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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
November 13 2012 13:38 GMT
#1881
On November 13 2012 22:17 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 22:05 opterown wrote:
On November 13 2012 22:02 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 13 2012 22:02 opterown wrote:
On November 13 2012 22:00 Hall0wed wrote:
On November 13 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:
On November 13 2012 21:50 Hall0wed wrote:
Well that blows for Creator, has to go up against Zerg city in WCS and then Hyun right after in RO8. He should be able to wreck the Zergs at WCS if he plays his best but then he has to deal with Hyun after exhausting himself and his builds. =/

well, he probably won't need his best to take out the zergs at WCS until he hits stephano, roro or curious (and that would only be RO4 at earliest with how the brackets are set up). he'll probably get plenty of practice against zerg


Well I really hope he doesn't fail against any of those foreigners seeing as he is far better than them, thats all I'm asking. Hope he can go ham on the practice these next few days.

i've heard creator is the hardest working player on prime, i hope he can string together some nice builds!


Who told you that, MKP? Because according to MKP everyone is the hardest working player on prime xD

haha, masterbreti lol

betcha mkp is biggest slacker on prime


Hey, looking that good takes time and work. He's not slacking, he's busy being the fashionable heart of the best team on the planet.

Then again, I could be slightly biased...


The majority of the live report threads every single day might be slightly biased.
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
November 13 2012 13:39 GMT
#1882
MKP vs Ryung in a bo5... potential for epic series if they are both on form that day!
stuff & things
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 13 2012 13:40 GMT
#1883
just gonna put out again; i'll most likely not do tomorrow's thread (or the day after) while i prepare to cover WCS global, hope someone can cover? :D
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
November 13 2012 13:41 GMT
#1884
On November 13 2012 21:57 FakeDeath wrote:
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On November 13 2012 21:53 phyre112 wrote:
On November 13 2012 21:52 opterown wrote:
On November 13 2012 21:50 FakeDeath wrote:
Hyun looks to be strongest against P.

He has slained Brown,Crank,Tear,Squirtle,Grubby,Parting in Bo9.

I think Hyun will beat Creator.

i would say all of them are worse PvZ than creator (squirtle a bit debatable, but he's not looking good of late)


absolutely no debate there, Creator is the best PvZ player in the game atm, but the point of that record is that Hyun's not going to go and roll over; if anyone's going to put up a fight against immortal sentry....


By.Sun says hellooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

So is Creator the new flavor of the month?

Best PvZ...................
2012:
First it was MC,
Then it was Squirtle.
Then it was Seed.
Then it was By.Sun.
Then it was Parting(SoulTrain Build)

Now it is Creator?? =.=

Currently IMO,the best PvZ player is By.Sun.


You can call him Rain like everyone else
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 13 2012 13:45 GMT
#1885
On November 13 2012 22:40 opterown wrote:
just gonna put out again; i'll most likely not do tomorrow's thread (or the day after) while i prepare to cover WCS global, hope someone can cover? :D

You're so lucky with your timezones for WCS... -.- Fucking Europe, I'm already whining in advance.
Korelle
Profile Joined December 2011
143 Posts
November 13 2012 13:46 GMT
#1886
Yoda is one of those players who manages to be both underrated and overrated at the same time.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 14:00:19
November 13 2012 13:56 GMT
#1887
On November 13 2012 21:51 mishimaBeef wrote:
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On November 13 2012 21:47 Kamwah wrote:
On November 13 2012 21:45 opisska wrote:
Is it really so difficult to make some vikings? Why don't the terrans ever prepare? It was like three games today with the same outcome: a terran fight broodlords with tanks even though he scouted the hive.


Vikings do not work against any Zerg that isn't a scrub.

How would a Terran outproduce 4-5hatcheries worth of corrupters and Infestors and the eventual BLs?


in theory viking can outrange zerg anti air and with thor/marine to cover against corruptors and sieged tanks to cover against infestors, the vikings should do okay (helps with pdd/seeker missiles)

but...

i am very disappointed with the terran preparation for brood lords today... seems like everytime brood lords were scouted, it was a surprise that they were that early... *shakes head*

Vikings don't outrange Zerg AA. Fungal has the same range. The sheer number you have to produce combined with raven support in order to take an air battle against 10+ corruptors and 10+ infestors means you will auto-lose if you win the battle and the Zerg proceeds to hold down the U key for a few moments and then attack move in your general direction. This happened literally yesterday. The whole "theory" thing doesn't work because your tanks will be unsieged thanks to brood lords and your ground army will be busy stuck behind an endless wall of broodlings.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 13 2012 13:56 GMT
#1888
On November 13 2012 21:46 Hiea wrote:
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On November 13 2012 21:44 TheBB wrote:
On November 12 2012 22:36 TheBB wrote:
Group B

      MarineKing: 65.45%
      HyuN: 58.51%
      YoDa: 46.05%
      Hack: 29.99%

Just to gloat a bit.

but YoDa was last..!

Those are probabilities of advancing. Doesn't take into account the difference between first and second, third and fourth.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
clocked
Profile Joined November 2012
111 Posts
November 13 2012 14:03 GMT
#1889
I feel MKP can make the finals at least since the rest of the matches will be marathon style matches.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 13 2012 14:09 GMT
#1890
On November 13 2012 22:15 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 22:14 trwkling wrote:
On November 13 2012 22:07 opterown wrote:
banner curse still in effect, two terrans fell today


What banner are you using for tomorrow then??

it's a protoss banner, hrm.

anyone want to make thread?

Why you never want to do it on Wednesdays? I'm always busy on Wednesday mornings. -_-
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 13 2012 14:17 GMT
#1891
On November 13 2012 23:03 clocked wrote:
I feel MKP can make the finals at least since the rest of the matches will be marathon style matches.


Only the semi's and finals will be played at IPL. And they are on separate days. Sure, the players will have less time to prepare but it won't be marathon style.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
November 13 2012 14:23 GMT
#1892
On November 13 2012 22:14 trwkling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 22:07 opterown wrote:
banner curse still in effect, two terrans fell today


What banner are you using for tomorrow then??


Please do not be Polt and PartinG.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
November 13 2012 14:27 GMT
#1893
On November 13 2012 22:56 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 21:51 mishimaBeef wrote:
On November 13 2012 21:47 Kamwah wrote:
On November 13 2012 21:45 opisska wrote:
Is it really so difficult to make some vikings? Why don't the terrans ever prepare? It was like three games today with the same outcome: a terran fight broodlords with tanks even though he scouted the hive.


Vikings do not work against any Zerg that isn't a scrub.

How would a Terran outproduce 4-5hatcheries worth of corrupters and Infestors and the eventual BLs?


in theory viking can outrange zerg anti air and with thor/marine to cover against corruptors and sieged tanks to cover against infestors, the vikings should do okay (helps with pdd/seeker missiles)

but...

i am very disappointed with the terran preparation for brood lords today... seems like everytime brood lords were scouted, it was a surprise that they were that early... *shakes head*

Vikings don't outrange Zerg AA. Fungal has the same range. The sheer number you have to produce combined with raven support in order to take an air battle against 10+ corruptors and 10+ infestors means you will auto-lose if you win the battle and the Zerg proceeds to hold down the U key for a few moments and then attack move in your general direction. This happened literally yesterday. The whole "theory" thing doesn't work because your tanks will be unsieged thanks to brood lords and your ground army will be busy stuck behind an endless wall of broodlings.


true, they don't outrange fungal but lately i have been seeing more and more terrans engaging brood lords with sieged tanks to zone out the fungals

also, in the game you are referring i believe going bc would have been the correct choice if he prepared the tech properly and scouted the ultra transition

i believe that adding bc into the late game TvZ composition is necessary and I don't feel corruptors can easily deal with them unless they are out of position

i expect to see yamato cannons when the meta game develops a little more
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 13 2012 14:32 GMT
#1894
On November 13 2012 22:27 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 22:26 MrCon wrote:
It ended up being a good day, thanks to Artosis. His solo casting was very nice and filled with knowledge, props to him !
And even tho there was a lot of cheese, in retrospect I enjoyed this GSL day :-)

Conjwa regaining his passion ? ^_^

I never lost it ! I whine a lot (I only whine :D) but I'm still here every morning =)
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
November 13 2012 14:42 GMT
#1895
On November 13 2012 23:32 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 22:27 MCDayC wrote:
On November 13 2012 22:26 MrCon wrote:
It ended up being a good day, thanks to Artosis. His solo casting was very nice and filled with knowledge, props to him !
And even tho there was a lot of cheese, in retrospect I enjoyed this GSL day :-)

Conjwa regaining his passion ? ^_^

I never lost it ! I whine a lot (I only whine :D) but I'm still here every morning =)


you were such an anti whiner during gomtvt
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 13 2012 14:47 GMT
#1896
On November 13 2012 23:03 clocked wrote:
I feel MKP can make the finals at least since the rest of the matches will be marathon style matches.


It's only ro4 and finals that are played at IPL, ro8 is played in korea.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 13 2012 14:50 GMT
#1897
Hahahaha! Exactly as I predicted!

The score is 4-0 Ghandi
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
November 13 2012 14:59 GMT
#1898
WOOOOOOOOT MKP! I'm starting to get excited!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 13 2012 15:00 GMT
#1899
On November 13 2012 23:27 mishimaBeef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 22:56 forsooth wrote:
On November 13 2012 21:51 mishimaBeef wrote:
On November 13 2012 21:47 Kamwah wrote:
On November 13 2012 21:45 opisska wrote:
Is it really so difficult to make some vikings? Why don't the terrans ever prepare? It was like three games today with the same outcome: a terran fight broodlords with tanks even though he scouted the hive.


Vikings do not work against any Zerg that isn't a scrub.

How would a Terran outproduce 4-5hatcheries worth of corrupters and Infestors and the eventual BLs?


in theory viking can outrange zerg anti air and with thor/marine to cover against corruptors and sieged tanks to cover against infestors, the vikings should do okay (helps with pdd/seeker missiles)

but...

i am very disappointed with the terran preparation for brood lords today... seems like everytime brood lords were scouted, it was a surprise that they were that early... *shakes head*

Vikings don't outrange Zerg AA. Fungal has the same range. The sheer number you have to produce combined with raven support in order to take an air battle against 10+ corruptors and 10+ infestors means you will auto-lose if you win the battle and the Zerg proceeds to hold down the U key for a few moments and then attack move in your general direction. This happened literally yesterday. The whole "theory" thing doesn't work because your tanks will be unsieged thanks to brood lords and your ground army will be busy stuck behind an endless wall of broodlings.


true, they don't outrange fungal but lately i have been seeing more and more terrans engaging brood lords with sieged tanks to zone out the fungals

also, in the game you are referring i believe going bc would have been the correct choice if he prepared the tech properly and scouted the ultra transition

i believe that adding bc into the late game TvZ composition is necessary and I don't feel corruptors can easily deal with them unless they are out of position

i expect to see yamato cannons when the meta game develops a little more


Mvp has shown how to transition to raven BC planetary comp. Problem is that it is very map dependent. You need maps that you can split to get to 5 bases with narrow attack paths so you can siege behind a choke point. The prime example is metropolis. On most other maps, you cannot turtle well enough once Zerg has BL/infestor to actually transition to BCs.
Solarsail
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom538 Posts
November 13 2012 15:02 GMT
#1900
GOM VOD servers are down?
Everyone left over is a member of the OP race and you have to figure out which one of them is the least OP. - CosmicSpiral
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