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As usual, don't player bash, don't flame, and don't balance whine. Failure to heed this warning will have consequences.
minhblizzard
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore425 Posts
August 19 2012 14:44 GMT
#2341
New drinking game: a shot everytime Tasteless says "sth hits sth very hard"
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 19 2012 14:44 GMT
#2342
man tasteless' observing is not that good
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
August 19 2012 14:44 GMT
#2343
On August 19 2012 23:40 Sp00ly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 23:39 Xiphos wrote:
Honestly I don't know what could MVP have done to prevent this from happening.

The only thing he could have done would be to go Tanks from factories but he would have gotten raped by the Mutalisks.

Even though the harass were more than exceptionally done, he still lost....

Geez


The harass was bad. He lost his first 12 hellions for basically nothing.


Yeah, it was ATROCIOUS. It's pretty clear why MVP lost the game. The only time his harass was really good and killed significant drone numbers was when VortiX's army was already made and halfway across the map, when MVP needed the hellions at home to buffer damage.

MVP also needed to pull more scvs.

This is why I hate balance whine so much, it permeates everything.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46227 Posts
August 19 2012 14:44 GMT
#2344
On August 19 2012 23:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 23:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Mvp vs. Vortix Game 4:

Cloud Kingdom, Mvp bottom left, Vortix top right

3:00- Mvp opens barracks first at his ramp. Vortix opens hatch first and drone scouts to make sure Mvp isn't doing anything too crazy. Pool goes down, and then Mvp expands.


5:00- Double gas for Mvp. 4 queens out for Vortix, powering drones hard.


8:00- Fast starport for Mvp, cloak banshee on the way. 4 hellions out to scout. Lair going down.


10:00- Banshee mis-micro, but hellions doing decent damage. Not fantastic harrassment by Mvp. Spire on the way. Mvp tried to take third base but had to lift to lings.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
August 19 2012 14:44 GMT
#2345
... I still can't believe zergs at this level (with their map control and knowing it's coming) loses to hellion run-bys.
Wockets
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong467 Posts
August 19 2012 14:44 GMT
#2346
Mvp's harass negated :/ Lings attacking 3rd
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33660 Posts
August 19 2012 14:44 GMT
#2347
take that sagi units!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
icecreamlolz
Profile Joined February 2012
205 Posts
August 19 2012 14:45 GMT
#2348
On August 19 2012 23:44 minhblizzard wrote:
New drinking game: a shot everytime Tasteless says "sth hits sth very hard"

dude, you are on that tastosis-hate today. cut them some slag :/
mcbosstossgsl2012season1<3
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
August 19 2012 14:45 GMT
#2349
On August 19 2012 23:44 Hypemeup wrote:
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On August 19 2012 23:42 yeint wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:40 FataLe wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:39 yeint wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:37 FataLe wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:36 yeint wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:34 FataLe wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:32 Hypemeup wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:32 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:31 Asha` wrote:
Typical fragility of mech.

Zerg just swaps a bunch of roaches and steamrolls anti-muta army.


You just keep going, don't you?


He is just stating facts.

First statement was fact.

Second isn't.


Sure it is. That's exactly what Zerg did. Baited thors and swapped to roaches.

Not everything is a whine.

Sure that's what happened that game. But I think Asha speaks generally. Which isn't fact.


It's his appraisal of mech in TvZ, not a statement on Zerg being overpowered/abusive/whatever.

Yes but it's not fact. Which was my entire point.


Okay, you win this semantic argument that no one else was involved in.


Arguing semantics is what cool. intelligent people do.


Nothing could be further from the truth.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
biteMe
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany241 Posts
August 19 2012 14:45 GMT
#2350
those were expensive lings.. for mvp
I am very mad because i am german. Also i hate web 2.0.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
August 19 2012 14:45 GMT
#2351
Tasteless shouldn't be allowed to observe ever again. This is pretty abysmal. Why not use one of Day9 or Kaelaris on a separate computer to observe?
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Ayoeme
Profile Joined November 2011
Latvia59 Posts
August 19 2012 14:45 GMT
#2352
On August 19 2012 23:22 JayJay_90 wrote:
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On August 19 2012 23:20 Ayoeme wrote:
Haha, i guess i see why Incontrol said "the problem with day9's commentary might be that it is often very very negative because he was a pro gamer himself."

wut, when did he say that?

i feel like it's the complete opposite, day9 makes every mediocre move sound super awesome.


Yesterday. And we're thinking about 2 different things. He is very enthusiastic, yes, often praises the decisions, even the simple ones. But just like that, he is pretty much the only one who goes all like "This is a terrible, terrible decision due to A and B." Other casters do that sometimes, yes, but they always go like "he couldn't have known that." But day9 does that fairly often with less excuses. That isn't a bad thing. It's... different. Just that it kinda sticks out if you keep a track of it. People generally don't do that because "i wouldn't have done better in that position, i'm no pro gamer." My demigod day9 doesn't have that thing. He was one.
For some things, reason is not necessary.
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
August 19 2012 14:45 GMT
#2353
they need to clone STLegend, if you are used to GSL casting this is pretty poor performance
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46227 Posts
August 19 2012 14:45 GMT
#2354
On August 19 2012 23:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 23:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Mvp vs. Vortix Game 4:

Cloud Kingdom, Mvp bottom left, Vortix top right

3:00- Mvp opens barracks first at his ramp. Vortix opens hatch first and drone scouts to make sure Mvp isn't doing anything too crazy. Pool goes down, and then Mvp expands.


5:00- Double gas for Mvp. 4 queens out for Vortix, powering drones hard.


8:00- Fast starport for Mvp, cloak banshee on the way. 4 hellions out to scout. Lair going down.


10:00- Banshee mis-micro, but hellions doing decent damage. Not fantastic harrassment by Mvp. Spire on the way. Mvp tried to take third base but had to lift to lings.


12:00- Mvp going hardcore bio this game. Lots of barracks. Mutalisks popping out. Three base for each player. Vortix up 20 supply, 110-90. Infestors on the way.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
August 19 2012 14:46 GMT
#2355
On August 19 2012 23:45 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 23:44 Hypemeup wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:42 yeint wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:40 FataLe wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:39 yeint wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:37 FataLe wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:36 yeint wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:34 FataLe wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:32 Hypemeup wrote:
On August 19 2012 23:32 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
[quote]

You just keep going, don't you?


He is just stating facts.

First statement was fact.

Second isn't.


Sure it is. That's exactly what Zerg did. Baited thors and swapped to roaches.

Not everything is a whine.

Sure that's what happened that game. But I think Asha speaks generally. Which isn't fact.


It's his appraisal of mech in TvZ, not a statement on Zerg being overpowered/abusive/whatever.

Yes but it's not fact. Which was my entire point.


Okay, you win this semantic argument that no one else was involved in.


Arguing semantics is what cool. intelligent people do.


Nothing could be further from the truth.


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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 19 2012 14:46 GMT
#2356
On August 19 2012 23:45 Dexington wrote:
Tasteless shouldn't be allowed to observe ever again. This is pretty abysmal. Why not use one of Day9 or Kaelaris on a separate computer to observe?


Bad planning. Any respectable big league at this point needs a dedicated observer.
EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
August 19 2012 14:46 GMT
#2357
Hmm..Just tuned in and Day9's stream is laggy. I wonder if it's just my connection. Although, there was no lag yesterday. :/
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33660 Posts
August 19 2012 14:46 GMT
#2358
On August 19 2012 23:45 BlindKill wrote:
they need to clone STLegend, if you are used to GSL casting this is pretty poor performance


it's funny because they brought him in due to tasteless being bad at obsing and casting at the same time
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
biteMe
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany241 Posts
August 19 2012 14:47 GMT
#2359
mvp falling apart?
I am very mad because i am german. Also i hate web 2.0.
icecreamlolz
Profile Joined February 2012
205 Posts
August 19 2012 14:47 GMT
#2360
dem lords are inc.
mcbosstossgsl2012season1<3
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