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Auction OSL - Ro16 Final Day Preview (2013) - Page 2

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Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 04:04:34
July 18 2013 04:04 GMT
#21
and THIS is exactly the reason why gslstyle tournaments are better...
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Ecstatic
Profile Joined January 2011
United States160 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 04:35:46
July 18 2013 04:35 GMT
#22
When will Bomber win a GSL?

I guess it'll be... when pigscanfly.

*sunglasses*
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 18 2013 05:04 GMT
#23
this writeup fails to take into consideration that the matches between Bomber and Innovation and between Maru and Losira DO matter because it makes a difference whether you're first or second in the group, and also if you're third of fourth in the group (relevant for Losira). i also would've liked to see predictions for the inevitable tiebreakers in group C, but otherwise i agree with all the predictions.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 05:05:43
July 18 2013 05:05 GMT
#24
On July 18 2013 14:04 Schelim wrote:
this writeup fails to take into consideration that the matches between Bomber and Innovation and between Maru and Losira DO matter because it makes a difference whether you're first or second in the group, and also if you're third of fourth in the group (relevant for Losira). i also would've liked to see predictions for the inevitable tiebreakers in group C, but otherwise i agree with all the predictions.

Maru is guaranteed first in the group because he beat Supernova and map scores arent used in OSL
Losira is guaranteed fourth for losing to Trap
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 18 2013 05:07 GMT
#25
On July 18 2013 14:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 14:04 Schelim wrote:
this writeup fails to take into consideration that the matches between Bomber and Innovation and between Maru and Losira DO matter because it makes a difference whether you're first or second in the group, and also if you're third of fourth in the group (relevant for Losira). i also would've liked to see predictions for the inevitable tiebreakers in group C, but otherwise i agree with all the predictions.

Maru is guaranteed first in the group because he beat Supernova and map scores arent used in OSL
Losira is guaranteed fourth for losing to Trap

wiat i thought head to head isn't used either? if so, if Losira beats Maru there would be tiebreakers for Maru vs Supernova and for Losira vs Trap.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 18 2013 05:08 GMT
#26
On July 18 2013 14:07 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 14:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 18 2013 14:04 Schelim wrote:
this writeup fails to take into consideration that the matches between Bomber and Innovation and between Maru and Losira DO matter because it makes a difference whether you're first or second in the group, and also if you're third of fourth in the group (relevant for Losira). i also would've liked to see predictions for the inevitable tiebreakers in group C, but otherwise i agree with all the predictions.

Maru is guaranteed first in the group because he beat Supernova and map scores arent used in OSL
Losira is guaranteed fourth for losing to Trap

wiat i thought head to head isn't used either? if so, if Losira beats Maru there would be tiebreakers for Maru vs Supernova and for Losira vs Trap.

I could be wrong but I thought people in the LR were saying that the tiebreakers are only played for 3 way ties
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 18 2013 05:17 GMT
#27
i guess we'll find out
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
July 18 2013 05:27 GMT
#28
Just a small typo: Innovation 30-10 TvZ -> should be TvP
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
July 18 2013 05:32 GMT
#29
How is a 3-way tie breaker situation is solved?
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
July 18 2013 05:52 GMT
#30
On July 18 2013 10:56 izmatic wrote:
i dont really understand how this isnt considered more of a big deal, this seems to seriously call into question the legitimacy of the tourney to me. Isnt this the revered holy ground of korean tournaments and this is the format it has held to over the years? Has this never occurred during OSL's of the past? I didnt mind the BO1's during the first round, but having half the matches in a night be inconsequential and then ending with this situation is leaving a bad taste in my mouth and i really cant wait to get back to a GSL personally

They probably didnt consider this because in previous OSLs there actually was a Group selection ceremony where there was something like a gentlemen's agreement where they try to avoid teamkills as much as they can. Now, for some dumb reason, did a random ro16 drawing which is mainly to blame for this shitty situation. Its not that big of a deal because fantasy is already eliminated and rain is a favorite to win over fantasy in this case anyway but it couldve been worse. So OGN pls fix your shit next time you run WCS. Also, did we ever get an explanation why OGN didnt do a group selection ceremony anymore? No more extra time slot because of LoL most likely?
Woo Jung Ho
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 18 2013 08:01 GMT
#31
Congratz OSL. You've shown that despite your glorious legacy, you fail to understand how tournaments should be made, using Round Robin for the group stage, leading to this completely unacceptable situation.

I feel really sad for the players who end up in this situation (both Fantasy and Rain, but also First and hyvaa...).
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Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
July 18 2013 08:29 GMT
#32
On July 18 2013 17:01 Ragnarork wrote:
Congratz OSL. You've shown that despite your glorious legacy, you fail to understand how tournaments should be made, using Round Robin for the group stage, leading to this completely unacceptable situation.

I feel really sad for the players who end up in this situation (both Fantasy and Rain, but also First and hyvaa...).



Funny how people switch so fast... A few weeks ago, Khaldor criticized OSL for the match format and everyone gave him shit: "GSL jealous", "respect the heritage", etc.

And now as this situation unfolds (which isnt really OSL fault, it's just how shit unfolds in round robin), everybody is giving shit to OSL (even the writer of this article).

Stand your grounds for once.
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 18 2013 08:38 GMT
#33
On July 18 2013 17:29 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 17:01 Ragnarork wrote:
Congratz OSL. You've shown that despite your glorious legacy, you fail to understand how tournaments should be made, using Round Robin for the group stage, leading to this completely unacceptable situation.

I feel really sad for the players who end up in this situation (both Fantasy and Rain, but also First and hyvaa...).



Funny how people switch so fast... A few weeks ago, Khaldor criticized OSL for the match format and everyone gave him shit: "GSL jealous", "respect the heritage", etc.

And now as this situation unfolds (which isnt really OSL fault, it's just how shit unfolds in round robin), everybody is giving shit to OSL (even the writer of this article).

Stand your grounds for once.


Or, just imagine for a moment, that there are two different sets of people saying these 2 different things. Lots of different people on the internet, no need to group everyone together like that, crazy I know but I think it might be reasonable. =D

Also it kinda is OSL's fault for not playing Rain vs. Fantasy first.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 18 2013 10:03 GMT
#34
On July 18 2013 14:32 SorrowShine wrote:
How is a 3-way tie breaker situation is solved?

bo 1 matches.
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 18 2013 11:13 GMT
#35
On July 18 2013 17:29 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 17:01 Ragnarork wrote:
Congratz OSL. You've shown that despite your glorious legacy, you fail to understand how tournaments should be made, using Round Robin for the group stage, leading to this completely unacceptable situation.

I feel really sad for the players who end up in this situation (both Fantasy and Rain, but also First and hyvaa...).



Funny how people switch so fast... A few weeks ago, Khaldor criticized OSL for the match format and everyone gave him shit: "GSL jealous", "respect the heritage", etc.

And now as this situation unfolds (which isnt really OSL fault, it's just how shit unfolds in round robin), everybody is giving shit to OSL (even the writer of this article).

Stand your grounds for once.


What ? How is what I'm saying related to people giving shit to Khaldor for what he said about that ?

Plus, "it's not the OSL fault, but Round Robin". It's the OSL fault for using Round Robin. It doesn't happen naturally, duh !

I criticized the GSL for using Round Robin in the blizzcup (which IMO is partly responsible for the Nestea/Naniwa scandal), so I fail to see how I could stand my ground even more....


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matsushi
Profile Joined December 2010
Philippines65 Posts
July 18 2013 11:47 GMT
#36
Bomber hype train, ACTIVATE!
Driving this road down to paradise, letting the sunlight into my eyes
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2867 Posts
July 18 2013 15:27 GMT
#37
Calling it now: Bomber vs. Innovation in the finals. Bomber gets a 3-0 lead, then chokes like a mofo to lose it 4-3. Winner's interview features attempts by the interviewer to draw a parallel to Innovation's similar choke against Soulkey, but Innovation completely misses the point and obviously doesn't know what the interviewer is talking about. Bomber gets "Bomber's Law" tattooed as a tramp stamp. Pigscanfly nods sagaciously.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
July 18 2013 20:26 GMT
#38
Bomber!!!
MatiaasS !
Profile Joined October 2011
Chile167 Posts
July 18 2013 20:37 GMT
#39
Yes Artosis said that Bomber will never win a GSL !
Now is your time Bomber...
Team EG, TL and IM ! || Tennis For Life ♥ RF ♥
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands657 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 22:26:52
July 18 2013 22:24 GMT
#40
On July 18 2013 17:29 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 17:01 Ragnarork wrote:
Congratz OSL. You've shown that despite your glorious legacy, you fail to understand how tournaments should be made, using Round Robin for the group stage, leading to this completely unacceptable situation.

I feel really sad for the players who end up in this situation (both Fantasy and Rain, but also First and hyvaa...).



Funny how people switch so fast... A few weeks ago, Khaldor criticized OSL for the match format and everyone gave him shit: "GSL jealous", "respect the heritage", etc.

And now as this situation unfolds (which isnt really OSL fault, it's just how shit unfolds in round robin), everybody is giving shit to OSL (even the writer of this article).

Stand your grounds for once.


You do know that it's very possible that the people who gave Khaldor shit are not the same people who are giving shit to OSL?

Besides, saying "I like round robin and OSL in general, but maybe they could've prevented ENDING with Rain vs. Fantasy" isn't really moving grounds. I assume people who said they didn't mind the OSL format didn't consider this particular coincidence.

Anyway, like the writers I didn't expect Kangho/Bomber to win 2-0! I expected something along the line of the predictions here. But well played and I'm glad First/Rain got through so at least hyvaa won't be the most hated person this season haha
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