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Okay we're going to start cracking down on people bashing players for no reason. You don't have to like every player, but at least show some respect. (as of page 402) |
On June 05 2011 07:56 Pajegetc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 07:55 MrProb wrote:On June 05 2011 07:53 Heavenly wrote:On June 05 2011 07:51 Pajegetc wrote:On June 05 2011 07:49 Denzil wrote:On June 05 2011 07:46 Asshat wrote:On June 05 2011 07:37 Coolwhip wrote:On June 05 2011 07:35 Heavenly wrote:
MC was completely jetlagged. Confirmed in thread by the korean translator Milkis who was with them. He was the worst off out of all of them, when Tasteless took a nap inbetween casts, Losira almost fell asleep in his booth, and MMA slept 2 hours inbetween his matches. People who deny jetlag are just being delusional. I feel bad for defending Idra, but this is such a bad excuse. If these PROFESSIONAL gamers can't play properly because of jetlag, then they should travel earlier. MC was a last minute replacement bro. Kinda hard to travel earlier when you weren't even supposed to be there in the first place/ And none of them but Moon had experience with that much of a time difference. Losira/July/MMA were hanging out in bonfires the night they flew into the US while Moon was resting. So according to you this is no indication of Korean - Foreigner difference skill? Just accept that no matter what people will make excuses for when a foreigner beats a Korean. LOL this forum literally lives in a delusional world. They seriously think that jet lag, reported firsthand, is not a reason for suboptimal play. You could SEE Losira falling asleep in his booth and Tasteless talked on stream about how he had to go backstage and pass out for a while, hence why JP covered for him. This is just completely indisputable fact. Are you people seriously just too traumatized from Korea's domination from Brood War to admit the truth? Anyway, back to the game. I'm tired of arguing this with willfully ignorant people. Agree with this. I am a big fan of Idra and MC but landed on thursday, get a few hours rest then started playing on Friday is a toughest possible tournament preparation. Stop. Making. Excuses.
lol... how old is this guy
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On June 05 2011 07:51 Pajegetc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 07:49 Denzil wrote:On June 05 2011 07:46 Asshat wrote:On June 05 2011 07:37 Coolwhip wrote:On June 05 2011 07:35 Heavenly wrote:
MC was completely jetlagged. Confirmed in thread by the korean translator Milkis who was with them. He was the worst off out of all of them, when Tasteless took a nap inbetween casts, Losira almost fell asleep in his booth, and MMA slept 2 hours inbetween his matches. People who deny jetlag are just being delusional. I feel bad for defending Idra, but this is such a bad excuse. If these PROFESSIONAL gamers can't play properly because of jetlag, then they should travel earlier. MC was a last minute replacement bro. Kinda hard to travel earlier when you weren't even supposed to be there in the first place/ And none of them but Moon had experience with that much of a time difference. Losira/July/MMA were hanging out in bonfires the night they flew into the US while Moon was resting. So according to you this is no indication of Korean - Foreigner difference skill? Just accept that no matter what people will make excuses for when a foreigner beats a Korean.
I hadn't previously said anything about how Koreans are better or vice versa, but yes Koreans are historically better overall. They aren't absolute though, and foreigners gain the upper hand every now and then. Hence Dreamhack winter, TSL. Every other tournament where both sides participated, Koreans won.
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On June 05 2011 07:57 Torte de Lini wrote:Too slow. His gas is low too.
Against July, who is making so much mutas every game, it's suicide to not get thors imo.
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On June 05 2011 07:56 Pajegetc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 07:55 MrProb wrote:On June 05 2011 07:53 Heavenly wrote:On June 05 2011 07:51 Pajegetc wrote:On June 05 2011 07:49 Denzil wrote:On June 05 2011 07:46 Asshat wrote:On June 05 2011 07:37 Coolwhip wrote:On June 05 2011 07:35 Heavenly wrote:
MC was completely jetlagged. Confirmed in thread by the korean translator Milkis who was with them. He was the worst off out of all of them, when Tasteless took a nap inbetween casts, Losira almost fell asleep in his booth, and MMA slept 2 hours inbetween his matches. People who deny jetlag are just being delusional. I feel bad for defending Idra, but this is such a bad excuse. If these PROFESSIONAL gamers can't play properly because of jetlag, then they should travel earlier. MC was a last minute replacement bro. Kinda hard to travel earlier when you weren't even supposed to be there in the first place/ And none of them but Moon had experience with that much of a time difference. Losira/July/MMA were hanging out in bonfires the night they flew into the US while Moon was resting. So according to you this is no indication of Korean - Foreigner difference skill? Just accept that no matter what people will make excuses for when a foreigner beats a Korean. LOL this forum literally lives in a delusional world. They seriously think that jet lag, reported firsthand, is not a reason for suboptimal play. You could SEE Losira falling asleep in his booth and Tasteless talked on stream about how he had to go backstage and pass out for a while, hence why JP covered for him. This is just completely indisputable fact. Are you people seriously just too traumatized from Korea's domination from Brood War to admit the truth? Anyway, back to the game. I'm tired of arguing this with willfully ignorant people. Agree with this. I am a big fan of Idra and MC but landed on thursday, get a few hours rest then started playing on Friday is a toughest possible tournament preparation. Stop. Making. Excuses.
What excuses? The koreans are 14-2 in series won (bout to be 15-2 by the looks of this july sjow match) They're crushing even with the jetlag
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On June 05 2011 07:58 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:56 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:55 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:55 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:54 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:54 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:53 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:52 Drazerk wrote:
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8:10
Another Command centre on the way for Sjow
Combat shield finishing with siege tech starting
9:00 Blue flame hellions are killed by July's speedlings in the middle of the map 9:45 Sjow attacks the third base of July but loses his forces to speedlings 10:30 Planetary and missile towers are going up at Sjow's third
11:30 Air and melee attack +1 on the way for July along with his fourth 12:30 Sjow getting a starport and a sensor tower 13:10 Ebay is knocked down to the red but is repaired just in time 14:10 Armoury on the way for Sjow Fifth base and baneling speed on the way for July 15:00 Sjow loses his engineering bay 15:30 Great surround on the marines see their death to banelings
16:30
Thors now on the way for Sjow
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On June 05 2011 07:57 JethroMoney wrote:
Sjow has had some questionable marine control this series.
his everything is questionable this series  realy bad day it seems goo sjow!
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I feel like terrans have NO IDEA how to handle heavy muta harass...once the zerg gets like 15 muta its GG.
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Man, neither player is playing well in this series, but Sjow is just mediocre all over.
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On June 05 2011 07:58 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 07:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:56 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:55 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:55 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:54 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:54 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:53 Drazerk wrote:
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Blue flame hellions are killed by July's speedlings in the middle of the map
9:45 Sjow attacks the third base of July but loses his forces to speedlings 10:30 Planetary and missile towers are going up at Sjow's third
11:30 Air and melee attack +1 on the way for July along with his fourth 12:30 Sjow getting a starport and a sensor tower 13:10 Ebay is knocked down to the red but is repaired just in time 14:10 Armoury on the way for Sjow Fifth base and baneling speed on the way for July 15:00 Sjow loses his engineering bay 15:30 Great surround on the marines see their death to banelings 16:30 Thors now on the way for Sjow
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July has gotten maxxed
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July showing e-hwan timing.
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haha Thor is a little to late =/
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Only chance is now I feel, go sjow!
EDIT:Maybe Im wrong, July not controling well
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On June 05 2011 07:58 grush57 wrote:
I dont see why any terrans get thors against july. July always goes mutas.
edit: Nvm he getting them now.
Muta is standard in ZvT so nothing extraordinary imho.
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On June 05 2011 07:56 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 07:55 Mithriel wrote:
july floating like 2k minerals for a really long time that often happens as zerg when you're running dry on gas.
Probably because he STILL isnt mining gas from nat :D lol
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On June 05 2011 07:58 Roggay wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 07:57 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 05 2011 07:56 Roggay wrote:
Why no thors? :/ Too slow. His gas is low too. Against July, who is making so much mutas every game, it's suicide to not get thors imo.
Missile Turrets just do better right now. July is harassing with the mutas, not attacking head-on.
See?
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July is just playing around now. Play standard the rest of the tournament July and win this MLG.
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July's ahead but he needs to start making Infestors
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On June 05 2011 07:59 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 07:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:56 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:55 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:55 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:54 Drazerk wrote:On June 05 2011 07:54 Drazerk wrote:
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Sjow attacks the third base of July but loses his forces to speedlings 10:30 Planetary and missile towers are going up at Sjow's third
11:30 Air and melee attack +1 on the way for July along with his fourth 12:30 Sjow getting a starport and a sensor tower 13:10 Ebay is knocked down to the red but is repaired just in time 14:10 Armoury on the way for Sjow Fifth base and baneling speed on the way for July 15:00 Sjow loses his engineering bay 15:30 Great surround on the marines see their death to banelings 16:30 Thors now on the way for Sjow 17:00 July has gotten maxxed
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July attacks the base of Sjow but he holds
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the funny thing is .... sjow doesnt drop at all. wtf july is just having a field day with sjow now
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On June 05 2011 07:58 Silver777 wrote:
I feel like terrans have NO IDEA how to handle heavy muta harass...once the zerg gets like 15 muta its GG.
A lot of terrans know most from korea/eu though. Thors are pretty good against lots of muta's dunno why lots of terrans don't make 1 to leave in the base xD
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