• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:00
CEST 19:00
KST 02:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash8[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy12ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple5Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research3Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: SoulKey vs Ample ASL21 General Discussion RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group E [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group D [ASL21] Ro24 Group C
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1675 users

The Liquid Weekly #20

Forum Index > News
85 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 Next All

The Liquid Weekly #20

Text byriptide
Graphics byKennigit
December 15th, 2010 17:13 GMT

Tis the season!

[image loading]
Quick Links

Liquid` Sightings

Looking Back
(while looking forward)

Happy Holidays
From ESPORTS central.

This Week In Replays

Fan Feedback

TL T-Shirt Giveaway



Liquid`Jinro in GSL Open S3 Semi-Finals - Event Finished


Liquid's Swedish Steamroller TLAF-Liquid`Jinro had a fantastic GSL run this season, ending up in the top four, and giving the team its best run in the Global Starcraft League yet. Having qualified for Code-S status, we look forward to seeing more Jinrolling in 2011. [More]


Ret qualifies for GSL Code-A - Event Finished


In a tense tiebreaker on Tuesday, TLAF-Liquid`Ret did well to qualify for a Code-A position in the GSL. Of course, this means that we'll see more of our Dutch Destroyer in the new year, and the Liquid Weekly looks forward to bringing you coverage of his progress in January. [More]

[image loading]back to top


Liquid`Jinro in GSL Open S3 Semi-Finals - Event Finished


Liquid's Swedish Steamroller TLAF-Liquid`Jinro had a fantastic GSL run this season, ending up in the top four, and giving the team its best run in the Global Starcraft League yet. Having qualified for Code-S status, we look forward to seeing more Jinrolling in 2011.

Be sure to check out TL's post-match interview with Jonathan and then read our Looking Back section for more on how he sees the months gone by and what his plans are for 2011.


Ret qualifies for GSL Code-A - Event Finished


In a tense tiebreaker on Tuesday, TLAF-Liquid`Ret did well to qualify for a Code-A position in the GSL in 2011. Of course, this means that we'll see more of our Dutch Destroyer in the new year, and the Liquid Weekly looks forward to bringing you coverage of his progress in January.

Here's a post-match interview with Ret conducted by Torch of VTGaming after his Code-A qualifier games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSNOL1o5xrU




[image loading]back to top


TLAF-Liquid`Nazgul


[image loading]
TL Logo Chainmail via Pholon.


How happy are you with Liquid's performance in 2010?

I'm so stoked, it's unbelievable what these guys did! In a matter of months we went from nothing to establishing ourselves in the Korean, American and European scenes, and did it by the sheer dedication and talent of our players.

My favorite moment would be Jinro winning MLG because it was such a feeling of justice and things being right in this world. The nicest guy with the most dedication and the most undervalued skills finally pulling through! He had been an underperformer, and thus undervalued, even when he was living in Sweden. Of course moving to Korea, barely playing any tournaments and not qualifying for GSL didn't help that image at all. But we never stopped believing in him, not for one second, and for him to reward this in such a huge fashion just felt amazing. His GSL run may be more of a feat but I will always see it as a result of that MLG win. That gave him the confidence to kick ass on Korean TV.

In 2011 I expect the same from all the other guys. Right now Haypro is kind of in a spot where Jinro was before where his games on TV and in tournaments have not represented his skill level yet.
Of course, the moment things start rolling for him you can expect great results as well. I'm just really happy with the way our squad turned out. Tyler holding our ground in the US, Huk winning MLG and placing top 3 in 3 majors and Ret occasionally showing us a glimpse of what he is capable of.

One thing I'm really bummed about is TLO's injury. Moving to Korea is no small feat that deserves respect no matter what, but doing so while having CTS and then getting chickenpox is something else. I was right there and still can't really imagine what it must have been like for him. Right now he is mostly healing up and only playing an occasional tournament. We're not entirely sure where things will go in 2011, we may even have to look into surgery, but no matter what happens we will continue to support him.


In what ways is the present age of Liquid similar to how it was during Broodwar, and in what ways is it different?

The big similarities are all about the squad. When recruiting, we try to look at highly skilled, highly likeable guys. We all know each other well, are friends with each other and see a lot of things the same way. In recruitment I want guys to get the feeling that they become part of something bigger. At Liquid, it's more than just a paycheck and travel expenses. It's about becoming a part of a group of friends that sit at the center of a tremendous community, with dedicated staff and a lot history behind it. These are all things that have historically been a part of Liquid as well.

The biggest difference is the scene we find ourselves in and the role we play in it. Back when Liquid had a decent BW squad there was barely any proscene besides the one in Korea. Liquid played the role of a clan more so than a (sponsored) team. Now that SC2 is booming the position we find ourselves in is really unique and we're grateful to play such a large part in esports.


As Team Manager, you spend a lot of your time on administrative duties. Do you ever miss being a part of the action?

Hell yes! I think if you ask any ex-player in any sport there is always a lingering feeling of wanting to be back in there. However, to be a top level player you need to be able to fully dedicate yourself to perform. Even if you just say you are going to dedicate yourself starting tomorrow you can't have anything playing in the back of your mind or it will influence you too much in practice.

It is a sad realization but with the team, the site and the stage where I am in life, it is just not realistic for me to pursue being a player anymore. I had my shot when I was younger and now it is my responsibility that I prepare the scene and the players of the future as best as I can. Every now and then I may join a tournament if I am travelling with the team and I'll never take a tournament lightly so I'll prepare as good as I can for the games I play, but in my day to day activities there's not much room for gaming. I realize that I need to maintain a certain level of play in order to perform better as a team manager and site owner so I will always try to focus on that as well as I can


I guess the burning question is this - where to from here? What does 2011 hold for Liquid?

Expect lots of great things. I believe in every single one of these guys and I think they have the capability to achieve some incredible results in the year to come. The mix of old school members with experience and newer players that still have a lot ahead of them is going to prove more and more fruitful as time goes by. I'm confident that together we can deliver some amazing results. Our main focus will be on MLG and the GSL. Of course we would really like to be in IEM as well but the qualification process of IEM is currently very complicated for a team with so many players located in Korea.

I also think that in 2011 as a team we are looking to establish our position more. These past months have been incredibly high paced, and we have consistently taken big steps forward with the team. Finding a great sponsor in TLAF, moving to Korea, travelling around the world, recruiting new members - we did a lot, and everything has gone very fast. Hopefully not too fast, but it is a concern to be aware of. Now is the time to try and see if we can maintain this level. Part of this process will entail looking for more sponsors to help solidify the team in the long run. TLAF and Liquid both know that a team needs more sponsors, so now comes the maturation stage that we have to go through to become a true esports team. We hope to go through this together with our fans.


Finally, how about telling us a bit about how having TL behind them affects Liquid as a team? Players and teams always thank fans for their support, but it would be nice to hear from Liquid itself what the greatest ESPORTS community in the world does for them on a practical, every day kind of level.

At times it is pretty surreal to see this many fans supporting our players. With or without the team, the TL community is the best in the world. It holds so many amazing members with so many different talents that continue to impress all of us every single day, even after 8 long years. Seeing these talents put to use in supporting the team with cheerfuls, paintings, stories, or simple messages wishing us well is awesome. A quick look up to see Pholons amazing chainmail should tell you enough.

When all of these people rally up to support one thing together something special happens and I think everyone who visits TL can feel it.





TLAF-Liquid`Jinro


[image loading]

If you learnt one thing about yourself this GSL, what would it be?

That I don't like losing even when I know I'm realistically likely to lose.


What was your favourite GSL series you played in?

Probably vs Choya just because I practised so incredibly hard for it and it meant Id made it as far as Id dared dream really (me and MC always said wed meet in the semis, then he'd win the whole thing - he was supposed to meet ret on the other side though).


What was your favourite GSL series you watched?
I don't really remember, probably Clide vs Leenock?


What steps are you taking to make sure that your early game is ready to go for your next GSL appearance? Are you focusing on anything in particular when it comes to your play early on?

Experimenting with earlier ghosts+earlier stim, hopefully can find something that lets me expand safely (if slower), while punishing the expos that would be TOO far ahead of my slower expo.


The GSL goes into Code-S in 2011. Do you think this will change the way you approach at all? What about group dynamics and preparing for multiple matchups at a time? What experiences of 2010 do you think have better prepared you for the challenges of the upcoming GSL?

Maybe there'll be more emphasis on 1 time builds now that its 2xBo1, but mostly I'll just practice like I've done - prep hard for the week's game or whatever.


How do you plan to spend December, both individually and as a team?

Dont know, relaxing and keeping in shape (sc2 and otherwise) I guess. Probably gonna do something together as a team.


Is the Liquid-oGs house in the holiday spirit yet? You know, like handing each other free wins and stuff? This is the season of giving after all.

Not really, Christmas is a couples holiday in Korea!


If you could pick anyone on Liquid-oGs to have a grudgematch against, who would it be?

I would have Hayder play Ret in my stead, cause they are fighting like a married couple all the time anyway, might as well do it in game!


In closing, make a bold prediction about 2011!

It seems so boring to say "I'll win GSL", and I don't think there are any other bold predictions that can be made really, so I'm just gonna take 2011 as it comes.



[image loading]back to top

[image loading]

Jonathan, Hayder, Jos and HuK and Nazgul, Tyler and TLO would like to wish everyone a happy holiday season. We hope everyone has a safe, peaceful vacation, a meaningful Christmas and a great New Year. We look forward to rocking Korea and the world for you in 2011!

Happy Holidays, sports fans. Good games to all, and to all, good night!



[image loading]back to top


[image loading]


For Protoss players, Christmas comes early this year. Enjoy!

Download HuK Ladder Replay Pack




[image loading]back to top

This week, TL gfx hero ZeroCartin gives us yet another wallpaper of fan favourite Jinro. Remember to thank him after you download!

[image loading]

1680x1050
1280x1024
1280x960
1024x768



[image loading]back to top

The contest is closed for 2010. See you guys in the new year!

+ Show Spoiler [Last Winner] +
Congratulations to TL user nakam for winning last week's Cheerful Contest.

[image loading]


Please pm 'riptide' on TL for more information on how to get your t-shirt.





Thank you for a great year, TL! To commemorate our 20th issue, here's disciple with an amazing graphical run down of the LW in 2010.

[image loading]




Liquid` is proudly sponsored by The Little App Factory, makers of fine applications for Windows and Mac OS X and fans of great Starcraft! Their flagship program, iRip allows you to recover your music from iPods - a life saver if you, like many of us, do tech support for friends and family. In fact, for a limited time, you can use the coupon code TEAMLIQUID to get 25% off when you get TLAF products!
Facebook Twitter Reddit
AdministratorSKT T1 | Masters of the Universe
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 17:23:10
December 15 2010 17:14 GMT
#2
gogo liquid fighting!
#1 Fantasy Fan!!!!
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19138 Posts
December 15 2010 17:18 GMT
#3
Nice job Riptide and Kennigit, I always enjoy these .
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
December 15 2010 17:22 GMT
#4
Holy crap, I didn't know TLO was diagnosed with CTS Don't stress yourself too much Dario!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50712 Posts
December 15 2010 17:29 GMT
#5
Haha Disciple, you make the best graphical art for TL
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BGrael
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany229 Posts
December 15 2010 17:29 GMT
#6
The last year was great for being a starcraft fan; I'm already excited about next years games! Teamliquid.net and Teamliquid really add so much too my starcraft experience, for both starcraft bw and starcraft 2. Hope you guys will do great next year, good luck, and get well Dario.
Only concern: BO1 in GSL group stage ? ;(
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
December 15 2010 17:31 GMT
#7
TLO with CTS? Sucks. Hope he gets better.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
December 15 2010 17:32 GMT
#8
really cool coverage, awesome as usual. really liked the graphic by Disciple

and the thing about TLO is really sad, get well soon!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 15 2010 17:36 GMT
#9
awesome
metadodo
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore7 Posts
December 15 2010 17:40 GMT
#10
WOOO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK TEAM LIQUID!!!
Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 18:00:19
December 15 2010 17:40 GMT
#11
Edit: Not possible, asked

#1 Team in the world !
Where is my ACE flair
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
December 15 2010 17:44 GMT
#12
These are always great!
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
December 15 2010 17:46 GMT
#13
Loved the interview with Nazgul and I'm excited for the SC action after the break! Get better TLO!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Noev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1105 Posts
December 15 2010 17:46 GMT
#14
This is one of those things i look forward to every week, keep up the great work im really excited to see what happens in 2011
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 15 2010 17:48 GMT
#15
Amazing, simply amazing.

TL FIGHTING!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Tleaf
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada181 Posts
December 15 2010 17:48 GMT
#16
<3 TL!!!! I hope all of TL gets Code S
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
December 15 2010 17:54 GMT
#17
Love the weekly, love the players, love the content. I love how much the team and site has grown since SC2's beta hit, can't wait to see how things blow up next year!
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 15 2010 17:55 GMT
#18
Great stuff as usual! ^__^

I would have Hayder play Ret in my stead, cause they are fighting like a married couple all the time anyway, might as well do it in game!


Lol! XD
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Zidon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States21 Posts
December 15 2010 17:55 GMT
#19
It's been a great 2010, 2011 will be even better. Thanks TL!
Versita
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1032 Posts
December 15 2010 18:00 GMT
#20
On December 16 2010 02:32 DoXa wrote:
really cool coverage, awesome as usual. really liked the graphic by Disciple

and the thing about TLO is really sad, get well soon!

On December 16 2010 02:29 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Haha Disciple, you make the best graphical art for TL


did disciple make that? i don't see his name anywhere so i assumed it was made by kennigit since the header says graphics by kennigit

either way, i really liked the graphic as well, TL fighting in 2011~
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech149
UpATreeSC 13
MindelVK 7
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 3020
EffOrt 1649
Larva 651
Mini 635
Stork 456
actioN 388
firebathero 312
Snow 274
Hyuk 144
hero 127
[ Show more ]
Aegong 81
Barracks 71
Backho 49
Dewaltoss 34
Shine 34
sorry 32
JulyZerg 27
IntoTheRainbow 24
Terrorterran 21
Bale 20
ggaemo 15
SilentControl 9
Dota 2
qojqva3033
capcasts18
Counter-Strike
fl0m1670
byalli290
Other Games
FrodaN2006
Grubby1701
Liquid`RaSZi1583
B2W.Neo821
Beastyqt343
DeMusliM321
Hui .146
QueenE97
RotterdaM89
Mew2King71
Trikslyr63
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 13
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 28
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV983
League of Legends
• Nemesis3968
• TFBlade1340
Other Games
• Shiphtur223
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
7h
Replay Cast
16h
Afreeca Starleague
17h
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Kung Fu Cup
18h
Replay Cast
1d 7h
The PondCast
1d 17h
OSC
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
TriGGeR vs Cure
ByuN vs Rogue
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Maru vs MaxPax
[ Show More ]
BSL
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS6
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.