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On December 25 2012 13:29 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 13:27 StarStruck wrote:On December 25 2012 13:24 blade55555 wrote:On December 25 2012 13:23 StarStruck wrote:On December 25 2012 13:21 SHOOG wrote:On December 25 2012 13:20 decado90 wrote:On December 25 2012 13:19 SHOOG wrote: Man, I just want a foreigner win in Proleague. I feel like the crowd laughs at the fact that EG-TL keeps sending Thorzain out after they see games like this. You're gonna have to wait for Stephano + idra. I guess so :/ Oh no, I don't think Greg is anywhere in the proper condition. Might be months until he's ready, ready. Stephano on the other hand. Throw him right into the lion's den. I disagree he has beaten top koreans all the time and he played extremely well at BWC. I can see him winning games in his current condition and he always seems to play so much better vs koreans, at least that's how it feels like anyway. That was BWC and he had a good day. Did you see his games the other day against Stork of all people? It was bad. From what I've seen he's nowhere near in top form. When he first went to Korea it took over a year and a half to finally get it. He's one of those guys who really has to pick up the pace if he wants to be productive. You mean in the MLG MVP thing that was online? That shouldn't be taken into account at all? I haven't seen stork vs idra other then that tournament which is imo an awful way to say he isn't ready. plus...Mvp not very good right now (see Blizzard Cup). I know it was just one day and he doesnt do well playing a lot of games in a row, but he only won 1 map....
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On December 25 2012 13:28 aRyuujin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 13:27 Sinensis wrote:On December 25 2012 13:25 TommyP wrote:On December 25 2012 13:23 Sinensis wrote:On December 25 2012 13:22 TommyP wrote:On December 25 2012 13:21 Scarecrow wrote:On December 25 2012 13:20 Dr.Sin wrote: How did Thorzain get rolled like this o_O He's just an inferior player who prepared less. It's hardly surprising. i doubt he prepared less. Why do you doubt that? The game I saw made it look like Thorzain prepared less. i doubt it because ThorZaIN is in Korea for one reason, to play Proleague. He has nothing else to do there. BaBy is just the better player. No matter how much you prepare, if someone is just better than you, they can still beat you. Thorzain has at least 1 year of experience more than Baby with Sc2... BaBy has years more of experience with starcraft than ThorZain, and is one of the most talented rts players in korea
Thanks for the facts but Thorzain cheesed and lost horribly. I did not see any indication of rigorous preparation.
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On December 25 2012 13:30 jnd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 13:27 Sinensis wrote:On December 25 2012 13:25 TommyP wrote:On December 25 2012 13:23 Sinensis wrote:On December 25 2012 13:22 TommyP wrote:On December 25 2012 13:21 Scarecrow wrote:On December 25 2012 13:20 Dr.Sin wrote: How did Thorzain get rolled like this o_O He's just an inferior player who prepared less. It's hardly surprising. i doubt he prepared less. Why do you doubt that? The game I saw made it look like Thorzain prepared less. i doubt it because ThorZaIN is in Korea for one reason, to play Proleague. He has nothing else to do there. BaBy is just the better player. No matter how much you prepare, if someone is just better than you, they can still beat you. Thorzain has at least 1 year of experience more than Baby with Sc2... Yeah but BaBy has been playing sc for 5 years now and it's not like you need years of experience to scout no rax in base and prepare for the proxy.
BaBy is a genius. You know how old he started his professional career? He's a child prodigy for a reason.
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On December 25 2012 13:30 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 13:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On December 25 2012 13:27 sM.Zik wrote:On December 25 2012 13:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: This is my first time watching JD play SC2. Does he still have his old level of micro on him? Yeah but there is no more muta stack micro  Good enough, now there's broodlord micro and other tricks to make up for the lack of muta stack  Don't worry. JD feels just like in the old days. Being the only one winning consistently in Proleague for his team.
Oh. THAT good ^_^
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On December 25 2012 13:28 BilltownRunner wrote: Hey guys, Jaedong has been streaming lately, so make sure you call him awful and under prepared too.
The difference is that Jaedong wins anyway. Thorzain is showing he isn't even remotely ready for proleague, and also streams. Thorzain isn't like Incontrol where he's just a big billboard and serves no competitive purpose. Thorzain is a player. He needs to perform well.
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On December 25 2012 13:29 Vanadium wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 13:27 Shellshock1122 wrote: Honest question. Have any of Thorzain's games actually been close? He looked pretty good in Arkanoid against a zerg (don't remember who), but then a ling run-by destroyed him.
In what way did he look good? I think he played terribly. His push was destroyed at the same time he got counterattacked.
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On December 25 2012 13:30 decado90 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 13:28 sM.Zik wrote:On December 25 2012 13:27 TommyP wrote:On December 25 2012 13:26 Havik_ wrote: Guess no more Spoon Terran in ProLeague for a while. They need to get Stephano over there!! Stephano hasnt been playing that well lately. He will help, but he wont win nearly as often as Jaedong or hero. Didnt he just win against MVP, MKP and another good terran the past week? Mvp in an online tourney, MMA who hasn't caught up to his past level, and an MKP who's TvZ is in a free fall as he is trying to find his identity. That said, he's still probably favored against most Terrans in the world besides Gumiho, Taeja, and a few Kespas.
he beat Mvp in WCG.
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On December 25 2012 13:27 TommyP wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 13:26 Havik_ wrote: Guess no more Spoon Terran in ProLeague for a while. They need to get Stephano over there!! Stephano hasnt been playing that well lately. He will help, but he wont win nearly as often as Jaedong or hero.
hes playing well lately imho, he just needs to step up his zvz (which truthfully hasnt been very amazing since quite some time now)
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On December 25 2012 13:32 StorrZerg wrote: Speed = cure right? yea all of team 8 changed their name...
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Bring in stephano already >_>
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On December 25 2012 13:32 StorrZerg wrote: Speed = cure right? Yes. They are using all the BW IDs in the OP
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On December 25 2012 13:32 AKRW wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 13:29 Vanadium wrote:On December 25 2012 13:27 Shellshock1122 wrote: Honest question. Have any of Thorzain's games actually been close? He looked pretty good in Arkanoid against a zerg (don't remember who), but then a ling run-by destroyed him. In what way did he look good? I think he played terribly. His push was destroyed at the same time he got counterattacked.
that was a horrible game he sat in themiddle doing nothing for ages then he died
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On December 25 2012 13:32 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 13:30 decado90 wrote:On December 25 2012 13:28 sM.Zik wrote:On December 25 2012 13:27 TommyP wrote:On December 25 2012 13:26 Havik_ wrote: Guess no more Spoon Terran in ProLeague for a while. They need to get Stephano over there!! Stephano hasnt been playing that well lately. He will help, but he wont win nearly as often as Jaedong or hero. Didnt he just win against MVP, MKP and another good terran the past week? Mvp in an online tourney, MMA who hasn't caught up to his past level, and an MKP who's TvZ is in a free fall as he is trying to find his identity. That said, he's still probably favored against most Terrans in the world besides Gumiho, Taeja, and a few Kespas. he beat Mvp in WCG. Huh?
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lmfao "antiga not a bad map for zerg at all"
these casters are fucking clueless
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On December 25 2012 13:31 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 13:28 BilltownRunner wrote: Hey guys, Jaedong has been streaming lately, so make sure you call him awful and under prepared too. The difference is that Jaedong wins anyway. Thorzain is showing he isn't even remotely ready for proleague, and also streams. Thorzain isn't like Incontrol where he's just a big billboard and serves no competitive purpose. Thorzain is a player. He needs to perform well. I'm pretty sure all of the Koreans TL and EG have acquired are the only ones winning, as in JD, Taeja, HerO etc. Thorzain and co. just can't stand up to the task, let alone idra, incontrol, etc
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On December 25 2012 13:32 StorrZerg wrote: Speed = cure right?
yes, speed is also a player who Jaedong used to give the highest of praises whenever he won a TvZ in the 10-11 season
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On December 25 2012 13:28 sM.Zik wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 13:27 TommyP wrote:On December 25 2012 13:26 Havik_ wrote: Guess no more Spoon Terran in ProLeague for a while. They need to get Stephano over there!! Stephano hasnt been playing that well lately. He will help, but he wont win nearly as often as Jaedong or hero. Didnt he just win against MVP, MKP and another good terran the past week? Everyone can beat Mvp and MKP these days. He'll probably get own by another zerg in proleague
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