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h0munkulus
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1481 Posts
April 15 2010 20:46 GMT
#261
On April 16 2010 05:44 rauk wrote:
i think you call that a "secret expo"


of course that was the idea. doesn't change the fact that it's stupid. just makes no sense if you look at "risk-reward"...
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
April 15 2010 20:50 GMT
#262
If the rest of HasuObs game matched his unit control (which is very good) he'd be a much better play, imo.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-15 20:57:11
April 15 2010 20:54 GMT
#263
why's it stupid? demuslim scans, sees no expo, expects that hasu is going all-in 3warp robo or whatever and prepares accordingly when hasu is actually macroing. i will agree that taking the natural of 12 o'clock was a bad idea though, or possibly just unlucky, since i think demuslim only saw the nexus being warped in at the natural and still had no idea of the main at 12 until he actually got there?
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
April 15 2010 20:56 GMT
#264
When exactly will Day[9] cast the replays? What does he mean by "later"? TT
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-15 21:01:33
April 15 2010 21:01 GMT
#265
On April 16 2010 05:54 rauk wrote:
why's it stupid? demuslim scans, sees no expo, expects that hasu is going all-in 3warp robo or whatever and prepares accordingly when hasu is actually macroing. i will agree that taking the natural of 12 o'clock was a bad idea though.


I think you're over analyzing HasuObs play a little. demuslim expanded with 3 bunkers, it's not likely he's going to invest more into static D if he thinks his opponent is doing a robo all in.

Hasu probably just didn't want his expansion getting cliffed even though positionally it was unlikely to happen. Expanding to another main isn't as big a deal as it was in sc, the maps are smaller, the need to transfer the perfect amount of probes is not there, you can warp to your expo if you want etc.

He just played too aggressive and lost. A lot of players still do this
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
April 15 2010 21:03 GMT
#266
I don't pretend to speak for day9, but he's on the phone with livestream support right now. He's probably rather ticked off with them at the moment, I'm sure he'll let everyone know when he'll be covering the replays as soon as possible.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
April 15 2010 21:08 GMT
#267
On April 16 2010 06:03 Martijn wrote:
I don't pretend to speak for day9, but he's on the phone with livestream support right now. He's probably rather ticked off with them at the moment, I'm sure he'll let everyone know when he'll be covering the replays as soon as possible.


he mentioned that he had some guy from livestream.com actually watching the stream while he was broadcasting to diagnose the problems. and considering how much traffic that site gets from starcraft I'd say they're eager to solve the problem.

he also said that he was not angry at livestream, that he had been in contact with their support all day yesterday and he said they were really kind and really was trying to help him with his problems.
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
April 15 2010 21:12 GMT
#268
On April 16 2010 06:08 Julmust wrote:
he also said that he was not angry at livestream, that he had been in contact with their support all day yesterday and he said they were really kind and really was trying to help him with his problems.

On April 16 2010 05:30 Day[9] wrote:
Either way, I'm pissed as fuck that livestream crapped out on me.


Not that it matters, they're doing their best, he's doing his best. It's a best-effort service.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 15 2010 21:26 GMT
#269
On April 16 2010 05:28 3nickma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 05:27 HazMat wrote:
Starcraft needs to switch the justin.tv
It's much more stable.

+ Show Spoiler +
Plus, Iphone users can watch the stream


Seriously Justin.tv works on the iPhone?? Nice switch immediatly so I can watch it there too if needed


Yeah, download the Justin.tv app.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
April 15 2010 21:57 GMT
#270
honestly, do any europeans still have issues with justin.tv? Cause I live in germany and I never had any problems with it.
beep boop
sur_reaL
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada278 Posts
April 15 2010 22:10 GMT
#271
justin.tv only allows a certain amount of people per country viewing on a stream unless you have $$$
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH3hrtp1T84
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
April 15 2010 22:12 GMT
#272
On April 16 2010 07:10 sur_reaL wrote:
justin.tv only allows a certain amount of people per country viewing on a stream unless you have $$$


exactly, and that fucking sucks
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
April 15 2010 22:23 GMT
#273
On April 16 2010 07:12 Julmust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 07:10 sur_reaL wrote:
justin.tv only allows a certain amount of people per country viewing on a stream unless you have $$$


exactly, and that fucking sucks

O_o ok well thats retarded
weird though that I've heard problems from europe then, sounds like the US would be the country with the most problems
beep boop
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
April 15 2010 22:25 GMT
#274
Ustream is probably the best streaming service except they have their logo in the top right corner.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
April 16 2010 04:01 GMT
#275
Hasuobs get what he deserves for not making early zelot and stalker on a 2 player map. Kinda cheese from demuslim tho, but when you know your opponent play really greedy i guess you can do this shit.
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 13:37:54
April 16 2010 12:27 GMT
#276
It's going to be a busy day today.
April 16 19:30 CEST, 1:30pm EDT, Strelok vs Nazgul
April 16 20:00 CEST, 2:00pm EDT, DeMusliM vs Jinro
April 16 21:00 CEST, 3:00pm EDT, Ret vs Nazgul

I'm pretty sure the matches will overlap. I guess the best option is to cover the first and third game. Unfortunate though, I'd love to cast some TvT, especially these two.

On the other hand Strelok never seems to fail to impress. What do you think we'll see from him? Thor drop play? Banshee harass? Maybe he'll pull out an early Reaper depending on the map? Strelok always seems to play ruthlessly, playing to win and punishing everything mistake. If you don't scout him again and again, you'll have lost in no time.
Nazgul on the other hand excels at the opposite, he's been playing by the book and shows us why standard is considered "standard". Namely because in the hands of a strong player, standard becomes monstrous. Playing against him must be like battling quicksand, he replies correctly to your every move and you get caught up in his pace sinking away more and more. He seems to be favoring sentries highly in PvP and PvZ, how would those hold up in PvT though.. Especially with more mech heavy builds lately and T's harassment options that aren't stopped by ramps. Maybe he'll opt to strike first?

If we'd have to describe the match-up in that outrageous Korean terminology, it would have to be.. The Terran Trickster vs The Protoss Bible!

Ret vs Nazgul on the other hand. Ret is considered the best Dutch sc player by many, but how has he been holding up in sc2? Has he been practicing as heavily as some of these other players. He was knocked out in the quarter finals of the Steelseries Bescene Benelux only tournament, Nazgul took revenge for the Dutch crowd by destroying the player that beat Ret in the finals and won the tournament. Can we say that puts the definitive Dutch sc gosu Ret in an underdog position vs Nazgul in sc2? Or will he show us he's on top of the recently rapidly evolving and changing zerg play.

That's how I see the games with my limited game-sense in any case.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 13:38:50
April 16 2010 13:37 GMT
#277
we'll see how it goes. nevertheless, nazgul never fails to entertain so i'm happy there are two matches with him this evening.
i'm not sure how much motivation ret got to train and belong to the absolute top players in sc2; naz mentioned he might have some kind of rts burn out after korea and as he has not found the passion for sc2 that he got for sc1 yet i'm not sure he has the best chances.

only judged by (recent) performance i would say demuslim >> jinro, but jinro sometimes has really cute builds that might surprise in this match up.

strelok was 2:0'ed by socke in the nations war so tvp might not be his top match up... i'm excited.
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 15:13:53
April 16 2010 13:40 GMT
#278
Yeah, it seems most top level Terans are struggling in TvP as it is. Strelok seems to resort to harassment a lot vs P.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Ganondorf
Profile Joined April 2010
Italy600 Posts
April 16 2010 14:49 GMT
#279
I just watched the replays from Demuslim vs Hasuobs and

+ Show Spoiler +

noticed that Demuslim did the 4-rax FE in the first game and a cheesy 6rax/refinery in the second, which were strats suggested on this forum, it seems he liked them after all, and they worked :D I think that's how TvP is to be played. Hasuobs didn't counter the FE with colossi in the first game on lt and did a 13 (or 14?) gateway on steppes of war, something protoss will not get away with anymore. I wonder what demuslim thinks now of TvP, if it's still broken or it just needs some minor adjustements.
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
April 16 2010 14:58 GMT
#280
it's still broke
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