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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 03 2017 15:27 GMT
#6652
lol at people still using annul's vote as a basis for a scumread. Apart from very specific people, it means NOTHING. It's HARD as scum to defend your teammate knowing that you will be attacked for that. Only people like SL would do it all the time, 'cause that's how he plays. Maybe that's how you would play too VA, but you can't apply it to everyone.

And FTR there are also ruxxar and FF alive on it so it doesn't even make sense.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 03 2017 15:32 GMT
#6655
She claims tracker.
On June 24 2017 00:04 Eversince wrote:
Ok I can't make sense of SL's crumbs/reads.

FF/Chez town is general consensus. That's fine and all, I already read both of them town anyway.
Problem that I'm having here is SL's read on TW was 100% confirmed town.
But SL didn't check FF/Chez. SL visited TW N1, Chez N2.
SL also was very sure Marv's slot is mafia. Never gave this any other chance. Which is why if he got a return of different TW is the town and Chez is the scum. I don't know why he implied FF got included in that at all. Not sure why he would lie about his checks as town. And if TW/Chez came back as same I have a hard time putting TW as town.

I visited Rels N3. He was a total shut in.

Before it gets mentioned, I obviously have no reason to claim right now as mafia. But town needs the info because everyone seems to be having just about as much trouble as I am. I'm obviously not much use right now other than being lynch bait on everyone's mind. So let's kill two birds with one stone.

Chez gets killed.
On June 26 2017 08:01 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 5



"Hi, I'd like to speak with Chez. Concerning upping our shipment."

"I'm sorry ma'am, but I thought he told you," responded the voice on the other end of the phone. "You'll need to talk with his daughter Dana now. Chez is retiring and handing off control of the distillery to his daughter."

"Well then...."


Chezitwo, the distillery owner (Veteran), had retired.

Day 5 has begun.



Day 5 ends in 48 hours at 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
At that time, the player with the most votes gets lynched.
The voting thread is located here.
Countdown:

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 03 2017 15:46 GMT
#6657
On July 04 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you are just playing dumb arent you?

nope. If I didn't understand it, then you obviously didn't say it clearly enough. VA is saying it's super weird that ES (claimed tracker) has been shot over Chez. You answer :

"She tracked Rels on N3 when you shot SL and mafia shot Chezitwo the first time if i remember correctly.
N4 Chezitwo got shot again. Eversince never claimed who she tracked before getting shot on N5."

I thought you were explaining the fact that Chez got shot over ES by saying ES didn't claim yet N4. But apparently you're not saying that. So what are you saying ? Why didn't ES die N4 ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 03 2017 15:53 GMT
#6658
On June 23 2017 08:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 08:24 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 23 2017 08:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Or, bh, we can assume mafia knows the setup and takes that as a claim but hey yeah let's lynch into the two people likely to be town.

We already had a miller flip as well


why would "I have red checks on these guys" be anything but a cop claim, if as mafia, you see that the RED CHECKS ARE ON TWO OF YOUR RED GUYS

man why am I even arguing with you, you're mafia!

Or you see that post, knowing chez and i are towns and that there is a parity cop and think HMm.. maybe sl has a same check on those 2 townies

You'reso scum wowow

oh yeah. Such stupid posts from BH, when he was "speculating" that Chez and FF are scum together. That never, ever, ever made sense.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 03 2017 15:54 GMT
#6660
On July 04 2017 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am saying that. VA was not saying that.
You are saying it is somehow weird Chez got shot (again) over claimed tracker.

VA was saying that I think ? I am indeed saying that. If you're also saying that, then we all agree
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 03 2017 15:56 GMT
#6661
On July 04 2017 00:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
oh right I completely forgot about that. Whoever the scum team is willingly let the tracker get another check and killed chezitwo over them, what the fuck lol.

He is saying exactly that:
On July 04 2017 00:46 Rels wrote:
VA is saying it's super weird that ES (claimed tracker) has been shot over Chez.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 03 2017 16:03 GMT
#6664
FF's early game is mostly "lynch ruxxar" posts with no real intents behind them. Doesn't make him scum, I know he's low impact. I don't understand why he suddenly townreads ruxxar at some point though.

Wow the Palmar sequence doesn't make sense.

FF is scumreading Palmar only for inactivity. Seems to be scumreading BTDT too though.
On June 27 2017 01:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2017 01:06 Palmar wrote:
On June 27 2017 01:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 27 2017 01:04 Palmar wrote:
On June 27 2017 00:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Hi.

Could lynch skynx rels and idk.

Ruxx isn't scum i was just being dumb and bh either turned up the heat because scum was lynched or he's town.

I hate having a job

No likey

U wanna fight or something?

ruxx and skynx aren't really good lynch targets today.

You need to take sides or at least give an opinion on me and btdt

I said ruxx isn't scum so that's handy.

I think you are scummy for just showing up to play now but I haven't actually read your recent posts so there's that.

Is one of your posts a case on btdt? That would make sense


When talking to Palmar, agree with his big case on BTDT:
On June 27 2017 02:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2017 19:14 Palmar wrote:
Holy shit does beentheredonethat's filter look bad when considering Xatalos.

On June 14 2017 20:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Xata you're not saying anything in your posts, you're just commenting on things and speculating about 3rd party

that's superbad


On June 14 2017 21:15 beentheredonethat wrote:
Xata disappeared?


Two random comments with no meat on them and no real attempt to lynch the guy he's calling superbad and disappearing. Instead, when df offers a wagon on Xatalos, it's instead met with (weak) resistance:

On June 14 2017 22:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:40 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Let me do this:
##vote btdt
- Focused on a very small part of this thread.
- Reads seem more opportunistic than real.
- Very strong and closed in his language/thoughts. Not carefree and open.


I can explain it with many words but I am going to keep it at this for the time being.

so I

a) comment intensely on koshi/hf/you
b) scumread you, not following the 3p thing (alhtough a vote is a vote of course)
c) call out annul
d) poke xata

* and I'm opportunistic? Opportinistic would be to vote rayn
* a small part of this thread? the major part of this thread.

how am I not carefree? I think I'm super carefree lol


Let's vote Xata together, right now. You and I. Forever.

While I favour the general idea, can you please state your reasons?


Read the entire quote that follows. On what level are btdt's contributions helpful or insightful at all.

On June 14 2017 22:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:47 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:42 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince.


This makes it real simple.
Lynch eversince.
If green, lynch sicklucker.

Guaranteed 1 scum down.


How is this an intelligent plan at all?

#3 to say that
(I think, maybe more)

darth comes on the town pile.



If he's the third person to say it why is he town??


TIL you can only have one person make a claim and one other person agree with the claim before any other people become suspect

So passive aggressive

but for real, my impression is that darth is catching up and quoting and posting where he deems it appropriate. super gut feeling but I think it's town. not only does he think the same about ruxxar as I do, he also doesn't like Xata apparently and I don't like Xata, too


And through it all, btdt sits on Koshi, despite thinking koshi looks better and Xata worse:

On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all.

I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town.

Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid.

Thats kind of where im at.


btdt ended the day as a single random vote on Koshi instead of trying to kill his scumread. Then he bitched about it in the night:

On June 16 2017 14:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
bad thing: Koshi lynch averted
bad thing #2: annul being lynched over xata
good thing: xata being 2nd wagon

I think a scum!xata will give us lots of indication and I highly suggest xata to be shot at night.


Maybe should have done something about that?

I think there is about 100% chance btdt is mafia

##Vote beentheredonethat

I'm not done with his filter, but this day 1 looks very much terrible. I was getting paranoid that I was being to lenient because like the first 4 people I read actually look like townies, but this guy doesn't look like a townie at all on first glance.

Please give me reasons why I should townread him if anyone has any. To me this is almost a good enough case on it's own.

I actually read this now. One nitpick, why does btdt call for a shot on xata if he's on xatas team?

I totally agree with the logic here though and may sheep you instead now.

But somehow sheep disfo on Palmar:
On June 27 2017 23:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Sheeping disfo onto palmar.

I don't understand. That doesn't make sense. Palmar stops being inactive (so FF only reason to scumread him goes away), his main contribution is a case FF agrees with; but he votes him nonetheless.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 03 2017 16:06 GMT
#6665
On July 04 2017 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so you just assumed that a 22 player game does not have a town protective role.
okay, right.

well I know there is no town prot role now. But yeah that might be why Chez got shot a second time over ES who just claimed; 'cause scum thought she was going to be protected if there was a doc.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 03 2017 16:09 GMT
#6668
On July 04 2017 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2017 01:06 Rels wrote:
On July 04 2017 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so you just assumed that a 22 player game does not have a town protective role.
okay, right.

well I know there is no town prot role now. But yeah that might be why Chez got shot a second time over ES who just claimed; 'cause scum thought she was going to be protected if there was a doc.

that just happened now come to your mind?
like that chez might have tmi because he replaced marv?

well yeah. I know now that there is no doc, but I didn't think about the fact that we didn't know there was no doc when Chez got killed.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 03 2017 16:14 GMT
#6669
On July 03 2017 05:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
The way I see it it's probably skynx from an effort put into scumhunting perspective. I'm also wary of this rels lynch solely based on how you and skynx are both setting me up for next day making me think the mafia knows this will be a mislynch and then I am the game winning ezpz mislynch.

However I am still scumreadig rels and to switch for paranoias sake seems silly.

So probably skynx but I've hardly been scumhunting so take that with a grain of salt

then there is it that I've already talked about. It makes no sense. Skynx is trying to find a relation between me and FF, even says so quite clearly here:
On July 02 2017 22:39 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2017 06:58 disformation wrote:
first bunch of quotes:
fefe say he might be willing to sheep palmar's case on btdt
is also fine with voting rels
sheeps me on palmar
then gets mad cold feet at eod but does nothing

despite being willing to vote rels earlier..

This checks out incredibly with what happened on D1.

he's first on ruxxar
then swtiches on annul, along with ruxxar
admits having no opinion on Xata
Claims xata's filter is bad but doesn't makes him scum
Xata votes annul, he's now having cold feet voting together with sl, ruxxar, xata, grack
does nothing.
(I can provide quotes if needed)

On svt trains eod, he just seems to follow the same pattern. Obviously this is all true if rels is scum.

But FF is arguing that Skynx is preparing his ML when I flip town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 03 2017 16:15 GMT
#6670
and now leaving work. See you later (=
BH / FF
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 03 2017 16:53 GMT
#6675
On July 04 2017 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2017 01:09 Rels wrote:
well yeah. I know now that there is no doc,

how?

'cause the number of blues + Chez flipped a protective role already
Are you playing dumb ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 03 2017 21:18 GMT
#6679
I love playing mafia when people cares about solving the game and gives their max
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 04 2017 19:01 GMT
#6748
On July 05 2017 03:47 ruXxar wrote:
What 100% lost this game from my pov was the belief that there HAD to be mafia on annul.
That train on annul was beyond disgusting.

This was always a bad thought to base the view of the game on.

On July 05 2017 03:47 ruXxar wrote:
Rels

What killed it for me was your activity.
If you just had been more active day 1 and 2 I think this game would have been completely different.
I'm really sad about that .

Inactivity is NAI for some people, myself included. A simple look in the database would have confirmed that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 04 2017 19:02 GMT
#6750
GG WP everyone. TBH we could have won easily and we played horribly aside from the players that got night killed basically )=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 04 2017 19:02 GMT
#6751
Balance was horribly scum favored lol. Wouldn't have made a difference though I think. But still.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 04 2017 19:10 GMT
#6757
On July 05 2017 04:08 Blazinghand wrote:
is it really unbalanced, or did the vigi shoot the cop n3, basically negating two of town's roles in one :V

mm is it unbalanced when tracker can't follow the godfather, 3 things annoys the weak cop and when scum have 2 anti blue shots :thinking:
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 04 2017 20:51 GMT
#6800
On July 05 2017 05:48 sicklucker wrote:
damn if we just lynched rels earlier there was hope

lol. If you had fought for my lynch instead of lynching Grack 'cause he was the first in the list, maybe you wouldn't have been shot
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 04 2017 20:54 GMT
#6803
On July 05 2017 05:54 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 05:51 Rels wrote:
On July 05 2017 05:48 sicklucker wrote:
damn if we just lynched rels earlier there was hope

lol. If you had fought for my lynch instead of lynching Grack 'cause he was the first in the list, maybe you wouldn't have been shot


hypothetical are fun. what if the vig shot the guy everyone wanted him to shoot n1 :D

yeah this I agree
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 04 2017 21:04 GMT
#6807
I think balance was bad, but this was nonetheless a well hosted game. TY hosts
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