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On August 21 2017 16:17 Jealous wrote:
"Jealous votes HF literally seconds before the deadline and IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO HE PUTS HIS VOTE ON SINCE HF WILL ANYWAYS RECEIVE THE POWER UP as he got to 5 first!!!!"
You're right, shenanigans never happen in TL Mafia games, what was I thinking trying to put up a safety net like that. Definitely more likely that I'm scum who just didn't bother to gain votes when it was 4/4/4. Just had to make sure that my scumbuddy got the PR and not me because... wait... HF, explain that one to me again?
I am not saying that is soomething that makes you mafia, i am saying it doesn't make you town because if you are mafia you can easily assume there are no more votes 5 seconds before the deadline.. Like are you trying to say it makes you town???? It's fuckign absurd.
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Explain this to me Jealous:
You say that:
Definitely more likely that I'm scum who just didn't bother to gain votes...
Let's assume you are town and this is your thought process. Now at the time the voting was going on, you didn't exactly think either of Cake/HF is town -> that by default means you think there is at least a chance either, or both of them are mafia.
Now tell me this, if that is your mindset, why didn't you bother to gain votes as town?????
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Everytime someone asks a reasonable question, i don't really get why you have to be a sarcastic dick about it.
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Can you now answer my question about why you didn't bother try gaining votes over people you thought have a chance to be mafia?
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On August 21 2017 16:32 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2017 16:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can you now answer my question about why you didn't bother try gaining votes over people you thought have a chance to be mafia? I did everything I could fam.
I think you jsut said you didn't.
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So what's your answer then:
why you didn't bother try gaining votes over people you thought have a chance to be mafia?
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On August 21 2017 16:38 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2017 16:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So what's your answer then:
why you didn't bother try gaining votes over people you thought have a chance to be mafia? I am the only one to make a campaign poster so I tried in the only way I know how, but I didn't bother with pandering and all that. Not that CopCake and HF did much of it either iirc.
That is not what i mean. I mean that when i present an argument that your vote didn't mean anything (as it doesn't), you respond with "that's not what i would have done as mafia (a thing YOU made up as your behavior) but i am town and i didn't do that".
Ugh... i am bad at english. Basically you said you wouldn't do what you did as mafia but that thing doesn't make any sense at all as town either and afaik you're now saying that's not really what you did....
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On August 21 2017 09:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i am fine with either choice besides geript. conv and copcake are both highly town.
the (non) NK could go either way. it makes hf townier, but mafia does not lose that much from holding a shot. LYLO becomes MYLO. maybe 80% mafia -> 60% mafia.
That is not true. Check your numbers.
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On August 21 2017 11:42 ritoky wrote:
Copcake, I am just going to try to be honest with you here and I mean 0 offense by this. It is simply my impression of you this game.
I think people react negatively towards you because you are disproportionately hostile toward any1 who comes remotely close to insulting you or disagreeing with you. Many players are also having trouble following your train of thought, which happens some people's rationale is more difficult to understand than others, but when they ask for clarity or further questions they are often met with yelling or a repetition of the same answer. This can result in people arriving at the point of "well I don't want to interact with that because getting yelled at for asking a question is not the kind of thing I play mafia for and want in my life."
I know I am a little shit at times too, as are most here, who call others dumb when we are frustrated or insult people cuz we are having a shitty day; so sometimes you just have to take on people's anger and try and convert it in some way into constructive discourse. But this has turned out way too white knighty and I am disgusted with myself.
An example of what I am talking about is you discussing HF with me:
I say HF is like 98% cleared as town, because he is the only player who was capable of being a medic or vest and there was no NK along with some other stuff.
You respond with "no HF is not clear he could very well be mafia, last game he made #huge_plays so he can be mafia."
I respond with, okay I can understand the paranoia but if HF is mafia what reason would he have to not submit KP? Even the math on him vigi shooting + kp tonight doesn't immediately result in a win for mafia, so why?
To which you say "because HF is capable of making #huge_plays".
And as you see we have reached an impasse. Because I am going to keep asking how and why a competent mafia player would elect to forego KP when it nets no tangible positive that I can see, and you're going to keep responding with "last game #huge_plays" and baseline paranoia. And so now I can't really discuss HF with you anymore because in my mind it will not go anywhere productive.
Cake you should read this. Because it is right.
Although i have to say one thing here. Townies often time don't get why mafia does the things they do. Because if they did, mafia wouldn't win. So Cake's conclusion here isn't necessarily dumb, it is different than most of us sure, but people call these kind of stuff retarded all the time and it is really annoying. And i get why she feels annoyed regardless of her affiliation. I know i have had a bad week last week, in fact over the past two weeks i haven't been able to sleep well until last weekend for who the fuck knows what reason, i am was all the time. It doesn't really help that when i try to play this game Holyflare had already decided everything i can ever say makes me mafia, Hopelesswonder calls everyone and everything stupid while doing nothing else, and Jealous cannot answer any of the questions presented to him. What do you think, do you think with the small amount of time i have when i am level headed and not working i wanna use it on listening to this shit? I can relate to what Cake says. Just being called retarded over and over again just because you made a conclusion isn't exactly nice.
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Cake can you post a list on who do you think is mafia? Just reasoning with a couple of sentences. I don't want any 27-point-bullet-point-list because there is never going to be anyone who is mafia for 27 different reasons.
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On August 20 2017 14:57 Eversince wrote:
I dont actively have a home =(
I'm not going to play games on my friends couch. I asked for a replacement but if one's not found PLEASE modkill me.
shit... 
disformation i am pretty sure you're mafia. If you're not, who is?
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On August 21 2017 06:29 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2017 06:25 geript wrote:On August 21 2017 06:23 disformation wrote:
sup.
this appears to not be obs qt. instructions unclear. dick got stuck in mixer.
i was semi-ish following the game a bit. some specific filters i should look at asapish, or is it cool if i go over shit again tomorrow?
dont have like real reads atm. was hoping to wait and see who'll turn out to be scum when the game ends. xD I'd like your read on Eversince. wouldnt it make more sense for me to do reads on slots that are not myself?
no
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geript 
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On August 21 2017 06:24 disformation wrote:
some random notes of shit i can remember from skimming the game a bit b4 the weekend:
copcake is all over the place, but in my head she feels more similar to the cccp game than the game where rels, cake, me where scum. thought that is ages ago.
What is this game you are talking about?
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On August 21 2017 17:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2017 06:24 disformation wrote:
some random notes of shit i can remember from skimming the game a bit b4 the weekend:
copcake is all over the place, but in my head she feels more similar to the cccp game than the game where rels, cake, me where scum. thought that is ages ago. What is this game you are talking about?
Oh nvm, that doesn't mean anything though, you cannot compare 2 scum team game with 1 scum team game since with 2 scum teams even mafia can genuinely scumhunt (and that's why 2 scum team games are dumb).
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On August 21 2017 07:20 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2017 07:17 ritoky wrote:
the vote was 4-4-4 jealous, hf, cop; with only an afk 1gu not voting. jealous unvoted himself and voted hf to ensure hf got the power. oh wow. yeah that is really really really unlikely to come from scum. and was totally not in his filter. think i'll better reread the thread.
This would be a thing just if it was not wrong....
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where do people get this 4-4-4 thing?
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On August 21 2017 18:03 Holyflare wrote:
I never said 4-4-4 I just simply said that it looked like people were going to vote cake and it's highly unlikely mafia switch to try and prevent that by giving myself a vest. His posts around the deadline imitate this line of thought that he's unsure of cake and how it's strange people are voting her so he'll give it to me.
He voted like 5 seconds before the deadline....
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At least ritoky was saying that and disformation cba to check just call Jealous town for something that is not correct...
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On August 21 2017 18:03 Holyflare wrote:
I never said 4-4-4 I just simply said that it looked like people were going to vote cake and it's highly unlikely mafia switch to try and prevent that by giving myself a vest. His posts around the deadline imitate this line of thought that he's unsure of cake and how it's strange people are voting her so he'll give it to me.
Let's say Cake is mafia. What happens if a scumbuddy gives her the vest and you die N1 flipping town (which always happens)?
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