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thekibk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 06:14:54
May 19 2011 06:00 GMT
#861
On May 19 2011 14:50 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 14:15 TheArtOfFugue wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:17 AltF4Gate wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:14 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:13 AltF4Gate wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:11 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
Why do random people bash pros? How many real, big tournaments have you played in and done well? How many games do you play perfectly? None? Really? Shocking. Shut up and stop critiquing players who are better than you.


I hope you've never talked badly about a football player unless you play in the premier league
or a news reader unless you've been on TV and read the news.

etc. etc.

I haven't. I don't watch football.


Spectators can have their own opinion regardless of how stupid or shitty it is. They can bash all they want and you literally can't do anything about it.


Sure they can and they do... it's still extremely stupid and so is your argument. Best analogy is a fat dude on his couch complaining that an "athlete" should "run faster, be perfect at all times". Which is precisely what you just did.

so its wrong for me to complain about a guy doing terrible at his job? i am extremely stupid for saying george clooney was terrible in batman an robin?

i watch sc2 to be entertained and when there is bad play i am not entertained and i will complain. i want the best product possible and certain players keep that from being produced.


I think it's more the extent that people go to, to bash them pros. I'm not a fan of posts that call players like Artosis or Grubby fucking terrible, even if their level of play is sub-par to someone like Sheth. it's ruthless critism for the sake of being an ass, and it's not very respectable. saying that it was disappointing, or commenting on the bad play is understandable.
Corn is no place for a mighty warrior!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 06:03:57
May 19 2011 06:01 GMT
#862
On May 19 2011 15:00 thekibk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 14:50 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 19 2011 14:15 TheArtOfFugue wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:17 AltF4Gate wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:14 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:13 AltF4Gate wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:11 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
Why do random people bash pros? How many real, big tournaments have you played in and done well? How many games do you play perfectly? None? Really? Shocking. Shut up and stop critiquing players who are better than you.


I hope you've never talked badly about a football player unless you play in the premier league
or a news reader unless you've been on TV and read the news.

etc. etc.

I haven't. I don't watch football.


Spectators can have their own opinion regardless of how stupid or shitty it is. They can bash all they want and you literally can't do anything about it.


Sure they can and they do... it's still extremely stupid and so is your argument. Best analogy is a fat dude on his couch complaining that an "athlete" should "run faster, be perfect at all times". Which is precisely what you just did.

so its wrong for me to complain about a guy doing terrible at his job? i am extremely stupid for saying george clooney was terrible in batman an robin?

i watch sc2 to be entertained and when there is bad play i am not entertained and i will complain. i want the best product possible and certain players keep that from being produced.


I think it's more the extent that people go to, to bash them pros. I'm not a fan of posts that call players like Artosis or Grubby fucking terrible, even if there level of play is sub-par to someone like sheth. it's ruthless critism for the sake of being an ass, and it's not very respectable. saying that was disappointing, or commenting on the bad play is understandable.


i agree there is no need to be an ass, but the thought that because im not a pro means that i cant say grubby played terrible is just wrong. by that logic i cant say that thorzain played great throughout the tsl because im not a pro.
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thekibk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States116 Posts
May 19 2011 06:09 GMT
#863
On May 19 2011 15:01 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 15:00 thekibk wrote:
On May 19 2011 14:50 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 19 2011 14:15 TheArtOfFugue wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:17 AltF4Gate wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:14 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:13 AltF4Gate wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:11 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
Why do random people bash pros? How many real, big tournaments have you played in and done well? How many games do you play perfectly? None? Really? Shocking. Shut up and stop critiquing players who are better than you.


I hope you've never talked badly about a football player unless you play in the premier league
or a news reader unless you've been on TV and read the news.

etc. etc.

I haven't. I don't watch football.


Spectators can have their own opinion regardless of how stupid or shitty it is. They can bash all they want and you literally can't do anything about it.


Sure they can and they do... it's still extremely stupid and so is your argument. Best analogy is a fat dude on his couch complaining that an "athlete" should "run faster, be perfect at all times". Which is precisely what you just did.

so its wrong for me to complain about a guy doing terrible at his job? i am extremely stupid for saying george clooney was terrible in batman an robin?

i watch sc2 to be entertained and when there is bad play i am not entertained and i will complain. i want the best product possible and certain players keep that from being produced.


I think it's more the extent that people go to, to bash them pros. I'm not a fan of posts that call players like Artosis or Grubby fucking terrible, even if there level of play is sub-par to someone like sheth. it's ruthless critism for the sake of being an ass, and it's not very respectable. saying that was disappointing, or commenting on the bad play is understandable.


i agree there is no need to be an ass, but the thought that because im not a pro means that i cant say grubby played terrible is just wrong. by that logic i cant say that thorzain played great throughout the tsl because im not a pro.


Yeah, totally ture.
and it would be a sin not to say Thorzain played godly.
Corn is no place for a mighty warrior!
Coolwhip
Profile Joined March 2011
927 Posts
May 19 2011 06:52 GMT
#864
Ouch Grubby lost to Artosis? That's just bad. Artosis just started <_<
EllipZ
Profile Joined May 2011
France378 Posts
May 19 2011 06:59 GMT
#865
woot gj Artosis <3
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
May 19 2011 07:05 GMT
#866
Artosis winning a match ? The earth is gonna spin the other way around now oO
The legend of Darien lives on
Samp
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada783 Posts
May 19 2011 07:14 GMT
#867
Artosis proving us why hes the best =)!
Banelings, "They're cute, they live in a nest". -Artosis
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
May 19 2011 07:15 GMT
#868
wow didnt expect artosis to pull it off
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
May 19 2011 07:22 GMT
#869
When do VODs normally go up? I missed the artosis match
i wear a kitten scarf
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
May 19 2011 08:35 GMT
#870
On May 19 2011 16:22 Imbajoe wrote:
When do VODs normally go up? I missed the artosis match


After EU restream
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 19 2011 08:37 GMT
#871
Wow, good job Artosis! Here's hoping there's ,ore wins where that came from.
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
May 19 2011 08:50 GMT
#872
On May 19 2011 14:56 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 13:44 TheArtOfFugue wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:04 Seide wrote:
terrible play from both players.
Grubby, what the hell?
Artosis, where yo macro at, that was pitiful.


Come on dude, you are in bronze league.... keep your stupid comments to yourself.

You don't have to be in Masters to realize that the matches were terrible. A lot of people watch lots of Starcraft and just don't play much. Someone who watches the game and doesn't play it can tell you that having minerals floating around 800, a ton of unspent chronoboost and blinking into Zealots are not good things to do. Do you really think those are stupid comments? If so, look in the mirror there son.


You know protoss are going to have floating resources? Imagine you have 5 gates.
How much do 5 stalkers cost? 725 minerals and 250 gas.

Think about that.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
May 19 2011 08:59 GMT
#873
from watching Artosis stream this morning really suprised he beat grubby 2-0, just seem so error prone in his play. What were the games like?? looks like Grubby is deffiantly go to end up bottom of their group!!
Live and Let Die!
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
May 19 2011 09:53 GMT
#874
On May 19 2011 11:13 snifit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 11:07 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:06 Whitewing wrote:
The sad thing is, Artosis' macro was terrible, looked like platinum level play macro wise. Didn't use chrono boost at all, wasn't making probes while stockpiling tons of money after fast expanding, and fell behind in econ -_-. If Grubby hadn't attacked up that choke stupidly, he would have won easily, Artosis just wasn't making anywhere near as much stuff as he should have been.


His macro was bad but "platinum level" is such a wild hyperbole.


I'm platinum and my macro is better than what he showed in the Crevasse game. It's not hyperbole at all.


Then go reach master league and take a game off grubby oO
Dodge arrows
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
May 19 2011 10:05 GMT
#875
Artosis :>
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
enrOo
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland23 Posts
May 19 2011 10:49 GMT
#876
ARTOSIS TO OWN THE SCENE LETSGOOOOO ARTOSISPYLONS EVEYWEREE
i am become death, the destroyer of worlds. For Our Utopia
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
May 19 2011 10:50 GMT
#877
On May 19 2011 11:13 snifit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 11:07 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:06 Whitewing wrote:
The sad thing is, Artosis' macro was terrible, looked like platinum level play macro wise. Didn't use chrono boost at all, wasn't making probes while stockpiling tons of money after fast expanding, and fell behind in econ -_-. If Grubby hadn't attacked up that choke stupidly, he would have won easily, Artosis just wasn't making anywhere near as much stuff as he should have been.


His macro was bad but "platinum level" is such a wild hyperbole.


I'm platinum and my macro is better than what he showed in the Crevasse game. It's not hyperbole at all.


Thats absolutely ridiculous. If you can't get out of platinum, most likely you just don't see how flawed your own macro is.

Its a different world playing the game yourself and watching someone else do it.
Uquu
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland474 Posts
May 19 2011 10:54 GMT
#878
Its great to see Rainbow and Artosis winning also, only if Grubby would do win also. :>
|| Thorzain || Grubby || NesTea || Jaedong || Flash || Ferrari_430 ||
cENTRYZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway832 Posts
May 19 2011 11:16 GMT
#879
GuineaPig + DRG winning the finals for MVP, you heard it here first.
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
May 19 2011 11:25 GMT
#880
How were the Artosis vs Grubby games? 4Gates?
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