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On June 05 2011 08:20 imareaver3 wrote:Problem with that match is that IdrA has nothing to gain or lose from it besides pride; he's already made the next round. So I suspect that it will be superseded by matches that have more suspense to them.
If he loses to Tzain and Tzain finishes 4-1, then he won't be first in his group.
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On June 05 2011 08:16 nam nam wrote:
If Moon and Naniwa both ends up 4-1, who will take first? What's the tie breaker?
I think they take their head to head result dont they?
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Ya..Moon really isn't that great, that group is really weak, and he lost to the only strong player in it which is Nani. Pretty sure he'd lose to all the Koreans participating and the best foreigners.
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THEY ARE BACK, every come gather and let us enjoy an amazing match!
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On June 05 2011 08:21 ffadicted wrote:
Moon: 2 - 1
MMA : 4 - 0
July: 3 - 0 (+10-0 in open bracket)
MC: 3 - 1
Losira: 3 - 0
Korea: 15 - 2 in pool play, only loses to naniwa and idra
Korea and the Gracken dominating the MLG lol
moon's 3-1 afaik
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july vs sheth about to start
we have epic view of the crowd
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On June 05 2011 08:18 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 08:14 ChickenLips wrote:On June 05 2011 08:11 travis wrote:On June 05 2011 08:09 Blasphemi wrote:On June 05 2011 08:08 Azarkon wrote:On June 05 2011 08:05 travis wrote:On June 05 2011 08:01 Golgotha wrote:
yeah the koreans are on a different level for sure. just take a look at this game. well I think there are some nonkoreans who can compete what comes to mind is white-ra, dimaga, naniwa, huk, maybe jinro or kas, thorzain, happy, idra, sen, maybe some chinese guys... prolly some others im not thinking of. and then there are some others who can win but only if they are really on their game. im thinking like sheth or kiwikaki level. Indeed. You can't really compare below-the-best foreigners to the best Koreans. That comparison doesn't even make sense. IdrA, Naniwa, Thorzain - they're the real deal when it comes to foreigner pros and it'll be interesting to see how they do when the deciding games come. Too bad more top foreigners, esp. Europeans, didn't attend this MLG. But I think we'll have a good sampling by the end of the tournament. This is not the best Koreans either. No Nestea, MVP, Bomber or MKP. well... it kinda is. its iffy who is the best koreans still. these guys won their spots here by beating their korean counterparts. (i wouldn't disagree in opinion that your picks might be better, especially i think nestea is clearly sick top level korean) but these guys are still basically top koreans youre wrong travis only MMA and MC are top level of those that came MVP, NesTea, Bomber even sC, all still in KR an clearly better than moon, july and losira well MC and MMA fit with the 2 you listed, so thats 2 of 5 being absolute tippy top. And july and losira are probably still top 10 koreans... so that's 4 out of 5 being pretty sick high level koreans. (and obv moon is still a good player but I won't disagree that he isn't top... just don't want to take anything from him he's a good sc2 player)
Isn't MMA in Code A? I thought he lost to Huk in the Up/Down. MC has been exiting early in the previous tournaments. He and other Korean Protosses have been struggling recently.
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On June 05 2011 08:17 DeltruS wrote:What does the first part say? So dark.
Says "adjust your screen contrast ratio"
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On June 05 2011 08:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 08:17 Heavenly wrote:On June 05 2011 08:14 Pajegetc wrote:On June 05 2011 08:12 Heavenly wrote:On June 05 2011 08:09 Denzil wrote:On June 05 2011 08:05 travis wrote:On June 05 2011 08:01 Golgotha wrote:
yeah the koreans are on a different level for sure. just take a look at this game. well I think there are some nonkoreans who can compete what comes to mind is white-ra, dimaga, naniwa, huk, maybe jinro or kas, thorzain, happy, idra, sen, maybe some chinese guys... prolly some others im not thinking of. and then there are some others who can win but only if they are really on their game. im thinking like sheth or kiwikaki level. I am really so interested to see how idra or naniwa or thorzain can do vs these koreans. my personal pick for this tournament is idra. A lot of foreigners seem to suffer a sort of LAN anxiety. Sheth choking up against MMA was a big example of it. Koreans have the experience of sitting in a booth for Code S and Code A on a frequent basis. Foreigners who usually end up playing most if not all tournaments from their desktop have to play against an unfamiliar style in an unfamiliar booth. Haha, it's funny how people call jetlag a bad excuse but no one would ever call this out. Excuses are bad in general, I just want the better player to win, no excuses, no bullshit. We've seen MC v IdrA with no excuses and no bullshit at Dreamhack. I hope to see them meet again this time. As for whether or not some people are underperforming due to LAN anxiety, tough to say. Sheth seemed to because he has been dodging LANS forever. MC vs Idra game 1 at dreamhack was still a really close game. If idra hadnt failed by losing all his brood lords to blink stalker he might have won. Game 2 he just gave up and 6 pooled
He was pretty fucked once he maxed out on hydras instead of roaches as support. It was a decent idea when he did it but it was bad late game decision making that bit him in the ass. He might have taken out more of MC's army but MC had a bigger economy and the storm/colossi killed those hydras in about 5 seconds no matter where the brood lords were positioned.
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red stream = thorzain vs MC
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oh sweet think we're back to two games at the same time. Time to bounce between streams
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On June 05 2011 08:21 ffadicted wrote:
Moon: 2 - 1
MMA : 4 - 0
July: 3 - 0 (+10-0 in open bracket)
MC: 3 - 1
Losira: 3 - 0
Korea: 15 - 2 in pool play, only loses to naniwa and idra
Korea and the Gracken dominating the MLG lol
That is.... pretty amazing.
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damn that was good timing, i got a couple of new beers some olives and come back and everything starts again  did i miss july get interviewed?/what did he say?
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July vs sheth on blue, GET HYPE?!?
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On June 05 2011 08:18 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 08:14 ChickenLips wrote:On June 05 2011 08:11 travis wrote:On June 05 2011 08:09 Blasphemi wrote:On June 05 2011 08:08 Azarkon wrote:On June 05 2011 08:05 travis wrote:On June 05 2011 08:01 Golgotha wrote:
yeah the koreans are on a different level for sure. just take a look at this game. well I think there are some nonkoreans who can compete what comes to mind is white-ra, dimaga, naniwa, huk, maybe jinro or kas, thorzain, happy, idra, sen, maybe some chinese guys... prolly some others im not thinking of. and then there are some others who can win but only if they are really on their game. im thinking like sheth or kiwikaki level. Indeed. You can't really compare below-the-best foreigners to the best Koreans. That comparison doesn't even make sense. IdrA, Naniwa, Thorzain - they're the real deal when it comes to foreigner pros and it'll be interesting to see how they do when the deciding games come. Too bad more top foreigners, esp. Europeans, didn't attend this MLG. But I think we'll have a good sampling by the end of the tournament. This is not the best Koreans either. No Nestea, MVP, Bomber or MKP. well... it kinda is. its iffy who is the best koreans still. these guys won their spots here by beating their korean counterparts. (i wouldn't disagree in opinion that your picks might be better, especially i think nestea is clearly sick top level korean) but these guys are still basically top koreans youre wrong travis only MMA and MC are top level of those that came MVP, NesTea, Bomber even sC, all still in KR an clearly better than moon, july and losira well MC and MMA fit with the 2 you listed, so thats 2 of 5 being absolute tippy top. And july and losira are probably still top 10 koreans... so that's 4 out of 5 being pretty sick high level koreans. (and obv moon is still a good player but I won't disagree that he isn't top... just don't want to take anything from him he's a good sc2 player)
MC is probably the best protoss in Korea.
MMA is up there with Bomber and MVP no doubt.
Losira is probably the 2nd best Zerg player in Korea, 2nd to Nestea.
July is a GSL finalist, one of the best Zerg's in Korea.
Moon is a good wc3 player.
There's not a ton better than what they sent out.
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Blue stream: Sheth vs July
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July vs Sheth on the blue stream!
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oh shit zvz sheth and july, but I need to go to sleep. gah
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Sheth v Julyzerg starting right now!!!!!!!
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