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Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
May 29 2011 01:35 GMT
#221
On May 29 2011 10:31 Hopkingreenfrog wrote:
why the fuck does this commenetator keep saying that CaTz was in an unwinnable position??

he has no fucking idea, he is horrible, CaTz was ahead/even most of the game...


Because he has the mindset that when zerg goes into a match against protoss they are already at a disadvantage, which isn't true in the slightest.
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
May 29 2011 01:35 GMT
#222
On May 29 2011 10:34 SnuggleZhenya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 10:33 Heavenly wrote:
On May 29 2011 10:31 Gatored wrote:
Mr. Bitter is so biased towards zerg. Unwinnable position? Uhhh, CatZ was never in an unwinnable position that game. Less bias please.


He was, MC threw it away, definitely through lag. Being even supply and even harvesters to the protoss when he has stalker/colossi. And now Gretorp and Incontrol will scream about how Catz took a game off MC when it's obviously because of lag, like almost every game you see a foreigner win versus a Korean in the NASL.


The critical moment is when they traded thirds in my opinion, and that was pure decision making, nothing to do with lag.


He was playing with blink stalkers/sentries/collosal micro at 500ms. Of course lag matters.
jackdaleaper
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines1216 Posts
May 29 2011 01:35 GMT
#223
On May 29 2011 10:32 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 10:31 jackdaleaper wrote:
On May 29 2011 10:28 mistgun_EU wrote:
no sentries = no win


This. That was a strange decision by MC.


MC can win without sentries... I think he relied too much on his micro, and disregarded lag. Careless by him.


I dunno... roach/hydra corruptor vs gateway/colossus/phoenix with no sentries? Even with great micro that's a hard fight for protoss. I mean, why make it harder when you can win easy?
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 29 2011 01:35 GMT
#224
cancel assim + get forge, gg?
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
May 29 2011 01:36 GMT
#225
On May 29 2011 10:33 Juanald wrote:
ive told people for a while now haypro moOnglades and catz were top 3 zergs but noone wanted to hear it


I'm so hoping that was sarcasm.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
May 29 2011 01:36 GMT
#226
On May 29 2011 10:35 L3g3nd_ wrote:
cancel assim + get forge, gg?




I hope not ;__;

Can Catz still come back? What would he have to do?
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
May 29 2011 01:36 GMT
#227
Whenever a korean wins in an online event = Gosu

Whenever a foreigner beats a korean in an online event = lag

I really don't know why everyone whined for koreans in the NASL. Every win a foreigner gets over them is pretty much worthless apparently.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 29 2011 01:36 GMT
#228
no cancel? hmmmm
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 29 2011 01:36 GMT
#229
On May 29 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote:
On May 29 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three is about to start on Shattered Temple

The series is Tied 1-1


The game has now started

Catz is positioned at the 3 o clock position

While MC is at the 12


2:20

The probe of MC arrives as the Drone of Catz places his 15 hatch


3:20

Forge is on the way for MC zealot is charging across the map

Drones are pulled as a pylon is places in the mineral line of Catz
Absentia
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom973 Posts
May 29 2011 01:36 GMT
#230
And this is why you shouldn't go hatch first ZvP....
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
May 29 2011 01:36 GMT
#231
On May 29 2011 10:33 mindspike wrote:
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On May 29 2011 10:32 MechKing wrote:
On May 29 2011 10:31 Hopkingreenfrog wrote:
why the fuck does this commenetator keep saying that CaTz was in an unwinnable position??

he has no fucking idea, he is horrible, CaTz was ahead/even most of the game...

He's a master's Zerg player, I'm pretty sure he knows more than you do.


Master's or no masters he screwed up that cast.

Theoretically, as long as you have a drone and a hatchery, you can win any game. But Catz really shouldn't have been able to win from that position. But MC made some mistakes and Catz played amazingly and the miracle happened.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 29 2011 01:37 GMT
#232
On May 29 2011 10:36 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:
On May 29 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote:
On May 29 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three is about to start on Shattered Temple

The series is Tied 1-1


The game has now started

Catz is positioned at the 3 o clock position

While MC is at the 12


2:20

The probe of MC arrives as the Drone of Catz places his 15 hatch


3:20

Forge is on the way for MC zealot is charging across the map

Drones are pulled as a pylon is places in the mineral line of Catz


4:30

Cannons go up for MC but Catz does not Cancel his natural

Roach warren is now on the way
Exhale-
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada103 Posts
May 29 2011 01:37 GMT
#233
On May 29 2011 10:36 TheHova wrote:
Whenever a korean wins in an online event = Gosu

Whenever a foreigner beats a korean in an online event = lag

I really don't know why everyone whined for koreans in the NASL. Every win a foreigner gets over them is pretty much worthless apparently.


It's so true, just wait till MLG, I guarentee you people will say lag if a korean loses in that tourney.
gogo Mvp!!
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
May 29 2011 01:37 GMT
#234
Poor catz.. this is not looking good :/
Juanald
Profile Joined February 2011
United States354 Posts
May 29 2011 01:37 GMT
#235
On May 29 2011 10:36 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 10:33 Juanald wrote:
ive told people for a while now haypro moOnglades and catz were top 3 zergs but noone wanted to hear it


I'm so hoping that was sarcasm.


why would it be sarcasm did you see the last game or did you just come here to troll
"hey it could happen!" ~ angels n the outfield
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 29 2011 01:37 GMT
#236
On May 29 2011 10:37 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 10:36 Drazerk wrote:
On May 29 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote:
On May 29 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote:
On May 29 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three is about to start on Shattered Temple

The series is Tied 1-1


The game has now started

Catz is positioned at the 3 o clock position

While MC is at the 12


2:20

The probe of MC arrives as the Drone of Catz places his 15 hatch


3:20

Forge is on the way for MC zealot is charging across the map

Drones are pulled as a pylon is places in the mineral line of Catz


4:30

Cannons go up for MC but Catz does not Cancel his natural

Roach warren is now on the way


6:30

Catz loses 7 drones to 2 zealots in his mineral line

Catz is getting a fast lair now
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 29 2011 01:37 GMT
#237
On May 29 2011 10:36 Z3kk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 10:35 L3g3nd_ wrote:
cancel assim + get forge, gg?




I hope not ;__;

Can Catz still come back? What would he have to do?

pretty much from here MC has to screw up.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 29 2011 01:38 GMT
#238
On May 29 2011 10:37 Exhale- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 10:36 TheHova wrote:
Whenever a korean wins in an online event = Gosu

Whenever a foreigner beats a korean in an online event = lag

I really don't know why everyone whined for koreans in the NASL. Every win a foreigner gets over them is pretty much worthless apparently.


It's so true, just wait till MLG, I guarentee you people will say lag if a korean loses in that tourney.

Jet lag all the way bro
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Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
May 29 2011 01:38 GMT
#239
The game aside, this commentary is like reading a LR thread on TL. "Roach/Hydra/Corrupter can't win vs Protoss, Catz lost because he's on even supply, blablabla". Seriously, this game isn't that simple. :/
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
May 29 2011 01:38 GMT
#240
On May 29 2011 10:36 TheHova wrote:
Whenever a korean wins in an online event = Gosu

Whenever a foreigner beats a korean in an online event = lag

I really don't know why everyone whined for koreans in the NASL. Every win a foreigner gets over them is pretty much worthless apparently.

Because lag exists and also koreans have beaten foreigners in all the offlien tournaments.
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