On October 28 2008 00:30 Uraeus wrote:
Yeah but Fantasy's TvZ was quite dismal actually. And then he met GGPlay.
And besides, remember Jaedong's ZvP before facing Stork in the OSL final...

quite, and with best and bisu to train with and oov apparently a big part of his training now, I'm expecting an exciting series..

fusionsdf

Canada15390 Posts

October 27 2008 15:52 GMT

#32

On October 28 2008 00:30 Uraeus wrote:
Yeah but Fantasy's TvZ was quite dismal actually. And then he met GGPlay.
And besides, remember Jaedong's ZvP before facing Stork in the OSL final...

and bisu vs savior

I'm expecting a good performance from fantasy, but he'll have to come up with something cute for pvt, or really work on his mechanics.

I havent been super impressed with either his micro or macro

Purind

Canada3562 Posts

October 27 2008 16:11 GMT

#33

On October 27 2008 21:37 Paddington wrote:
Stork is insanely good form right now... And fantasy, no disrespect to him, is not as strong an opponent as Jaedong, Bisu or Flash when they came up against Stork. Also, Stork's playing stronger than ever before. He SHOULD take the OSL.

Yeah, but in the case of Jaedong, we didn't know how good his ZvP was (it had been terrible up until that point).

On October 28 2008 00:22 fusionsdf wrote:
I've never even heard of fantasy's tvp

and hes up against arguably the best pvt in the world

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

hmmmmmmm indeed. Who had heard of Mind's TvP when he beat Bisu in the MSL final a few seasons ago?

This is tough to call. I'm gonna say Fantasy gets outplayed the entire series but somehow wins it 3-2

fusionsdf

Canada15390 Posts

October 27 2008 16:28 GMT

#34

I'd heard of minds tvp

I'd heard (and watched) a lot

it was tvz that was his untested/bad matchup. He was a lot like midas in that he was known more for his tvp than tvz. If you watched some of his replays, it was surprising he beat bisu, but it wasnt completely out of left field.

I mean its a similar story with jaedong. He wasnt known for his zvp, thats for sure, but he was already known for his dominant play. And stork wasnt known for his dominant pvz any more than jaedong for his zvp.

In this situation with fantasy vs stork, you have a fairly strong player not known for his tvp vs a really strong player playing at perhaps his best known as the best pvt in the world.

For bisu vs savior, bisu came out of left field and had three big things going for him: savior was already slumping, Bisu had crazy crazy mechanics, and a new and highly effective build that countered savior and 3 hatch muta. But stork isnt slumping, Fantasy's mechanics are good but not super impressive, and his creative build is for tvz. If he either brings his mechanics up (which is possible), or comes up with a revolutionary tvp strat (less possible) he can win.

Otherwise stork has an advantage.

honestly, you guys made all these comparisons to past upsets and missed the best one.

jaedong vs forgg. Jaedong was playing at or near his best, it was arguably his strongest matchup, and no one had heard of forgg's tvz. The difference is everyone knew about forgg's absolutely sick macro.

so fantasy needs to improve his play significantly or hope for stork to falter in order to win. Both are possible.

Geo.Rion

7377 Posts

October 27 2008 16:36 GMT

#35

voted Fantasy and bet Stork, i wont be wrong for sure

Hyperionnn

Turkey4968 Posts

October 27 2008 17:13 GMT

#36

On October 28 2008 01:28 fusionsdf wrote:
For bisu vs savior, bisu came out of left field and had three big things going for him: savior was already slumping, Bisu had crazy crazy mechanics, and a new and highly effective build that countered savior and 3 hatch muta. But stork isnt slumping, Fantasy's mechanics are good but not super impressive, and his creative build is for tvz. If he either brings his mechanics up (which is possible), or comes up with a revolutionary tvp strat (less possible) he can win.

Holy fucking what? Was Savior already slumping before gomtv final? I think that everybody was calling him bonjwa after he owned nada on terran favored maps.

Hyperionnn

Turkey4968 Posts

October 27 2008 17:13 GMT

#37

On October 28 2008 02:13 Hyperionnn wrote:

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WTF? Was Savior already slumping before gomtv final? I think that everybody was calling him bonjwa after he owned nada on terran favored maps.

Edit:Sorry for misclicking quote button instead of edit button.

Slynki

78 Posts

October 27 2008 17:19 GMT

#38

Stork will choke like he always does. I'm expecting some sexy builds from fantasy courtesy of oov.

MrHoon

10183 Posts

October 27 2008 17:25 GMT

#39

I have this feeling in my gut
that stork will lose this OSL
I had this same feeling for Flash at RO8
And Jaedong with Free.

I pray that I am totally wrong.

fusionsdf

Canada15390 Posts

October 27 2008 17:34 GMT

#40

On October 28 2008 02:13 Hyperionnn wrote:

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Holy fucking what? Was Savior already slumping before gomtv final? I think that everybody was calling him bonjwa after he owned nada on terran favored maps.

yeah he was startiing to slump. I mean vs nada he was great, but if you go back and watch the games surrounding that, you can see a decrease in his play from december.

Im not saying he was slumping, and that actually had little to do with his loss. Just miswrote or something.

But I dont think savior was at his peak when he played bisu