• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:54
CEST 11:54
KST 18:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists22[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event8Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results02026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) SC2 INu's Battles#15 <BO.9 2Matches> WardiTV Spring Cup SEL Masters #6 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? [BSL22] RO16 Group B - Saturday 21:00 CEST BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1767 users

MLG Day 1 Red Stream Thread - Page 77

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 75 76 77 78 79 135 Next
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
June 04 2011 01:10 GMT
#1521
On June 04 2011 10:00 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 09:55 Fubi wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:42 FlyingZergling wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:37 Fubi wrote:
How does the extended series rule even remotely make any sense?

It's to ensure that a player actually wins more than the other player before he gets past them. Observe.

Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo3]
Idra has won twice.

If they meet again later and have another Bo3:
Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo3]
Idra-MC 4-0 total
Idra has won four times.

Nothing wrong there. But what if MC wins the second time?

Idra-MC 0-2. [Bo3]
Idra-MC 2-2 total
Idra has won twice and MC has won twice. Wait, they're even. Why is MC advancing?

See the logic?

Ok, now do it with the extended series rule.
Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo3]
Idra has won twice.

Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo7 Idra 2-0+]
Idra-MC 4-0 total
Idra has won four times. Ok.

And again, what happens if MC starts winning in the best of 7?

Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo7 Idra 2-0+]
Idra-MC 2-4 total
Idra has won two times. MC has won 4 times. MC won more, so he deserves to advance.

But the logic would only make sense if the whole tournament encompasses these two players. In reality you must consider the tournament as a whole.

If player A beats player B, player A is rewarded by advancing, player B is punished by being put into the loser's bracket. Player B won 0 set, lost 1, Player A won 1 set, lost 0 at this point. They are already rewarded and punished accordingly to their result at this point.

Now, if player A loses to player C in the winner's bracket, player A is punished by being put into the loser's. If player B advances in the losers to meet player A, they are now both on even grounds. Player A has 1 win 1 loss, player B has 1 win 1 loss. Why should player A get an advantage over player B at this point?


Very well put. Although the system is flawed, hopefully everything else runs smoothly.
I dont like extended series but this example player C could be the best player of the tournament and Player A has already beaten player B so that is not the same to me. The problem I have with it is where when you get to the final stages and often a loser is in the group stage or the semi final of the winners bracket. I would like a full series for the latter rounds.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
June 04 2011 01:10 GMT
#1522
This is boring...... Tastosis has much better dead-time banter... I want Tasteless ladder stories
mpf189
Profile Joined March 2011
332 Posts
June 04 2011 01:10 GMT
#1523
On June 04 2011 10:09 DystopiaX wrote:
Damn Sheth beat Kiwikaki


Wasn't expecting Kiwi to start out 0-2, but Sheth does have a good zvp
fatkid
Profile Joined August 2010
United States62 Posts
June 04 2011 01:10 GMT
#1524
On June 04 2011 10:10 Lolsss wrote:
If ur keyboard breaks u shouldnt get a restart u should get a d/q.

Your keyboard, your problem. makes no sense :/


Seriously ?

A player can't magically repair his keyboard.
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
June 04 2011 01:10 GMT
#1525
On June 04 2011 10:09 Alzadar wrote:
Why do they need to restart because of the keyboard? Can't they plug a new one in and keep going?


Might have to restart the computer for the new keyboard and/or drivers to take effect
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 04 2011 01:11 GMT
#1526
On June 04 2011 10:09 Sceptor87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 09:58 fatkid wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:56 Jayrod wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:54 Sceptor87 wrote:
This is the second time at MLG alone that BNet has decided to take a shit.

Hey Blizzard, thanks for the fantastic game that you obviously have no fucking idea with what you're doing.

Why are you even watching?


Because he wants to WATCH the game but is frustrated by the lack of LAN support?
Bingo.

There is no reason why, at this point in the lifespan of the game, they couldn't implement LAN. Especially when Blizzard is trying to get aboard the "e-Sports" train. The whole piracy argument is stupid. People will still pirate the game if they want, which is why last year SC2 had something like 3 million illegal downloads.

At this point it's either ignorance or sloth on their end, there is no other reason.

It makes piracy a hell of a lot harder though cause you'd still need to get/fake a bnet account. That 3mil could be a lot more.
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 01:13:32
June 04 2011 01:11 GMT
#1527
On June 04 2011 10:07 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 10:06 Belha wrote:
Ya, due to keyboard, sure...

Right, cause if the internet was fucked up they'd lie to us about it. Honestly, people here are being assholes about everything. They can't control a players' peripherals.

Yes, i think they lie becuase they can't fail again after what happened in Dallas, the pressure make some people lie and don't reveal the hard true. And btw, in not insulting anyone here, so have some respect or go to any other disrespectful forum.
Chicken gank op
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
June 04 2011 01:11 GMT
#1528
Good news... now we get to see a game that relies on actual skill rather than playing out of the box... BE HAPPY!!!!!
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 01:11:45
June 04 2011 01:11 GMT
#1529
On June 04 2011 10:09 Sceptor87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 09:58 fatkid wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:56 Jayrod wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:54 Sceptor87 wrote:
This is the second time at MLG alone that BNet has decided to take a shit.

Hey Blizzard, thanks for the fantastic game that you obviously have no fucking idea with what you're doing.

Why are you even watching?


Because he wants to WATCH the game but is frustrated by the lack of LAN support?
Bingo.

There is no reason why, at this point in the lifespan of the game, they couldn't implement LAN. Especially when Blizzard is trying to get aboard the "e-Sports" train. The whole piracy argument is stupid. People will still pirate the game if they want, which is why last year SC2 had something like 3 million illegal downloads.

At this point it's either ignorance or sloth on their end, there is no other reason.


I would be happy if they got some tournament servers, lan will not come soon,
I am not young enough to know everything.
tymt
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden293 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 01:12:44
June 04 2011 01:11 GMT
#1530
On June 04 2011 10:07 AdreN- wrote:
MLG fail yet again.

Red and Blue stream are the same thing (only one should be running if there is only one real stream going on)
Incontrol vs. LosirA (TT1 vs Jinro all over again)

Does the HD Pass even remove commercials by the way?


How is the stream thing even a problem? And how are they failing?
Stop bitching for bitchings sake. :>
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
June 04 2011 01:11 GMT
#1531
On June 04 2011 10:10 mpf189 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 10:09 DystopiaX wrote:
Damn Sheth beat Kiwikaki


Wasn't expecting Kiwi to start out 0-2, but Sheth does have a good zvp


Pretty sure ZvP is Sheth's best matchup.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 04 2011 01:12 GMT
#1532
Game One has restarted

In the Bottom right corner position is Incontrol

While located in the bottom left is Losira
Lolsss
Profile Joined April 2011
England106 Posts
June 04 2011 01:12 GMT
#1533
On June 04 2011 10:10 fatkid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 10:10 Lolsss wrote:
If ur keyboard breaks u shouldnt get a restart u should get a d/q.

Your keyboard, your problem. makes no sense :/


Seriously ?

A player can't magically repair his keyboard.


Why is it the opponents problem if u bring a shit keyboard? :/
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 04 2011 01:12 GMT
#1534
More lag? fuck you blizzard, Get lan damnit, or tournament server.
liftlift > tsm
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 04 2011 01:12 GMT
#1535
On June 04 2011 10:11 Belha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 10:07 DystopiaX wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:06 Belha wrote:
Ya, due to keyboard, sure...

Right, cause if the internet was fucked up they'd lie to us about it. Honestly, people here are being assholes about everything. They can't control a players' peripherals.

Yes, i think they lie becuase they can't fail again after what happened in Dallas, the pressure make some people lie and don't reveal the hard true. And btw, in not insulting anyone here, so have some respect or go to any other disrespectful forum.

Sorry, not directed specifically at you it's just really annoying to go into the Live report threads and have it full of people bitching about absolutely insignificant things.
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
June 04 2011 01:12 GMT
#1536
Sorry guys i just got up but can someone update me on why the blue stream isnt tastotis right now but its just another wheat day9?
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
June 04 2011 01:12 GMT
#1537
I wonder which nonexistent language LosirA's keyboard was typing in. Sounds like a good cryptographic generator!
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
June 04 2011 01:13 GMT
#1538
they are in the same building and still lags... LOL
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
June 04 2011 01:13 GMT
#1539
Poor InControl; he had a really good position there.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
June 04 2011 01:13 GMT
#1540
On June 04 2011 10:12 Lolsss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 10:10 fatkid wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:10 Lolsss wrote:
If ur keyboard breaks u shouldnt get a restart u should get a d/q.

Your keyboard, your problem. makes no sense :/


Seriously ?

A player can't magically repair his keyboard.


Why is it the opponents problem if u bring a shit keyboard? :/


a keyboard is like a tennis racquet. you don't just lose a tennis match if you break a racquet, you replace it.
Prev 1 75 76 77 78 79 135 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 88
Ryung 37
Rex 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Rush 432
Larva 392
Killer 372
Leta 279
Soma 186
ToSsGirL 178
PianO 145
Dewaltoss 116
EffOrt 78
Hm[arnc] 78
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 41
sorry 40
Sharp 37
IntoTheRainbow 22
NotJumperer 22
Sacsri 21
yabsab 21
NaDa 17
Shine 12
Terrorterran 6
Dota 2
XaKoH 776
XcaliburYe290
monkeys_forever216
NeuroSwarm134
Counter-Strike
zeus376
Other Games
singsing1700
WinterStarcraft657
B2W.Neo196
DeMusliM165
Livibee101
MindelVK22
Railgan21
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV257
StarCraft 2
IntoTheiNu 94
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream85
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1410
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
6m
herO vs TriGGeR
NightMare vs Solar
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4h 6m
BSL
9h 6m
IPSL
9h 6m
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Patches Events
14h 6m
Replay Cast
23h 6m
Wardi Open
1d
Afreeca Starleague
1d
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 14h
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
GSL
2 days
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
3 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
4 days
OSC
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Escore
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W5
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W6
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.