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pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1241
Poor control, macro and turrets timings by polt, it's not caracteristic from him.

Forgg played well, but polt played horribly.
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1242
On November 29 2011 19:56 Fionn wrote:
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On November 29 2011 19:54 theBizness wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:54 Fionn wrote:
Looking at the games, fOrGG played well, but it wasn't like he had much better macro or anything. Polt even had more SCV's and the quicker CC in game two. He lost the game because he couldn't handle the simple banshee harass. He took out the tank/marine force of fOrGG, but he lost like 30 SCV's to banshees.




... did you watch the first?


Polt scanned. Didn't see the banshee coming. Polt can't deal with banshee harass. Polt loses like 18 SCV's. Game over. Polt should have gg'ed five minutes before he actually did, making the game look even more awful than it was.


He was doing more than babysitting the banshees though, which occupies most players when they manage to keep their banshees alive.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1243
On November 29 2011 19:54 Fionn wrote:
Looking at the games, fOrGG played well, but it wasn't like he had much better macro or anything. Polt even had more SCV's and the quicker CC in game two. He lost the game because he couldn't handle the simple banshee harass. He took out the tank/marine force of fOrGG, but he lost like 30 SCV's to banshees.



Agreed. But it is much better if people simply use this victory to show why BW>sc2
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1244
On November 29 2011 19:56 Hassybaby wrote:
...Plexa! Nyovne! The BW argument has started again!
Someone, make a wc3 comment so it turns into a wc3 vs BW argument!

...Actually, don't.
#freeshauni
Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1245
I want to see his T v Z tbh.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1246
On November 29 2011 19:55 Medrea wrote:
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On November 29 2011 19:53 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:51 Medrea wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:51 Azzur wrote:
forGG has beautiful banshee control


You didnt see his first two get sniped?

They choose to be blind to any faults because he came from BW and is better than all.


I mean theBestFoU was lambasted by tastosis for sending 2 banshees to die and here we are fawning over this guy for largely doing the same.

TheBest lost his banshees to miscontrol. Fin lost them because Polt stopped them brilliantly.
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dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1247
On November 29 2011 19:55 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
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On November 29 2011 19:52 setzer wrote:
So when forgg wins Code S are people still going to doubt whether the top BW pros would dominate SC2?


Fin has been playing since season 1! It's not really like oh i switched to Sc2 now and in 3-4 weeks im a beast. He's quite familiar with the game and the current meta-game evolution.

Doesnt change the fact he a BW pro
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1248
On November 29 2011 19:56 Vorenius wrote:
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On November 29 2011 19:53 Grampz wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:51 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:51 Krossfire wrote:
dont get how u play straight bio vs marine/tank play....


It's pretty much what won Polt the super tournament, his play just seemed a bit off today.

this. very mobile vs very immobile...

Marine/tank isn't really that immobile though, pure mech is.

Pure bio should always lose to marine/tank, unless you some how manage to win a base race.

I'd say that were true if forgg had medivacs and stim, but he didn't.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1249
On November 29 2011 19:56 Grettin wrote:
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On November 29 2011 19:55 FXOpen wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:53 Grettin wrote:
LMAO. Hotbid~

[image loading]


He'd been playing for 10 months before joining oGs.... so... very...false..


Playing might not mean 'practicing' per se, though. Who knows how casually he played the first months, but other than that, you are right.


Hasn't he been high GM for a significant period of time?
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Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1250
On November 29 2011 19:55 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:53 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:51 Medrea wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:51 Azzur wrote:
forGG has beautiful banshee control


You didnt see his first two get sniped?

They choose to be blind to any faults because he came from BW and is better than all.


I mean theBestFoU was lambasted by tastosis for sending 2 banshees to die and here we are fawning over this guy for largely doing the same.


TheBest didn't have a BW career that included an MSL win (approx. 3 GSLs in equivalence?).
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1251
Honestly, forgg is going straight to the top of code s. Last match he crushed Sage - one of the upcoming protoss hopes - like it was nothing. Today, he crushes polt in two games that weren't really close. You can think its blind BW elitism if you want, but I'll let the results and games speak for themselves
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Zhazulo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden226 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1252
On November 29 2011 19:55 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:53 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:51 Medrea wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:51 Azzur wrote:
forGG has beautiful banshee control


You didnt see his first two get sniped?

They choose to be blind to any faults because he came from BW and is better than all.


I mean theBestFoU was lambasted by tastosis for sending 2 banshees to die and here we are fawning over this guy for largely doing the same.


do note, that theBestfOu's build was all about the banshees. I mean ALL about the banshees against MKP.

He had proxied his starport close to MKP's, and then ran them into his base and died basically. It was quite the disappointment
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1253
On November 29 2011 19:55 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:53 Jehct wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:51 Fionn wrote:
Literally, if Polt just deals with Fin's banshees, he's fine.

He lost both games because he couldn't deal with simple banshee harass.

To be fair, he dealt with the initial harass fine, killing 2 banshees with minimal losses. It was the next five (!?) which destroyed him lolo


Polt letting an a-moved banshee kill half his mineral line when ForGG was trying to tank push the low ground the first time was just an inexcusable failure of multitasking.

There were two banshees (one in each mineral line), plus the push, but yeah. Came down to multitasking and the better player won.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
baby elephant
Profile Joined April 2011
273 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1254
forgg has been playing for more than 4 months. he's put his work in.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42383 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1255
On November 29 2011 19:56 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:56 Grettin wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:55 FXOpen wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:53 Grettin wrote:
LMAO. Hotbid~

[image loading]


He'd been playing for 10 months before joining oGs.... so... very...false..


Playing might not mean 'practicing' per se, though. Who knows how casually he played the first months, but other than that, you are right.


He's been in GM since it started *shrug*


I would be more surprised if he wouldn't be. He has the skills.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
diskolauch
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany48 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1256
name of the song ?
hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1257
On November 29 2011 19:54 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:54 VENDIZ wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:52 setzer wrote:
So when forgg wins Code S are people still going to doubt whether the top BW pros would dominate SC2?


Dude, did you miss MVP winning three GSLs? And yes, MVP > forGG when they switched... forGG slumped hard after his MSL victory in 2008

fOrGG was still very much better than MVP when MVP switched to SC2.


Yeah, I don't understand why people are thinking MVP > forGG when MVP switched to sc2.
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
November 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#1258
On November 29 2011 19:55 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:53 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:51 Medrea wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:51 Azzur wrote:
forGG has beautiful banshee control


You didnt see his first two get sniped?

They choose to be blind to any faults because he came from BW and is better than all.


I mean theBestFoU was lambasted by tastosis for sending 2 banshees to die and here we are fawning over this guy for largely doing the same.


Do you even remember TheBest's banshee control?

Don't even compare that with ForGG's banshees.
BnK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States538 Posts
November 29 2011 10:58 GMT
#1259
wtf all matches I wanna watch are on the first stream

dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
November 29 2011 10:58 GMT
#1260
why is everyone saying that the banshees in game 2 won the game? it was the 3 tanks seigeing on lower ground killing 10 scvs in 2 seconds
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
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