I think it's silly. If I'm a monster that per role pm is town, what is my objective? Soak kp? If I can't die by lynch, can't die by bullet, I'm immortal?

Seems broken to me.

If I have a un-notified vest then I'll die when someone sends kp on me. If I don't die then I'm not even sure what I should do. If winning involving nothing more than surviving when I can't die? I could literally afk this while I win? No way.

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 18 2020 20:31 GMT

#493

On November 19 2020 05:16 Vivax wrote:
I guess I have a tinfoil theory where Artanis is scum.

Because I didn't realize you could actually vote for Slam until Hapa put it in spoilers. Artanis backing off there when I was ready to cruise for that lynch if it's even possible could mean he's mafia.

This would be the most ridiculous game of mafia ever if the gosh damn host is scum. Personal opinion is that the hosts were poking fun. I mean Art had 2 votes on Slam and 1 on me. You seriously think all 3 were valid? Serious?

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 18 2020 20:33 GMT

#495

And I believe that even less. Art voted for me after I asked him to consolidate. I didn't want another nolynch to happen.

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 18 2020 21:24 GMT

#510

I have nothing to add here.

I tried to help solve this by lynch last cycle.
I'm trying to help solve this by telling people to shoot me this night.

I'm not mafia though. Which is precisely the reason I've done both of the above.

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 18 2020 21:27 GMT

#512

And killing everything is a lazy route. I don't want a draw. I want to win.

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 18 2020 21:31 GMT

#516

Best assumption is Vivax.

Art hasn't had an agenda and why would he delay the game on no lynch against a mod no less?

You have wrong but valid reason to think I'm scum.

Just kill me tonight then solve game.

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 18 2020 21:40 GMT

#523

On November 19 2020 06:33 CopCake wrote:

Show nested quote +

Asking to kill you is against your wincon

Not if it is best for town. My win con is for town to win. If I die for that objective so be it.

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 18 2020 22:09 GMT

#528

On November 19 2020 06:41 CopCake wrote:
No, what you need to do is convince town why Vivax is mafia if you are town.

My long winded case writing is dead for years.

I say what I think.
It up to you to fact check it.

I'm growing complacent about as fast as my hair is turning grey.

I'm ok with being wrong. Sadly I've have many more responsibly than I did years ago. I'm not going to do the grunt work like I use to.

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 18 2020 22:10 GMT

#529

Oh sheesh.. Auto correct on my phone made that post a mess r.r..

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 19 2020 07:10 GMT

#531

I hate everything right now.
I'm just afk.

I shot Vivax.

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 19 2020 18:27 GMT

#536

*sigh*

## vote: CopCake

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 19 2020 21:10 GMT

#546

On November 19 2020 04:25 Eversince wrote:
I think it's silly. If I'm a monster that per role pm is town, what is my objective? Soak kp? If I can't die by lynch, can't die by bullet, I'm immortal?

Seems broken to me.

If I have a un-notified vest then I'll die when someone sends kp on me. If I don't die then I'm not even sure what I should do. If winning involving nothing more than surviving when I can't die? I could literally afk this while I win? No way.

I can!? Darn I could of saved a lot of time!

So I'm immune to Lynch?
Your assumption is immune to kp 1 time each player.
If anyone has shot me I've killed them before they can call it?

I'm a god appears.

(Sarcasm of course! :3.. I'm stupid confused.)

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 20 2020 05:08 GMT

#547

This is turning boring.

Cake is never not going to vote me.
Art when you're around let's just decide. There is little point in dragging this out to be a dead thread for another day.

Honestly I skimmed Cake's filter and I just can't seem to find her scum. That leaves you. Which is a problem that isn't solvable.. So if your scum gg. Otherwise I think we should call it.

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 20 2020 06:51 GMT

#551

Thanks for the game friends!
Thanks for hosting Slam :3.

Sorry for the bad play ฯ.ฯ
I made a lot of mistakes this game..

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 20 2020 07:12 GMT

#554

No worry friend, I don't hold grudges

.

I knew I was screwed pretty early on.

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 20 2020 07:15 GMT

#555

It's ironic that I literally shot about the only chance at town winning.. Sorry Vivax *cries*

Honestly by the time I submitted that I wasn't sure. If I hadn't shot at that point I was obvious lynch. Still better would of been to leave Vivax alive and just die myself so town might of had a chance..

Eversince

Philippines2303 Posts

November 20 2020 21:51 GMT

#571

On November 21 2020 06:29 Hapahauli wrote:
The setup was:

5x Town Vigi
- Vigi's can shoot 1KP every night. Vigi's cannot "save" KP.
- Vigi shots are subject to the "hidden rules" outlined in Slam's previous post.

1x Mafia Super-Veteran
- Has 7 bulletproof vests.
- Slam and I had discussed giving a one-time use 1KP to mafia, although, I don't know if it was ever given or used.

Additionally, Mafia had a hidden passive mechanic that would have invalidated every single lynch except for LYLO.

It was a fun setup to watch, but from a game design perspective, I dislike mechanics that make players feel like they are "wasting" effort or time. I think some of the hidden mechanics unintentionally had that effect (particularly the "fake" lynch mechanic).

Reason I eventually gave up r.r..