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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 14 2012 14:14 GMT
#781
quite bad by DarKFoRcE in mid/lategame.

After his first successful push (where nightend messed up his FFs completely) he shouldve immediatly build: Spire, Hive, 4th and 5th with his 2.5k/500 bank instead of pushing roach/ling on 3, later 4 base forever and slow teching.

just my opinion :/
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
January 14 2012 14:15 GMT
#782
On January 14 2012 23:14 KalWarkov wrote:
quite bad by DarKFoRcE in mid/lategame.

After his first successful push (where nightend messed up his FFs completely) he shouldve immediatly build: Spire, Hive, 4th and 5th with his 2.5k/500 bank instead of pushing roach/ling on 3, later 4 base forever and slow teching.

just my opinion :/

I think he should have already been teching to something to begin with--infestor roach is just kind of bad when both players are on 3base. His upgrades were also atrocious which really hurt the ability of the roaches to be cost efficient.
Liquid | SKT
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
January 14 2012 14:18 GMT
#783
Lots of slow, great games today. Sad to see Darkforce leave the tournament in such a horrid manner :S
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 14 2012 14:21 GMT
#784
On January 14 2012 23:15 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 23:14 KalWarkov wrote:
quite bad by DarKFoRcE in mid/lategame.

After his first successful push (where nightend messed up his FFs completely) he shouldve immediatly build: Spire, Hive, 4th and 5th with his 2.5k/500 bank instead of pushing roach/ling on 3, later 4 base forever and slow teching.

just my opinion :/

I think he should have already been teching to something to begin with--infestor roach is just kind of bad when both players are on 3base. His upgrades were also atrocious which really hurt the ability of the roaches to be cost efficient.


well, a maxed push from 2 sites on antiga is always good against protoss, even if he controls well, since at best he has 120 supply with colossus or 140 supply of non-aoe (when 3 base at least, might be more with 2 base). But you cannot expect to push again and again while expanding very slowly and teching to hive at the 20 minute mark.

Especially on antiga it should be the zergs aim to sit on the middle tower with BL infestor as soon as possible, it doesnt matter how u try to reach it. this way you can denie the protosses "natural" 4th and have unlimited mapcontrol. Seeing roach/ling/infestor 200/200 for 20 minutes and then suddenly losing to the slowly growing protoss ball just hurts my brain :/
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
January 14 2012 14:21 GMT
#785
On January 14 2012 23:15 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 23:14 KalWarkov wrote:
quite bad by DarKFoRcE in mid/lategame.

After his first successful push (where nightend messed up his FFs completely) he shouldve immediatly build: Spire, Hive, 4th and 5th with his 2.5k/500 bank instead of pushing roach/ling on 3, later 4 base forever and slow teching.

just my opinion :/

I think he should have already been teching to something to begin with--infestor roach is just kind of bad when both players are on 3base. His upgrades were also atrocious which really hurt the ability of the roaches to be cost efficient.


It's okay to be on roach/ling/infestor while toss is saturating his third. But you absolutely need more bases (usually 2) and higher tech once it goes on into the late game, because there is NOTHING you can build that trades remotely efficiently vs colo/storm.
Icky
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark95 Posts
January 14 2012 14:23 GMT
#786
The french stream isn't delayed. o.O
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
January 14 2012 14:28 GMT
#787
TB what the fuck, "69 drones is a delicious position to be in".
"Daddy, how did the Protossaurs go extinct?" "A giant EMP hit the earth" - Fionn
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 14:29:57
January 14 2012 14:29 GMT
#788
On January 14 2012 23:23 Icky wrote:
The french stream isn't delayed. o.O

Wow, the delay is 5 whole minutes.
Edit: Blizzard minutes.
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
January 14 2012 14:35 GMT
#789
Darkforce "SHOULD" win this, if he doesn't something is severely wrong.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
January 14 2012 14:35 GMT
#790
On January 14 2012 23:28 Jtom wrote:
TB what the fuck, "69 drones is a delicious position to be in".

Bahahaha, i missed that. I'm 12.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 14:39:35
January 14 2012 14:36 GMT
#791
I think Darkforce is going to get rolled.

Edit: oh, I didn't know he had THAT many corruptors lol. and it was 3-3 vs 1-1
KinQuh
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland810 Posts
January 14 2012 14:37 GMT
#792
49 roaches in production :D
Holy check.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 14 2012 14:40 GMT
#793
TB: "DarkForce is an idiot if he doesn't attack right now". DarkForce doesn't attack ... :D

It's hard for DarkForce to attack up that ramp, not sure what game they are commentating ^^
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
January 14 2012 14:40 GMT
#794
Come on Darkforce! :D

He's the NASL finals hero yeah?
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
January 14 2012 14:41 GMT
#795
On January 14 2012 23:40 cyclone25 wrote:
TB: "DarkForce is an idiot if he doesn't attack right now". DarkForce doesn't attack ... :D

It's hard for DarkForce to attack up that ramp, not sure what game they are commentating ^^

At that point it didn't even matter, sure he'd lose some roaches but he had broods on the way and like 60 supply advantage.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
January 14 2012 14:41 GMT
#796
"69, drones, a delicious position to be in" - TotalBiscuit
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
January 14 2012 14:41 GMT
#797
On January 14 2012 23:41 Flanq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 23:40 cyclone25 wrote:
TB: "DarkForce is an idiot if he doesn't attack right now". DarkForce doesn't attack ... :D

It's hard for DarkForce to attack up that ramp, not sure what game they are commentating ^^

At that point it didn't even matter, sure he'd lose some roaches but he had broods on the way and like 60 supply advantage.


3-3 vs 1-1 (?) as well.
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
January 14 2012 14:42 GMT
#798
On January 14 2012 23:41 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 23:41 Flanq wrote:
On January 14 2012 23:40 cyclone25 wrote:
TB: "DarkForce is an idiot if he doesn't attack right now". DarkForce doesn't attack ... :D

It's hard for DarkForce to attack up that ramp, not sure what game they are commentating ^^

At that point it didn't even matter, sure he'd lose some roaches but he had broods on the way and like 60 supply advantage.


3-3 vs 1-1 (?) as well.

And that minor detail, yes :D
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
January 14 2012 14:45 GMT
#799
Is there a place where I can get the results so far?
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 14:46:05
January 14 2012 14:45 GMT
#800
On January 14 2012 23:45 Jetaap wrote:
Is there a place where I can get the results so far?

click on the liquipedia symbol besides "SHOUTcraft 4 - Day 1" stream on the right.
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