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On May 30 2012 21:26 Thrombozyt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 21:22 MentalGNT wrote:On May 30 2012 21:20 Thrombozyt wrote:
Can any protoss explain, why Force + 2 cannons per mineral line isn't the natural response to phoenix? Making 2 cannons is too expensive. In PvP every mineral counts. The DPS of one cannon isn't enough to deter phoenix harass. I always thought gas is the more precious resource... also stargate + 3 pheonix is 600/450. You are telling me that it's a bad deal to shut that down with 750 minerals only? Plus you open yourself the option for upgrades.
The problem with those 750 minerals is that they don't help in the actual engagement, while the phoenix are free to lift up immortals and stalkers.
In this game, JYP didn't even kill that many probes with his phoenix but their presence in the final battle was crucial as they lifted TREME's units up.
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I'm so glad that SlayerS made it through but honestly I can't see ZENEX losing to Liquid or NSHS. Jjakji has strong TvZ but then again so does MMA and NSHS doesn't have the depth that SlayerS did.
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On May 30 2012 21:31 Sea_Food wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 21:30 Fionn wrote:On May 30 2012 21:30 Digitalis wrote:
question from a gstl virgin: does tastosis cast any gstl matches? Nope. All Wolf and Khaldor nowadays. Tastosis only does Code S. It might be just me, but it feels like they dont even cast half of the Code S games either.
That's because they usually have an MLG event to do in the middle of the season. Only time they do Code S over MLG is if it's a finals coming up for Code S. Khaldor and Wolf pretty much do 80% of the casting with their work in GSTL, Code A, Up and Downs, and Code A qualifiers.
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On May 30 2012 21:27 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 21:25 Fionn wrote:
Slayers, by getting 1st, actually gets the harder group. They now have to face MvP in their first match next round and are also grouped with Prime. Prime isn't that scary. Prime always went out in the first round. Except last time.
You haven't been keeping up with the times, Prime has been building a lineup that becomes stronger and stronger each season, more of their players are getting into Code S or contending with Code S players and they have a good diverse lineup with different styles and strengths in their players. At the moment they are one of the most frightening teams.
Back on topic, looking forward to see Thorzain in the GSTL.
And I do hope TL can pull a miracle and defeat NSH to get a chance of revenge against Zenex, but the odds are definitely not in their favor. I'll root and cheer for them none the less.
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On May 30 2012 21:30 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 21:30 Digitalis wrote:
question from a gstl virgin: does tastosis cast any gstl matches? Not anymore. They did in the past, but since the last season it's all Khaldor and Wolf.
Khaldor and Wolf are really coming along as a great duo. It clearly pays off for casters to team-up. We have 3 decent combos now with Tastosis, Bitter/Rotti and Wolf/Khal.
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On May 30 2012 21:31 Sea_Food wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 21:30 Fionn wrote:On May 30 2012 21:30 Digitalis wrote:
question from a gstl virgin: does tastosis cast any gstl matches? Nope. All Wolf and Khaldor nowadays. Tastosis only does Code S. It might be just me, but it feels like they dont even cast half of the Code S games either.
Well with all the MLG stuff and for some reason they always go to there you are not wrong.
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On May 30 2012 21:30 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 21:25 Sea_Food wrote:On May 30 2012 21:24 Raskit wrote:Such a shame  for Zenex. They still have a chance against Liquid/NS HoSeo though. Every series has been exciting so far this season. Good stuff. ZeneX already destroyed Liquid. Yea, but Taeja wasn't there which most likely would've been huge since hes already all-killed Zenex before
Well but that was a whole different Zenex. With Taeja it would have been closer, but it don't they would have won.
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On May 30 2012 21:32 Fionn wrote:
Group A next round is going to be scary.
Prime
2nd place of TSL/SK-IM/Fnatic
MvP
Slayers
This is the mother-fucking GSTL! If it ain't stacked, it ain't right!
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On May 30 2012 21:25 LeLfe wrote:
it is actually better to get 2nd in this group, as 1st joins Prime and MVP while 2nd gets StarTale and FXO
But there will probably be IM in group B too lol
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On May 30 2012 21:28 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 21:27 Koshi wrote:On May 30 2012 21:25 Fionn wrote:
Slayers, by getting 1st, actually gets the harder group. They now have to face MvP in their first match next round and are also grouped with Prime. Prime isn't that scary. Prime always went out in the first round. Except last time. They have four people in Code S and B4 was super close to getting there. Creator has like 3 of the top 4 accounts atop of the KR GM at some insane 75% win rate for each one, and GhostKing is getting back in form, too. Prime is insanely scary.
no worry, it is EG slayers. Eg_Creator, EG_ghostking incoming
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On May 30 2012 21:33 Raskit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 21:30 Serinox wrote:On May 30 2012 21:30 Digitalis wrote:
question from a gstl virgin: does tastosis cast any gstl matches? Not anymore. They did in the past, but since the last season it's all Khaldor and Wolf. Khaldor and Wolf are really coming along as a great duo. It clearly pays off for casters to team-up. We have 3 decent combos now with Tastosis, Bitter/Rotti and Wolf/Khal.
I love Wolf/Khal. Especially Khaldor. His game knowledge, excitement and amount of work he puts into Esports is AMAZINGGGG.
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On May 30 2012 21:32 Fionn wrote:
Group A next round is going to be scary.
Prime
2nd place of TSL/SK-IM/Fnatic
MvP
Slayers
Hope SK-IM doesn't slip up and get 2nd place because that group would be crazy. Even slotting in TSL makes it tough.
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On May 30 2012 21:31 Sea_Food wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 21:30 Fionn wrote:On May 30 2012 21:30 Digitalis wrote:
question from a gstl virgin: does tastosis cast any gstl matches? Nope. All Wolf and Khaldor nowadays. Tastosis only does Code S. It might be just me, but it feels like they dont even cast half of the Code S games either.
As another person earlier in the thread said; Tastosis must have the best job in the world. They work for a few days and then takes a week off.
Of course they sometimes go to MLG and stuff, but compared to how much casting Khaldor does, I don't think their job is that hard.
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On May 30 2012 21:32 Fionn wrote:
Group A next round is going to be scary.
Prime
2nd place of TSL/SK-IM/Fnatic
MvP
Slayers
So basically STQ just got an relatively easy road to next round.
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On May 30 2012 21:30 freerolll wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 21:26 Thrombozyt wrote:On May 30 2012 21:22 MentalGNT wrote:On May 30 2012 21:20 Thrombozyt wrote:
Can any protoss explain, why Force + 2 cannons per mineral line isn't the natural response to phoenix? Making 2 cannons is too expensive. In PvP every mineral counts. The DPS of one cannon isn't enough to deter phoenix harass. I always thought gas is the more precious resource... also stargate + 3 pheonix is 600/450. You are telling me that it's a bad deal to shut that down with 750 minerals only? Plus you open yourself the option for upgrades. Cannons are maybe good response vs phoenix "harras" But the phoenix player can just stop harrasing your mineral line and just use them to lift up key units in battle!
If his mineral line is safe and both have expanded, why on earth do you have to move out before a 3rd gets taken? Prepare a 2base timing and use the fact that you can sneak in upgrades. Colossi cannot be lifted anyhow.
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So, ZeNEX is up agaisnt the winner of NSHS vs TL right?
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On May 30 2012 21:29 Dodgin wrote:It was close, why so mean to the team you apparently like?
The last game was awful.
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On May 30 2012 21:33 Raskit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 21:30 Serinox wrote:On May 30 2012 21:30 Digitalis wrote:
question from a gstl virgin: does tastosis cast any gstl matches? Not anymore. They did in the past, but since the last season it's all Khaldor and Wolf. Khaldor and Wolf are really coming along as a great duo. It clearly pays off for casters to team-up. We have 3 decent combos now with Tastosis, Bitter/Rotti and Wolf/Khal.
TotalBiscuit and dApollo also deserve a mention because of their great synergy, I love their duo just as much as all the above.
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On May 30 2012 21:35 polyphonyEX wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 21:29 Dodgin wrote:On May 30 2012 21:28 polyphonyEX wrote:
Shameful result. It was close, why so mean to the team you apparently like? The last game was awful.
I guess all the games Life won were awful as well. Because I rooted for SlayerS and Liquid yesterday.
Wasn't an awful game dude.
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On May 30 2012 21:35 MentalGNT wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 21:31 Sea_Food wrote:On May 30 2012 21:30 Fionn wrote:On May 30 2012 21:30 Digitalis wrote:
question from a gstl virgin: does tastosis cast any gstl matches? Nope. All Wolf and Khaldor nowadays. Tastosis only does Code S. It might be just me, but it feels like they dont even cast half of the Code S games either. As another person earlier in the thread said; Tastosis must have the best job in the world. They work for a few days and then takes a week off. Of course they sometimes go to MLG and stuff, but compared to how much casting Khaldor does, I don't think their job is that hard.
You have to remember that Artosis has become a father. That's a pretty good reason to step down from the pensum he had before. And Tasteless doesn't work as a caster with anybody than Artosis.
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