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HonorZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France858 Posts
October 22 2012 09:49 GMT
#321
Nice defense from MMA but ... Well... he is still behind probably.
"If you don't drop sweat today you'll drop tears tomorrow"
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 22 2012 09:50 GMT
#322
On October 22 2012 18:47 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 18:46 Jehct wrote:
On October 22 2012 18:44 Yello wrote:
On October 22 2012 18:41 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 22 2012 18:39 JazVM wrote:
On October 22 2012 18:38 InDesconrowl wrote:
After watching this game: Alive doesn't deserve to be in Code S period.


That an understatement even. Seriously, he multitasking is beyond weak.


and then you realize he also made the ro4 before lol


Well, I thought Alive would probably advance from this group. Shows again that up&downs can be really weird. Maybe Alive will get better later today. Or he just fails miserably like in this game.

I love that people make out like he played awful when he micro'd every engagement almost perfectly, came incredibly close to taking the game and ended up barely losing out to the new defensive, harass-focused PvT that every fucking terran is losing to on a P-favoured map.

Did you miss the part where zealots killed orbitals?


And just two zealots BOTH times.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2116 Posts
October 22 2012 09:50 GMT
#323
Wolf MMA fanboy
John 15:13
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 22 2012 09:51 GMT
#324
On October 22 2012 18:50 PiPoGevy wrote:
Wolf MMA fanboy


he actually almost never hypes MMA, none of the casters do actually
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 09:55:17
October 22 2012 09:51 GMT
#325
On October 22 2012 18:47 kju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 18:46 Jehct wrote:
On October 22 2012 18:44 Yello wrote:
On October 22 2012 18:41 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 22 2012 18:39 JazVM wrote:
On October 22 2012 18:38 InDesconrowl wrote:
After watching this game: Alive doesn't deserve to be in Code S period.


That an understatement even. Seriously, he multitasking is beyond weak.


and then you realize he also made the ro4 before lol


Well, I thought Alive would probably advance from this group. Shows again that up&downs can be really weird. Maybe Alive will get better later today. Or he just fails miserably like in this game.

I love that people make out like he played awful when he micro'd every engagement almost perfectly, came incredibly close to taking the game and ended up barely losing out to the new defensive, harass-focused PvT that every fucking terran is losing to on a P-favoured map.

He lost a cc to 2 zealots, nuff said

This mentality is dumb as fuck. Lose incredibly close game > get called terrible for the mistakes that are made. That's not giving enough credit to JYP or Alive, who actually showed really good (but flawed) play.

It's pretty clear that in the lategame he got flustered against the mass-harass/army pressure after feeling that he'd won, so he tried to close the game with what he had (saying 'fuck my eco') and it didn't pay off. That's a bad decision, but not terrible play.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 22 2012 09:51 GMT
#326
On October 22 2012 18:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 18:46 Jehct wrote:
On October 22 2012 18:44 Yello wrote:
On October 22 2012 18:41 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 22 2012 18:39 JazVM wrote:
On October 22 2012 18:38 InDesconrowl wrote:
After watching this game: Alive doesn't deserve to be in Code S period.


That an understatement even. Seriously, he multitasking is beyond weak.


and then you realize he also made the ro4 before lol


Well, I thought Alive would probably advance from this group. Shows again that up&downs can be really weird. Maybe Alive will get better later today. Or he just fails miserably like in this game.

I love that people make out like he played awful when he micro'd every engagement almost perfectly, came incredibly close to taking the game and ended up barely losing out to the new defensive, harass-focused PvT that every fucking terran is losing to on a P-favoured map.



Dude.

He lost 2 Orbitals to 2 zealots.

You cannot explain that away by saying, "oh but he was microing his army." 2 Orbitals to 2 Zealots. thats just unforgivable.



It might look silly that he failed to deal with those 2 zealots but the thing is that TvP is already so very micro intensive and unforgivable as terran with out zealot harassment. So when you add zealots harassment, late game with 4 bases etc, then its easy to get really flustered and stressed and it looks like Alive just sucks. Imo we shouldnt be to hard on Alive.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 22 2012 09:51 GMT
#327
On October 22 2012 18:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 18:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL Season 5 Up & Down Matches
BBoongBBoong vs MMA
Map: Daybreak


0:00
BBoongBBoong spawns in the bottom left
MMA spawns in the top right

1:45
Proxy rax from MMA
drone scouts it before the 2nd rax is built

2:00
Hatch first from BBoongBBoong
Pool started for BBoongBBoong

3:00
gas for B4
Bunker started in B4's natural
drones are pulled to defend
building scv is killed

4:00
ling production begins for B4
CC started on the low grond for MMA
MMA floating his rax back to his main
3rd CC started in the natural for MMA

5:00
a bunch of lings get into MMA's natural
MMA isnt walled off so lings just run in
MMA pulls scvs from his main to defend

6:00
MMA is able to hold it off with lings and marines -- 6 scvs were killed
3rd base started for B4
ling speed finishes for B4
Factory on the way for MMA

7:00
double ebay started for MMA
tech lab started for MMA on his rax
reactor started on MMA's factory
1-1 started for MMA

8:00
Macro hatch started for B4
reactored hellion production started for MMA
stim started for MMA
starport started for MMA
double evo chamber started for B4

9:00
B4 goes up to 6 gas
reactored medivac production begins
mma stops at 4 hellions
3 more rax added on
1-1 started for B4
baneling nest started for B4
Lair started for B4

10:00
MMA lands his 3rd OC
armory finishing up for MMA
MMA is able to save his hellions from lings
lings runby to the 3rd of MMA
marines chase the lings away
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silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 22 2012 09:51 GMT
#328
MMA seems to be closing the advantage. These hellions are going to be great against the ling army of B4. B4 seems to feel a little too comfortable.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 22 2012 09:53 GMT
#329
I take it back. B4 reading the situation well.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
October 22 2012 09:53 GMT
#330
Reaperrrr
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 22 2012 09:53 GMT
#331
MMA BUILDING REAPERRRRRR
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
October 22 2012 09:53 GMT
#332
hmm trading 50 lings + banes for 10 workers?
mind mind mind mind mind mind
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 22 2012 09:54 GMT
#333
This game looks so old-school, marine-tank versus muta-ling-bane. Haha. I like it.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
HonorZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France858 Posts
October 22 2012 09:54 GMT
#334
Hm even if MMA seems to be behind I have the feeling B4 play will not be enough to break him.
"If you don't drop sweat today you'll drop tears tomorrow"
MogA
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland43 Posts
October 22 2012 09:54 GMT
#335
Thanks for the liveticking =)
Sambobly
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia241 Posts
October 22 2012 09:55 GMT
#336
Mutalingbane is so much fun to watch/play.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 22 2012 09:55 GMT
#337
On October 22 2012 18:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 18:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 22 2012 18:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL Season 5 Up & Down Matches
BBoongBBoong vs MMA
Map: Daybreak


0:00
BBoongBBoong spawns in the bottom left
MMA spawns in the top right

1:45
Proxy rax from MMA
drone scouts it before the 2nd rax is built

2:00
Hatch first from BBoongBBoong
Pool started for BBoongBBoong

3:00
gas for B4
Bunker started in B4's natural
drones are pulled to defend
building scv is killed

4:00
ling production begins for B4
CC started on the low grond for MMA
MMA floating his rax back to his main
3rd CC started in the natural for MMA

5:00
a bunch of lings get into MMA's natural
MMA isnt walled off so lings just run in
MMA pulls scvs from his main to defend

6:00
MMA is able to hold it off with lings and marines -- 6 scvs were killed
3rd base started for B4
ling speed finishes for B4
Factory on the way for MMA

7:00
double ebay started for MMA
tech lab started for MMA on his rax
reactor started on MMA's factory
1-1 started for MMA

8:00
Macro hatch started for B4
reactored hellion production started for MMA
stim started for MMA
starport started for MMA
double evo chamber started for B4

9:00
B4 goes up to 6 gas
reactored medivac production begins
mma stops at 4 hellions
3 more rax added on
1-1 started for B4
baneling nest started for B4
Lair started for B4

10:00
MMA lands his 3rd OC
armory finishing up for MMA
MMA is able to save his hellions from lings
lings runby to the 3rd of MMA
marines chase the lings away

11:00
baneling speed started for B4
2-2 started for MMA
combat shields started for MMA
Spire started for B4
MMA pushing forward to try and deny creep
lings and banelings chase his forces away

12:00
4th base of B4 finishes
lings break through the building bunker in the wall of MMA
lings also run to the 3rd
banelings go into MMA's natural
10 more workers were killed

13:00
2-2 started for B4
siege mode started for MMA
siege tank production begins
reaper out for MMA
+1 flier attack startedf or B4
muta production started for MMA
4th base started for MMA
+1 vehicle weapons on the way for MMA

14:00
2nd factory on the way for MMA
MMA scouts the 4th base of B4
reaper harassing at the 4th of b4 but a queen pushes it away
infestation pit started for B4
mutas kill a dropship full of marines over space
thor started for MMA

15:00
mutas deflected by marines at the 3rd of MMA
3-3 started for MMA
Hive started for B4
pathogen glands started for B4
MMA landing his 4th base
B4 loses a lot of lings to siege tank shots
planetary fortress morphing at MMA's 4th
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silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 22 2012 09:55 GMT
#338
MMA's control is amazing.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 22 2012 09:55 GMT
#339
On October 22 2012 18:54 HonorZ wrote:
Hm even if MMA seems to be behind I have the feeling B4 play will not be enough to break him.


I actually disagree that he was behind. He was behind in bases but he was able to consistantly force engagements that went his way with a better army to cancel out better econ.
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
October 22 2012 09:56 GMT
#340
That was one desperate attack. But why though.
Always look on the bright side of life
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