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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37065 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 10:34:42
November 30 2011 10:34 GMT
#881
Group: G.Na

Song: TOP Girl
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
November 30 2011 10:34 GMT
#882
kpop set 3 begins

nana stands strong but g.na proves to be a worthy adversary



i dont have any commentary. i fucking love g.na.

<3.

OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
November 30 2011 10:35 GMT
#883
Yes~ I reachecd home in time for BoxeR match !
BoxeR Fighting!
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
November 30 2011 10:35 GMT
#884
DRG!!
you can do it!
back to code S in no time!
moo...for DRG
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 30 2011 10:35 GMT
#885
BoxeR on Doa stream, DRG on the other. I'll do an LR on BoxeR's game v Virus.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37065 Posts
November 30 2011 10:35 GMT
#886
Poll: Recommend DRG vs Luvsic Game 1?

Yes (7)
 
64%

No (2)
 
18%

If you have time (2)
 
18%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend DRG vs Luvsic Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



DRG vs Luvsic
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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itsjuspeter
Profile Joined November 2010
United States668 Posts
November 30 2011 10:35 GMT
#887
On November 30 2011 19:31 secretary bird wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 19:24 mordk wrote:
On November 30 2011 19:07 FXOpen wrote:
Again my players have to play fan favourites He won because HerO went pheonix which is the easy counter to 1-1-1... There are other protosses who would have done a pressure build to kill off some units and weaken the 1-1-1 whilst expanding. It was a kneejerk reaction by hero that lost him the game (without knowing how it would have panned out otherwise)...

That being said, people really do under rate asd too much... He got into code S......

In 1-1-1 favorable maps, it must be blind countered, which leaves you extremely vulnerable to anything else. If you don't do a blind counter you will die to the 1-1-1, doesn't matter if you scout it. MC and HerO have both proven many times you need to blind counter, it's the only thing that works with enough consistency.

That early pressure you talk about only works in maps large enough, say, Tal'Darim. Terran knows this, which is why they never use that build on TDA.

Early game TvP is broken and this is precisely why. Late game TvP is broken mostly in favor of Protoss because of other reasons, which makes the whole matchup terrible.


How is the blind counter to 1/1/1 extremely vulnerable to anything else?


Any FE build, i.e. 1gate expo, 15 nexus will die to a straight up 3 racks pressure.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
November 30 2011 10:35 GMT
#888
On November 30 2011 19:35 KristofferAG wrote:
BoxeR on Doa stream, DRG on the other. I'll do an LR on BoxeR's game v Virus.

i got the other


god dammit, why didnt i go to the gna concert last month
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
milesfacade
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom799 Posts
November 30 2011 10:35 GMT
#889
Monster was actually doing pretty well in that game, but I think he predicted curious would tech to mutas as well, which would explain his complete lack of preparedness when all of those lings came along.
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
November 30 2011 10:36 GMT
#890
I'm watching 3 streams right now... Stephano vs Socke being streamed now too.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 30 2011 10:37 GMT
#891
On November 30 2011 19:35 milesfacade wrote:
Monster was actually doing pretty well in that game, but I think he predicted curious would tech to mutas as well, which would explain his complete lack of preparedness when all of those lings came along.


It doesnt matter what he predicted the spire got scouted, it was a total snap call by Curious.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 10:37:27
November 30 2011 10:37 GMT
#892
(Z)Luvsic <Calm Before the Storm> (Z)DRG


luvsic on top left, drg top right

OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
IMNotMvp
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)530 Posts
November 30 2011 10:37 GMT
#893
On November 30 2011 19:36 theBizness wrote:
I'm watching 3 streams right now... Stephano vs Socke being streamed now too.

where
HitMonkie
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia518 Posts
November 30 2011 10:37 GMT
#894
7pool lol
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 30 2011 10:37 GMT
#895
Some serious counter meta gaming here to go for 14 pool on this map
Loire
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore1358 Posts
November 30 2011 10:37 GMT
#896
7 poooooooooooooool!
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 10:40:47
November 30 2011 10:38 GMT
#897
On November 30 2011 19:37 Juliette wrote:
(Z)Luvsic <Calm Before the Storm> (Z)DRG


luvsic on top left, drg top right


luvsic with the 10 pool!

drg gas first

edit: fail it was 7
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
November 30 2011 10:38 GMT
#898
On November 30 2011 19:31 secretary bird wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 19:24 mordk wrote:
On November 30 2011 19:07 FXOpen wrote:
Again my players have to play fan favourites He won because HerO went pheonix which is the easy counter to 1-1-1... There are other protosses who would have done a pressure build to kill off some units and weaken the 1-1-1 whilst expanding. It was a kneejerk reaction by hero that lost him the game (without knowing how it would have panned out otherwise)...

That being said, people really do under rate asd too much... He got into code S......

In 1-1-1 favorable maps, it must be blind countered, which leaves you extremely vulnerable to anything else. If you don't do a blind counter you will die to the 1-1-1, doesn't matter if you scout it. MC and HerO have both proven many times you need to blind counter, it's the only thing that works with enough consistency.

That early pressure you talk about only works in maps large enough, say, Tal'Darim. Terran knows this, which is why they never use that build on TDA.

Early game TvP is broken and this is precisely why. Late game TvP is broken mostly in favor of Protoss because of other reasons, which makes the whole matchup terrible.


How is the blind counter to 1/1/1 extremely vulnerable to anything else?

The best blind counter is stargate expand. Any build that relies on 2 base pressure from terran which isn't 1-1-1 will get to the protoss without enough units to hold. Bio will utterly smash stargate expand. Even MVP's marine/tank pressure crushes stargate play.

Robo counter to 1-1-1 isn't reliable enough, particularly if you get the observer first, by the time the obs scouts, you're dead already to the 1-1-1, which is why it isn't as good a blind counter as phoenix play.

The counters to 1-1-1 cannot hold anything other than the 1-1-1, unless terran makes a massive mistake, it's what we call a BO loss.
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
November 30 2011 10:38 GMT
#899
run dabu dabu run !
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37065 Posts
November 30 2011 10:38 GMT
#900
Group: SNSD

Song: Run Devil Run

HAVEN'T HEARD THIS ONE IN A WHILE!!!!
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