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winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
June 14 2012 03:58 GMT
#21
Mvp, DRG, MKP, Symbol and Leenock are the players with high skills
Incredible Miracle
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
June 14 2012 04:05 GMT
#22
Mvp > MKP. Come on people, MKP can't even win a GSL. Mvp won it last season against all sorts of odds. I think it'd be silly to say an MLG weekend arena > GSL Code S.
WellPlayed.org <3
theolysis
Profile Joined May 2012
United States107 Posts
June 14 2012 04:10 GMT
#23
On June 14 2012 11:50 LimitSEA wrote:
Mvp and Happy to make it through, gogogo!

And for the record, Mvp is still, to my mind, the most skilled player in the world. He just suffers a bad case of exploding wrists.

I hate it when my wrists explode!

Don't get me wrong, I think MKP is an excellent player and I've been an MKP fanboy ever since his GSL debut, but does he have what it takes to be a champion player like Mvp? At the moment, I'd have to say no.
"You will be the penis."
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 04:30:58
June 14 2012 04:29 GMT
#24
Only thing MKP is better than MVP is micro. Strategic thinking,decision making,ability to keep his cool, all of this are part of skill that MVP is far better than MKP. I would say MVP is more skilled player.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 14 2012 04:50 GMT
#25
On June 14 2012 13:29 Wildmoon wrote:
Only thing MKP is better than MVP is micro. Strategic thinking,decision making,ability to keep his cool, all of this are part of skill that MVP is far better than MKP. I would say MVP is more skilled player.

mkp macro is heaps impressive. he also has more builds (especially of late)
'skill' is difficult to quantify.
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NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
June 14 2012 05:43 GMT
#26
Mvp and Line. Don't count out a zerg these days.
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
June 14 2012 06:25 GMT
#27
Jävla Protoss ftw lol

Still somewhat annoyed at Keen for the way he played, but at least Squirtle got through anyway, so I guess it's okay, just bothers me that Thorzain might have had a chance to advance as well otherwise.

As far as today's games goes, Mvp/Genius seems like the obvious choice, and I agree with that, although I would love to see Mvp get knocked out, as the GSL is somehow more interesting without him. I want new blood fighting it out
Tibbroar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States161 Posts
June 14 2012 07:17 GMT
#28
On June 14 2012 15:25 HaXXspetten wrote:
Jävla Protoss ftw lol

Still somewhat annoyed at Keen for the way he played, but at least Squirtle got through anyway, so I guess it's okay, just bothers me that Thorzain might have had a chance to advance as well otherwise.

As far as today's games goes, Mvp/Genius seems like the obvious choice, and I agree with that, although I would love to see Mvp get knocked out, as the GSL is somehow more interesting without him. I want new blood fighting it out


You're annoyed at Keen because he played better than Squirtle...?
I will always believe in the fallen king.
Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
June 14 2012 07:57 GMT
#29
On June 14 2012 16:17 Tibbroar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 15:25 HaXXspetten wrote:
Jävla Protoss ftw lol

Still somewhat annoyed at Keen for the way he played, but at least Squirtle got through anyway, so I guess it's okay, just bothers me that Thorzain might have had a chance to advance as well otherwise.

As far as today's games goes, Mvp/Genius seems like the obvious choice, and I agree with that, although I would love to see Mvp get knocked out, as the GSL is somehow more interesting without him. I want new blood fighting it out


You're annoyed at Keen because he played better than Squirtle...?


You're cute.
Spiner
Profile Joined February 2011
United States360 Posts
June 14 2012 08:31 GMT
#30
On June 14 2012 08:58 Dodgin wrote:
I think DRG is currently the most " skilled " player, we'll see if that can carry him to 2011 Mvp-like dominance for the rest of this year.


Why is DRG considered more "skilled" than MVP?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 08:34:15
June 14 2012 08:33 GMT
#31
On June 14 2012 17:31 Spiner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 08:58 Dodgin wrote:
I think DRG is currently the most " skilled " player, we'll see if that can carry him to 2011 Mvp-like dominance for the rest of this year.


Why is DRG considered more "skilled" than MVP?


Because of Mvp's injury, until he fixes that he's not playing at maximum potential.

Even ignoring that, DRG might be better. It has not been proven yet but It's just a feeling I'm getting. We'll find out as the rest of the year goes on.
CursivE
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia317 Posts
June 14 2012 08:57 GMT
#32
On June 14 2012 13:29 Wildmoon wrote:
Only thing MKP is better than MVP is micro. Strategic thinking,decision making,ability to keep his cool, all of this are part of skill that MVP is far better than MKP. I would say MVP is more skilled player.


This 100%

I'd say MVP is more skilled, however MKP is more talented. MKP has the potential to be as good as MVP one day, but at the moment it's only that.
MC || HuK || MMA || Squirtle || TLO || Sea || HerO || MarineKing || MVP || NesTea
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 10:05:03
June 14 2012 10:03 GMT
#33
On June 14 2012 17:31 Spiner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 08:58 Dodgin wrote:
I think DRG is currently the most " skilled " player, we'll see if that can carry him to 2011 Mvp-like dominance for the rest of this year.


Why is DRG considered more "skilled" than MVP?


DRG is definitely the best zerg, and is in competition with MVP for best player his 2012/end of 2011 was quite fantastic so far and has shown skill to that of MVP, however atm MVP has more skill .. I think.
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TheCupholder
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada58 Posts
June 14 2012 10:48 GMT
#34
Lol before watching those games i was not a keen fan.... after those games I am REALLY not a keen fan!!
<3 :) GO: HUK LEENOCK PARTING SEED SQUIRTLE :)
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
June 14 2012 11:19 GMT
#35
such a bad luck for Thorzain. If only he had taken Keen he would have a better shot
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
eMGmoG
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland244 Posts
June 14 2012 12:56 GMT
#36
game knowledge and decision making, mvp is so damn huge at it. baserace decision vs happy and the build in the 2nd game, just to name the latest.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
June 14 2012 15:14 GMT
#37
On June 14 2012 12:58 winthrop wrote:
Mvp, DRG, MKP, Symbol and Leenock are the players with high skills

What's that supposed to mean exactly?
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
June 15 2012 19:37 GMT
#38
This title made me think of Catz...

In any case, not too surprised with the results, Line and happy are decent upcomers (well... sorta, they've been around forever... Resurgent is probably the better word) but I knew they couldn't overwhelm the consistency of Genius + MVP.
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
June 16 2012 00:43 GMT
#39
Gogo MVP!
I believe in you.
5th GSL title awaits.
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
teamhozac
Profile Joined April 2012
404 Posts
June 16 2012 12:13 GMT
#40
Great, can we expect another rax timing nerf after this proxy rax strat in TvP has been showcased a few times? 10 seconds longer to build rax lol... wouldnt put it past blizz
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