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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 17:16 GMT
#1009
Actually I can't. Cya guys
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:05 GMT
#1380
Holy f****. Looks like a pile formed on me.

I'll try to read the recent events since I have a bit of time now until EOD.

Could someone explain why SL is being voted? Also this vote situation looks pretty odd. I'd expect it to be a more heated votecount if we were on the right tracks but votes are all over the place..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:08 GMT
#1382
Why is leading a wagon scummy?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:10 GMT
#1390
On June 16 2017 07:08 annul wrote:
xatalos revote to sicklucker and i will do the same, putting him in the lead


I guess I'll do that if there's just no other choice. I don't really see how SL is the best lynch here tho
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:11 GMT
#1397
On June 16 2017 07:09 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:05 Xatalos wrote:
Holy f****. Looks like a pile formed on me.

I'll try to read the recent events since I have a bit of time now until EOD.

Could someone explain why SL is being voted? Also this vote situation looks pretty odd. I'd expect it to be a more heated votecount if we were on the right tracks but votes are all over the place..


palmar is spite voting me. no one other then hf and vivax think im scum. Im actively trying to save you right now too I suggest you vote annul with me if you want to live


That seems like a fine place to park my vote for now. I'll be checking what annul has done in the recent hours.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:13 GMT
#1403
On June 16 2017 07:11 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:10 Xatalos wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:08 annul wrote:
xatalos revote to sicklucker and i will do the same, putting him in the lead


I guess I'll do that if there's just no other choice. I don't really see how SL is the best lynch here tho

Why do you assume annul is town there ?


Where?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:14 GMT
#1407
On June 16 2017 07:13 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:11 Xatalos wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:09 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:05 Xatalos wrote:
Holy f****. Looks like a pile formed on me.

I'll try to read the recent events since I have a bit of time now until EOD.

Could someone explain why SL is being voted? Also this vote situation looks pretty odd. I'd expect it to be a more heated votecount if we were on the right tracks but votes are all over the place..


palmar is spite voting me. no one other then hf and vivax think im scum. Im actively trying to save you right now too I suggest you vote annul with me if you want to live


That seems like a fine place to park my vote for now. I'll be checking what annul has done in the recent hours.

Didn't you just say you were OK voting SL to save you and annul


I said I can vote SL if I die otherwise. But I don't really see why SL is getting votes right now.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:21 GMT
#1434
On June 16 2017 03:23 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 03:21 Skynx wrote:
Annul, can you post some thoughts on someone who is not Koshi or Ruxxar?


HF is strongly town


What was this based on btw annul?

Otherwise nothing really noteworthy in annul's latest posts. Pretty survival-focused I guess.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:23 GMT
#1440
On June 16 2017 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
SL LITERALLY SAID XATALOS ISN'T MAFIA BECAUSE HE HAS DIFFERENT READS

WHERE ARE THE DIFFERENT READS?????????

NOWHERE

THEN HE SAYS IM MAFIA FOR PUSHING HARD READS WHEN HE ALWAYS SAYS THE OPPOSITE

mafia mafia mafia mafia


Do you think I'm a complete sheep?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:27 GMT
#1459
On June 16 2017 07:23 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:21 Xatalos wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:23 annul wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:21 Skynx wrote:
Annul, can you post some thoughts on someone who is not Koshi or Ruxxar?


HF is strongly town


What was this based on btw annul?

Otherwise nothing really noteworthy in annul's latest posts. Pretty survival-focused I guess.


he has no reason whatsoever to be as ridiculously aggro and trolly as a mafia in a game with so many afk


Well I don't really disagree that he leans town. Just thought if it might be TMI to have such a strong read on him. I guess it's not a major point in any case.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:29 GMT
#1472
On June 16 2017 07:25 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:23 Rels wrote:
Don't see a town motivation on annul's vote on Xata then begging Xata to vote SL.
EITHER he prefers to lynch SL, then voting SL at that point puts him above him with 1 hour to see what happens
OR he prefers Xata, but why the begging to Xata so he votes SL then
Doesn't make any sense. Scum. Very likely


explain i'm not reading

Vote situation:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 06:42 Half the Sky wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1


Xatalos (4): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation
annul (3): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast
sicklucker (3): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax
ruXxar (2): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annul
Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (7): Rels, Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity, Grackaroni, Eversince

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw Xatalos out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.

annul could vote Xata or SL. He votes Xata 'cause it's a better defense + he just said rtight now that he scumread Xata more than SL.
Then Xata shows up. and annul asks Xata to vote SL and says he would switch:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:08 annul wrote:
xatalos revote to sicklucker and i will do the same, putting him in the lead

???


Good observation. Dunno why the heck the thought process would be to vote his more townread over his more scumread there.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:33 GMT
#1490
Well in this situation I'd say annul is the best choice clearly. The points on sl (wanting to lead a wagon, defending me in not-such-a-good way) are quite meh. annul also has acted pretty defensively/strategically lately, which fits the scum motive better than sl's aggro.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:36 GMT
#1501
On June 16 2017 07:33 annul wrote:
no, if he switched i actually would too, because he could always switch onto me anyway once he figured out i was bluffing if i was bluffing.

like the math is sound. it is ENTIRELY a self preservation move. i do not want to do this; i would prefer other lynches


Isn't it a bit early to go for self-preservation fully like 60min before EOD.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:42 GMT
#1528
OOPS wtf I've been posting in the voting thread for some reason >.>
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:43 GMT
#1529
Sorry hosts
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:45 GMT
#1540
On June 16 2017 07:40 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:38 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:35 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:33 annul wrote:
no, if he switched i actually would too, because he could always switch onto me anyway once he figured out i was bluffing if i was bluffing.

like the math is sound. it is ENTIRELY a self preservation move. i do not want to do this; i would prefer other lynches

mmmmmmmmm

No the math fucking doesn't. YES you're one vote less with the switch compared to the main wagon. BUT NOW INSTEAD OF LYNCHING YOUR SCUMREAD IF THERE ARE NO OTHER VOTES YOU RE LYNCHING YOUR TOWNREAD.

Without switch:
Xatalos (5): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul
annul (4): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xata
sicklucker (3): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax

With switch:
sicklucker (5): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax, Xata, annul
Xatalos (4): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation
annul (3): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast



in "without switch" you will have xatalos ultimately move onto me making it 5-5 (his best chance to survive), and then darth will hammer me like he said he wanted to earlier. do not misrepresent the game-state yo


I just have the problem with that that you were so focused on preserving yourself 60min before EOD that you thought of possible scenarios, including sacrificing your townreads(..?) ahead of time. When there was still plenty of time to get stuff done. People change their minds.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:54 GMT
#1580
Wait annul is in the lead now?

Will be interesting to see what votes appear from the woodworks at this stage.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:56 GMT
#1593
On June 16 2017 07:54 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:52 annul wrote:
"Fact is if annul flips town Xatalos is confirmed mafia."

"I also believe Xata and Annul are mafia."

all from koshi in less than 2 minutes


dammit stop being slightly convincing


Hmmm....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:57 GMT
#1604
Well whatever, I will accept even a ninja vote I guess

Probably will be some new votes at EOD too..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 15 2017 22:58 GMT
#1607
If I die then annul is pretty sure scum
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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