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Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
June 04 2011 01:10 GMT
#1521
On June 04 2011 10:00 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 09:55 Fubi wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:42 FlyingZergling wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:37 Fubi wrote:
How does the extended series rule even remotely make any sense?

It's to ensure that a player actually wins more than the other player before he gets past them. Observe.

Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo3]
Idra has won twice.

If they meet again later and have another Bo3:
Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo3]
Idra-MC 4-0 total
Idra has won four times.

Nothing wrong there. But what if MC wins the second time?

Idra-MC 0-2. [Bo3]
Idra-MC 2-2 total
Idra has won twice and MC has won twice. Wait, they're even. Why is MC advancing?

See the logic?

Ok, now do it with the extended series rule.
Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo3]
Idra has won twice.

Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo7 Idra 2-0+]
Idra-MC 4-0 total
Idra has won four times. Ok.

And again, what happens if MC starts winning in the best of 7?

Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo7 Idra 2-0+]
Idra-MC 2-4 total
Idra has won two times. MC has won 4 times. MC won more, so he deserves to advance.

But the logic would only make sense if the whole tournament encompasses these two players. In reality you must consider the tournament as a whole.

If player A beats player B, player A is rewarded by advancing, player B is punished by being put into the loser's bracket. Player B won 0 set, lost 1, Player A won 1 set, lost 0 at this point. They are already rewarded and punished accordingly to their result at this point.

Now, if player A loses to player C in the winner's bracket, player A is punished by being put into the loser's. If player B advances in the losers to meet player A, they are now both on even grounds. Player A has 1 win 1 loss, player B has 1 win 1 loss. Why should player A get an advantage over player B at this point?


Very well put. Although the system is flawed, hopefully everything else runs smoothly.
I dont like extended series but this example player C could be the best player of the tournament and Player A has already beaten player B so that is not the same to me. The problem I have with it is where when you get to the final stages and often a loser is in the group stage or the semi final of the winners bracket. I would like a full series for the latter rounds.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
June 04 2011 01:10 GMT
#1522
This is boring...... Tastosis has much better dead-time banter... I want Tasteless ladder stories
mpf189
Profile Joined March 2011
332 Posts
June 04 2011 01:10 GMT
#1523
On June 04 2011 10:09 DystopiaX wrote:
Damn Sheth beat Kiwikaki


Wasn't expecting Kiwi to start out 0-2, but Sheth does have a good zvp
fatkid
Profile Joined August 2010
United States62 Posts
June 04 2011 01:10 GMT
#1524
On June 04 2011 10:10 Lolsss wrote:
If ur keyboard breaks u shouldnt get a restart u should get a d/q.

Your keyboard, your problem. makes no sense :/


Seriously ?

A player can't magically repair his keyboard.
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
June 04 2011 01:10 GMT
#1525
On June 04 2011 10:09 Alzadar wrote:
Why do they need to restart because of the keyboard? Can't they plug a new one in and keep going?


Might have to restart the computer for the new keyboard and/or drivers to take effect
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 04 2011 01:11 GMT
#1526
On June 04 2011 10:09 Sceptor87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 09:58 fatkid wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:56 Jayrod wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:54 Sceptor87 wrote:
This is the second time at MLG alone that BNet has decided to take a shit.

Hey Blizzard, thanks for the fantastic game that you obviously have no fucking idea with what you're doing.

Why are you even watching?


Because he wants to WATCH the game but is frustrated by the lack of LAN support?
Bingo.

There is no reason why, at this point in the lifespan of the game, they couldn't implement LAN. Especially when Blizzard is trying to get aboard the "e-Sports" train. The whole piracy argument is stupid. People will still pirate the game if they want, which is why last year SC2 had something like 3 million illegal downloads.

At this point it's either ignorance or sloth on their end, there is no other reason.

It makes piracy a hell of a lot harder though cause you'd still need to get/fake a bnet account. That 3mil could be a lot more.
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 01:13:32
June 04 2011 01:11 GMT
#1527
On June 04 2011 10:07 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 10:06 Belha wrote:
Ya, due to keyboard, sure...

Right, cause if the internet was fucked up they'd lie to us about it. Honestly, people here are being assholes about everything. They can't control a players' peripherals.

Yes, i think they lie becuase they can't fail again after what happened in Dallas, the pressure make some people lie and don't reveal the hard true. And btw, in not insulting anyone here, so have some respect or go to any other disrespectful forum.
Chicken gank op
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
June 04 2011 01:11 GMT
#1528
Good news... now we get to see a game that relies on actual skill rather than playing out of the box... BE HAPPY!!!!!
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 01:11:45
June 04 2011 01:11 GMT
#1529
On June 04 2011 10:09 Sceptor87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 09:58 fatkid wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:56 Jayrod wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:54 Sceptor87 wrote:
This is the second time at MLG alone that BNet has decided to take a shit.

Hey Blizzard, thanks for the fantastic game that you obviously have no fucking idea with what you're doing.

Why are you even watching?


Because he wants to WATCH the game but is frustrated by the lack of LAN support?
Bingo.

There is no reason why, at this point in the lifespan of the game, they couldn't implement LAN. Especially when Blizzard is trying to get aboard the "e-Sports" train. The whole piracy argument is stupid. People will still pirate the game if they want, which is why last year SC2 had something like 3 million illegal downloads.

At this point it's either ignorance or sloth on their end, there is no other reason.


I would be happy if they got some tournament servers, lan will not come soon,
I am not young enough to know everything.
tymt
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden293 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 01:12:44
June 04 2011 01:11 GMT
#1530
On June 04 2011 10:07 AdreN- wrote:
MLG fail yet again.

Red and Blue stream are the same thing (only one should be running if there is only one real stream going on)
Incontrol vs. LosirA (TT1 vs Jinro all over again)

Does the HD Pass even remove commercials by the way?


How is the stream thing even a problem? And how are they failing?
Stop bitching for bitchings sake. :>
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
June 04 2011 01:11 GMT
#1531
On June 04 2011 10:10 mpf189 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 10:09 DystopiaX wrote:
Damn Sheth beat Kiwikaki


Wasn't expecting Kiwi to start out 0-2, but Sheth does have a good zvp


Pretty sure ZvP is Sheth's best matchup.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 04 2011 01:12 GMT
#1532
Game One has restarted

In the Bottom right corner position is Incontrol

While located in the bottom left is Losira
Lolsss
Profile Joined April 2011
England106 Posts
June 04 2011 01:12 GMT
#1533
On June 04 2011 10:10 fatkid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 10:10 Lolsss wrote:
If ur keyboard breaks u shouldnt get a restart u should get a d/q.

Your keyboard, your problem. makes no sense :/


Seriously ?

A player can't magically repair his keyboard.


Why is it the opponents problem if u bring a shit keyboard? :/
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 04 2011 01:12 GMT
#1534
More lag? fuck you blizzard, Get lan damnit, or tournament server.
liftlift > tsm
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 04 2011 01:12 GMT
#1535
On June 04 2011 10:11 Belha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 10:07 DystopiaX wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:06 Belha wrote:
Ya, due to keyboard, sure...

Right, cause if the internet was fucked up they'd lie to us about it. Honestly, people here are being assholes about everything. They can't control a players' peripherals.

Yes, i think they lie becuase they can't fail again after what happened in Dallas, the pressure make some people lie and don't reveal the hard true. And btw, in not insulting anyone here, so have some respect or go to any other disrespectful forum.

Sorry, not directed specifically at you it's just really annoying to go into the Live report threads and have it full of people bitching about absolutely insignificant things.
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
June 04 2011 01:12 GMT
#1536
Sorry guys i just got up but can someone update me on why the blue stream isnt tastotis right now but its just another wheat day9?
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
June 04 2011 01:12 GMT
#1537
I wonder which nonexistent language LosirA's keyboard was typing in. Sounds like a good cryptographic generator!
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
June 04 2011 01:13 GMT
#1538
they are in the same building and still lags... LOL
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
June 04 2011 01:13 GMT
#1539
Poor InControl; he had a really good position there.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
June 04 2011 01:13 GMT
#1540
On June 04 2011 10:12 Lolsss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 10:10 fatkid wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:10 Lolsss wrote:
If ur keyboard breaks u shouldnt get a restart u should get a d/q.

Your keyboard, your problem. makes no sense :/


Seriously ?

A player can't magically repair his keyboard.


Why is it the opponents problem if u bring a shit keyboard? :/


a keyboard is like a tennis racquet. you don't just lose a tennis match if you break a racquet, you replace it.
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