13:27 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 13:26 Havik_ wrote:
Guess no more Spoon Terran in ProLeague for a while. They need to get Stephano over there!!

Stephano hasnt been playing that well lately. He will help, but he wont win nearly as often as Jaedong or hero.


hes playing well lately imho, he just needs to step up his zvz (which truthfully hasnt been very amazing since quite some time now)
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 25 2012 04:33 GMT
#351
On December 25 2012 13:32 StorrZerg wrote:
Speed = cure right?

yea all of team 8 changed their name...
#TheOneTrueDong
freakhill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Japan463 Posts
December 25 2012 04:33 GMT
#352
Bring in stephano already >_>
moo ForGG, Dragon, MVP, Gumiho, DRG, PartinG, Life]0[!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
December 25 2012 04:33 GMT
#353
On December 25 2012 13:32 StorrZerg wrote:
Speed = cure right?

Yes. They are using all the BW IDs in the OP
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 25 2012 04:33 GMT
#354
Gogo Jaedong!!!!!!
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
December 25 2012 04:33 GMT
#355
On December 25 2012 13:32 AKRW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 13:29 Vanadium wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Honest question. Have any of Thorzain's games actually been close?

He looked pretty good in Arkanoid against a zerg (don't remember who), but then a ling run-by destroyed him.


In what way did he look good? I think he played terribly. His push was destroyed at the same time he got counterattacked.


that was a horrible game
he sat in themiddle doing nothing for ages
then he died
can i get my estro logo back pls
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
December 25 2012 04:33 GMT
#356
On December 25 2012 13:32 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 13:30 decado90 wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:28 sM.Zik wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:27 TommyP wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:26 Havik_ wrote:
Guess no more Spoon Terran in ProLeague for a while. They need to get Stephano over there!!

Stephano hasnt been playing that well lately. He will help, but he wont win nearly as often as Jaedong or hero.


Didnt he just win against MVP, MKP and another good terran the past week?



Mvp in an online tourney, MMA who hasn't caught up to his past level, and an MKP who's TvZ is in a free fall as he is trying to find his identity.

That said, he's still probably favored against most Terrans in the world besides Gumiho, Taeja, and a few Kespas.


he beat Mvp in WCG.

Huh?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
ThomasR
Profile Joined January 2012
764 Posts
December 25 2012 04:33 GMT
#357
lmfao "antiga not a bad map for zerg at all"

these casters are fucking clueless
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 04:34:10
December 25 2012 04:33 GMT
#358
On December 25 2012 13:31 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 13:28 BilltownRunner wrote:
Hey guys, Jaedong has been streaming lately, so make sure you call him awful and under prepared too.


The difference is that Jaedong wins anyway. Thorzain is showing he isn't even remotely ready for proleague, and also streams. Thorzain isn't like Incontrol where he's just a big billboard and serves no competitive purpose. Thorzain is a player. He needs to perform well.

I'm pretty sure all of the Koreans TL and EG have acquired are the only ones winning, as in JD, Taeja, HerO etc. Thorzain and co. just can't stand up to the task, let alone idra, incontrol, etc
The opinions expressed by our users do not reflect the official position of TeamLiquid.net or its staff.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51730 Posts
December 25 2012 04:33 GMT
#359
On December 25 2012 13:32 StorrZerg wrote:
Speed = cure right?


yes, speed is also a player who Jaedong used to give the highest of praises whenever he won a TvZ in the 10-11 season
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
December 25 2012 04:33 GMT
#360
On December 25 2012 13:28 sM.Zik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 13:27 TommyP wrote:
On December 25 2012 13:26 Havik_ wrote:
Guess no more Spoon Terran in ProLeague for a while. They need to get Stephano over there!!

Stephano hasnt been playing that well lately. He will help, but he wont win nearly as often as Jaedong or hero.


Didnt he just win against MVP, MKP and another good terran the past week?

Everyone can beat Mvp and MKP these days. He'll probably get own by another zerg in proleague
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
Prev 1 16 17 18 19 20 102 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
20:00
WardiTV Not-Summer Championshi
herO vs SHINLIVE!
Clem vs TBD
WardiTV1597
ComeBackTV 1123
IntoTheiNu 792
TaKeTV 450
IndyStarCraft 268
Rex124
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 268
Rex 124
ProTech95
BRAT_OK 47
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6150
Rain 1388
Mini 1147
BeSt 687
Light 625
Shuttle 612
Soulkey 245
hero 205
ggaemo 193
Zeus 171
[ Show more ]
firebathero 166
ZerO 158
Mind 78
Sea.KH 63
Killer 44
sorry 44
Barracks 34
JYJ 26
zelot 17
Rock 16
Sacsri 16
Hm[arnc] 14
scan(afreeca) 14
Aegong 11
910 11
soO 11
yabsab 9
Dota 2
qojqva3234
monkeys_forever322
Counter-Strike
jkaem149
byalli0
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor417
Other Games
FrodaN6127
singsing2300
Liquid`RaSZi1433
B2W.Neo672
Beastyqt606
syndereN233
KnowMe189
CosmosSc2 26
ZerO(Twitch)22
Railgan9
fpsfer 2
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV907
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 26
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 36
• Azhi_Dahaki27
• Michael_bg 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Shiphtur252
Upcoming Events
IPSL
36m
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
3h 36m
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
SOOP
17h 36m
soO vs FanTaSy
WardiTV Weekly
19h 36m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
KCM Race Survival
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
eOnzErG vs StRyKeR
Cross vs JDConan
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
IEM Kraków 2027
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.