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Okay we're going to start cracking down on people bashing players for no reason. You don't have to like every player, but at least show some respect. (as of page 402)
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
June 04 2011 22:58 GMT
#10721
On June 05 2011 07:56 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:55 MrProb wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:53 Heavenly wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:51 Pajegetc wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:49 Denzil wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:46 Asshat wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:37 Coolwhip wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:35 Heavenly wrote:

MC was completely jetlagged. Confirmed in thread by the korean translator Milkis who was with them. He was the worst off out of all of them, when Tasteless took a nap inbetween casts, Losira almost fell asleep in his booth, and MMA slept 2 hours inbetween his matches. People who deny jetlag are just being delusional.


I feel bad for defending Idra, but this is such a bad excuse. If these PROFESSIONAL gamers can't play properly because of jetlag, then they should travel earlier.


MC was a last minute replacement bro. Kinda hard to travel earlier when you weren't even supposed to be there in the first place/
And none of them but Moon had experience with that much of a time difference. Losira/July/MMA were hanging out in bonfires the night they flew into the US while Moon was resting.



So according to you this is no indication of Korean - Foreigner difference skill?


Just accept that no matter what people will make excuses for when a foreigner beats a Korean.


LOL this forum literally lives in a delusional world. They seriously think that jet lag, reported firsthand, is not a reason for suboptimal play. You could SEE Losira falling asleep in his booth and Tasteless talked on stream about how he had to go backstage and pass out for a while, hence why JP covered for him. This is just completely indisputable fact. Are you people seriously just too traumatized from Korea's domination from Brood War to admit the truth?

Anyway, back to the game. I'm tired of arguing this with willfully ignorant people.


Agree with this. I am a big fan of Idra and MC but landed on thursday, get a few hours rest then started playing on Friday is a toughest possible tournament preparation.


Stop. Making. Excuses.


lol... how old is this guy
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
June 04 2011 22:58 GMT
#10722
On June 05 2011 07:51 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:49 Denzil wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:46 Asshat wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:37 Coolwhip wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:35 Heavenly wrote:

MC was completely jetlagged. Confirmed in thread by the korean translator Milkis who was with them. He was the worst off out of all of them, when Tasteless took a nap inbetween casts, Losira almost fell asleep in his booth, and MMA slept 2 hours inbetween his matches. People who deny jetlag are just being delusional.


I feel bad for defending Idra, but this is such a bad excuse. If these PROFESSIONAL gamers can't play properly because of jetlag, then they should travel earlier.


MC was a last minute replacement bro. Kinda hard to travel earlier when you weren't even supposed to be there in the first place/
And none of them but Moon had experience with that much of a time difference. Losira/July/MMA were hanging out in bonfires the night they flew into the US while Moon was resting.



So according to you this is no indication of Korean - Foreigner difference skill?


Just accept that no matter what people will make excuses for when a foreigner beats a Korean.


I hadn't previously said anything about how Koreans are better or vice versa, but yes Koreans are historically better overall. They aren't absolute though, and foreigners gain the upper hand every now and then. Hence Dreamhack winter, TSL. Every other tournament where both sides participated, Koreans won.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
June 04 2011 22:58 GMT
#10723
On June 05 2011 07:57 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:56 Roggay wrote:
Why no thors? :/


Too slow. His gas is low too.

Against July, who is making so much mutas every game, it's suicide to not get thors imo.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
June 04 2011 22:58 GMT
#10724
On June 05 2011 07:56 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:55 MrProb wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:53 Heavenly wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:51 Pajegetc wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:49 Denzil wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:46 Asshat wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:37 Coolwhip wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:35 Heavenly wrote:

MC was completely jetlagged. Confirmed in thread by the korean translator Milkis who was with them. He was the worst off out of all of them, when Tasteless took a nap inbetween casts, Losira almost fell asleep in his booth, and MMA slept 2 hours inbetween his matches. People who deny jetlag are just being delusional.


I feel bad for defending Idra, but this is such a bad excuse. If these PROFESSIONAL gamers can't play properly because of jetlag, then they should travel earlier.


MC was a last minute replacement bro. Kinda hard to travel earlier when you weren't even supposed to be there in the first place/
And none of them but Moon had experience with that much of a time difference. Losira/July/MMA were hanging out in bonfires the night they flew into the US while Moon was resting.



So according to you this is no indication of Korean - Foreigner difference skill?


Just accept that no matter what people will make excuses for when a foreigner beats a Korean.


LOL this forum literally lives in a delusional world. They seriously think that jet lag, reported firsthand, is not a reason for suboptimal play. You could SEE Losira falling asleep in his booth and Tasteless talked on stream about how he had to go backstage and pass out for a while, hence why JP covered for him. This is just completely indisputable fact. Are you people seriously just too traumatized from Korea's domination from Brood War to admit the truth?

Anyway, back to the game. I'm tired of arguing this with willfully ignorant people.


Agree with this. I am a big fan of Idra and MC but landed on thursday, get a few hours rest then started playing on Friday is a toughest possible tournament preparation.


Stop. Making. Excuses.


What excuses? The koreans are 14-2 in series won (bout to be 15-2 by the looks of this july sjow match) They're crushing even with the jetlag
The Notorious Winkles
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 04 2011 22:58 GMT
#10725
On June 05 2011 07:58 Drazerk wrote:
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On June 05 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:56 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:55 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:55 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:54 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:54 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:53 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:52 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

8:10

Another Command centre on the way for Sjow

Combat shield finishing with siege tech starting


9:00

Blue flame hellions are killed by July's speedlings in the middle of the map


9:45

Sjow attacks the third base of July but loses his forces to speedlings


10:30

Planetary and missile towers are going up at Sjow's third



11:30


Air and melee attack +1 on the way for July along with his fourth



12:30

Sjow getting a starport and a sensor tower


13:10

Ebay is knocked down to the red but is repaired just in time


14:10

Armoury on the way for Sjow

Fifth base and baneling speed on the way for July


15:00

Sjow loses his engineering bay



15:30

Great surround on the marines see their death to banelings


16:30

Thors now on the way for Sjow

whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
June 04 2011 22:58 GMT
#10726
On June 05 2011 07:57 JethroMoney wrote:
Sjow has had some questionable marine control this series.


his everything is questionable this series realy bad day it seems goo sjow!
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
Silver777
Profile Joined March 2010
United States347 Posts
June 04 2011 22:58 GMT
#10727
I feel like terrans have NO IDEA how to handle heavy muta harass...once the zerg gets like 15 muta its GG.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
June 04 2011 22:58 GMT
#10728
Man, neither player is playing well in this series, but Sjow is just mediocre all over.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 04 2011 22:59 GMT
#10729
On June 05 2011 07:58 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:58 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:56 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:55 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:55 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:54 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:54 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:53 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

9:00

Blue flame hellions are killed by July's speedlings in the middle of the map


9:45

Sjow attacks the third base of July but loses his forces to speedlings


10:30

Planetary and missile towers are going up at Sjow's third



11:30


Air and melee attack +1 on the way for July along with his fourth



12:30

Sjow getting a starport and a sensor tower


13:10

Ebay is knocked down to the red but is repaired just in time


14:10

Armoury on the way for Sjow

Fifth base and baneling speed on the way for July


15:00

Sjow loses his engineering bay



15:30

Great surround on the marines see their death to banelings


16:30

Thors now on the way for Sjow



17:00

July has gotten maxxed
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 04 2011 22:59 GMT
#10730
July showing e-hwan timing.
KneeDeeP
Profile Joined July 2010
United States256 Posts
June 04 2011 22:59 GMT
#10731
haha Thor is a little to late =/
"the virtuous man is content to dream what a wicked man really does"
Johnranger-123
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United Kingdom341 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 23:00:06
June 04 2011 22:59 GMT
#10732
Only chance is now I feel, go sjow!

EDIT:Maybe Im wrong, July not controling well
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
June 04 2011 22:59 GMT
#10733
On June 05 2011 07:58 grush57 wrote:
I dont see why any terrans get thors against july. July always goes mutas.

edit: Nvm he getting them now.

Muta is standard in ZvT so nothing extraordinary imho.
o choro é livre
nkulu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States242 Posts
June 04 2011 22:59 GMT
#10734
On June 05 2011 07:56 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:55 Mithriel wrote:
july floating like 2k minerals for a really long time


that often happens as zerg when you're running dry on gas.


Probably because he STILL isnt mining gas from nat :D lol

Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 04 2011 22:59 GMT
#10735
On June 05 2011 07:58 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:57 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:56 Roggay wrote:
Why no thors? :/


Too slow. His gas is low too.

Against July, who is making so much mutas every game, it's suicide to not get thors imo.


Missile Turrets just do better right now. July is harassing with the mutas, not attacking head-on.

See?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
June 04 2011 22:59 GMT
#10736
July is just playing around now. Play standard the rest of the tournament July and win this MLG.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
June 04 2011 22:59 GMT
#10737
July's ahead but he needs to start making Infestors
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 04 2011 22:59 GMT
#10738
On June 05 2011 07:59 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:58 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:58 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:56 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:55 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:55 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:54 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:54 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

9:45

Sjow attacks the third base of July but loses his forces to speedlings


10:30

Planetary and missile towers are going up at Sjow's third



11:30


Air and melee attack +1 on the way for July along with his fourth



12:30

Sjow getting a starport and a sensor tower


13:10

Ebay is knocked down to the red but is repaired just in time


14:10

Armoury on the way for Sjow

Fifth base and baneling speed on the way for July


15:00

Sjow loses his engineering bay



15:30

Great surround on the marines see their death to banelings


16:30

Thors now on the way for Sjow



17:00

July has gotten maxxed


17:40

July attacks the base of Sjow but he holds
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 04 2011 22:59 GMT
#10739
the funny thing is .... sjow doesnt drop at all. wtf july is just having a field day with sjow now
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 04 2011 22:59 GMT
#10740
On June 05 2011 07:58 Silver777 wrote:
I feel like terrans have NO IDEA how to handle heavy muta harass...once the zerg gets like 15 muta its GG.


A lot of terrans know most from korea/eu though. Thors are pretty good against lots of muta's dunno why lots of terrans don't make 1 to leave in the base xD
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