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Euclid
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada126 Posts
April 13 2011 16:55 GMT
#4681
I'm in NA. Watched it last night in 1080 with zero lag. Just tuned in again after hearing about the lag problems and zero lag here again on 1080 :S, watching via the nasl.tv website btw.
Teradur
Profile Joined April 2010
97 Posts
April 13 2011 16:55 GMT
#4682
Weird thing is, for me the lag stopped for the second time as soon as the game was over.
Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
April 13 2011 16:55 GMT
#4683
Can i ask why is it possible to watch the EU rebroadcast without premium? :S
I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work the luckier I am.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
April 13 2011 16:55 GMT
#4684
Lag disappears once game ends??
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
April 13 2011 16:56 GMT
#4685
Its 100% lagfree for me now. Lets see what happens if the next game starts.
workers, supply, money, workers, supply, money, workers, ...
Hjertify
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden70 Posts
April 13 2011 16:56 GMT
#4686
lagged like hell for the first game have been getting better and better as time goes and is almost perfect for me now.
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blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 16:57:00
April 13 2011 16:56 GMT
#4687
On April 14 2011 01:55 Art.FeeL wrote:
Can i ask why is it possible to watch the EU rebroadcast without premium? :S

Because premium is for 1080p and VODs. The <1080p stream is free.
Doz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States145 Posts
April 13 2011 16:56 GMT
#4688
Want to toss in my two cents both on last night, and of some other posts.

First, to the NASL: For a first day launch I think you guys did a really good job.
The Good:
-The low-quality stream largely ran just fine for me with only 2-3 little lag hiccups in the 2 hours I watched of it. Not bad at all for a first day supporting the number of viewers you had. Keep it up!
-The casting was overall pretty good.
-The games were pretty awesome, particularly in the Grubby vs. Moon matchup. You have collected a pretty epic list of players for this League and I'm excited to watch as many of the other games as I can.
-I don't have any problems paying $25 for the premium package. Keep it this way.

Room for improvement:
-Transitions and audio were a bit off, and the audio a bit loud at times. I'm sure you're already aware and will work to resolve those issues.
-The "View Chat" button on the webpage wouldn't work for me last night. Would click and nothing would happen, even having pop/ad-blockers turned off. Maybe this was just me though as no one else seems to have mentioned it so far.
-Eventually, I would prefer a short 2-3 minute commercial break between games that didn't overlap the commentary. This might just take time though until the proper amount of sponsorship comes in, but it's during those important times the next game gets hyped up!
-From the sounds of other responses so far, it would be nice to eventually have VOD's available at less than 1080p. I have 15mbs internet that could handle it fine, but I know that's not the case for many others around the world.

Response to other posts:
There are quite a number of people complaining that NASL thus far isn't close enough in likeness to TSL, MLG, GOMTV, etc. Simply put, it's not TSL, MLG, or GOMTV. Furthermore, yesterday was day 1 of a totally new project. They haven't had years of experience and learning from brood war days (think GSL and Korean broadcasting) to hammer out all the smallest details and make everything perfect yet. Don't write off the NASL simply because it didn't have a sublime opening day. I'm sure they'll get their flame sputtering devices on a stage in due time...

More and more these days it seems like many people have some expectation of getting the best of everything for free when in reality, there's no such thing as a free lunch, and it frustrates me to no end. From working in finance every day, I can tell you there is a lot more expense involved in a project of this scope than you might first think. So if there aren't enough advertisers yet to pony up the dough for you, don't complain because you're NOT entitled to the content anyway. And come on kids, it's $8.33 a month we're talking about. For me that's a pack and half of cigarettes, 1/6 a tank of gas, 1 lunch eating out at work, or less than the texting plan on my cell phone a month. Even in high school I could have afforded that easily from my $6/hour job. So either pay up the chump change until the league gets enough recognition, or don't complain. 'Nough said.


NASL, keep up the good work, I believe in your business venture and wish you the best of luck. I wish I could have gotten involved in the project from the ground up and can't wait to see what else you produce!
Check out my map thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192306
gnutz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany666 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 16:57:58
April 13 2011 16:57 GMT
#4689
On April 14 2011 01:52 -Ziggy- wrote:
Yeah like, are people forgetting that almost all SC2 streams are on Justin.tv nowadays? Their streams works fine in EU, their VODs take ages to load though. But the streams are usually solid, especially with as few viewers as this. There's obviously something that's gone wrong with the recording they are rebroadcasting.

No. Justin.tv Streams are usually laggy in Europe. Couldn't watch dreahack fine, i could not even watch Take Tv and some other german streams anymore.
But it seems it depends on the time, mostly it lags at afternoon, then stops at night.

But honestly i don't blame NASL. Stream gets better and better also.

But i blame them to start too early. Whhhyyyyy?
DX_4
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany180 Posts
April 13 2011 16:57 GMT
#4690
On April 14 2011 01:55 Art.FeeL wrote:
Can i ask why is it possible to watch the EU rebroadcast without premium? :S

You can watch both the original stream and the rebroadcast without premium, the difference is the quality available for the stream and VoD access 24/7.
There is no spoon
rezooN
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2 Posts
April 13 2011 16:57 GMT
#4691
Is it just me that have horrible lag during the games, but when they are sending from the studio the lag stops completely? Kinda strange imo.
Me1234
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany219 Posts
April 13 2011 16:57 GMT
#4692
I reall dont know what you changed, I watched most of US stream live without any problems and now I tuned into the EU stream just to see how it runs and it looks choppy like hell to me
Uhm?
PraetorianX
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden780 Posts
April 13 2011 16:58 GMT
#4693
I think it's ridiculous that not only does the stream not exist on NASL.tv, but there is not even any mention or link to the actual stream. What the hell are these people doing?
The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter - Winston Churchill
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
April 13 2011 16:58 GMT
#4694
Seems fine now.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
April 13 2011 16:58 GMT
#4695
Why they started 1 hour earlier?... man i wanted to watch it from the start.
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
April 13 2011 16:58 GMT
#4696
what the hell, according to the schedule it should start now oh well
Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
April 13 2011 16:58 GMT
#4697
On April 14 2011 01:56 blackone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 01:55 Art.FeeL wrote:
Can i ask why is it possible to watch the EU rebroadcast without premium? :S

Because premium is for 1080p and VODs. The <1080p stream is free.


aaa ok thank you very much
I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work the luckier I am.
-Ziggy-
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden97 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 17:01:44
April 13 2011 16:59 GMT
#4698
On April 14 2011 01:57 gnutz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 01:52 -Ziggy- wrote:
Yeah like, are people forgetting that almost all SC2 streams are on Justin.tv nowadays? Their streams works fine in EU, their VODs take ages to load though. But the streams are usually solid, especially with as few viewers as this. There's obviously something that's gone wrong with the recording they are rebroadcasting.

No. Justin.tv Streams are usually laggy in Europe. Couldn't watch dreahack fine, i could not even watch Take Tv and some other german streams anymore.
But it seems it depends on the time, mostly it lags at afternoon, then stops at night.

I spend at least 4 hours a day on streams and I have never seen lag like this. There's 2k viewers and full HD is not even available to all of them, there's obviously something else going on rather than just some sort of NA -> EU Justin.tv stream lag. Especially since Europeans in this thread are reporting the same thing as the NA viewers that saw the stream when it was actually live.
roosten
Profile Joined August 2010
125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 16:59:32
April 13 2011 16:59 GMT
#4699
On April 14 2011 01:57 rezooN wrote:
Is it just me that have horrible lag during the games, but when they are sending from the studio the lag stops completely? Kinda strange imo.


In the studio it's a fixed camera angle with very little movement on screen, so it's very low bandwidth to broadcast that. In the game by contrast the entire scene can change in a single frame, which is high bandwidth.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
April 13 2011 16:59 GMT
#4700
shame that for whatever there's lag when casting in-game but no lag when showing the studio

anyways, Game 3 between Grubby and Moon is good. not the most high level play but still a very entertaining game.
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