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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 18 2017 20:09 GMT
#2753
On June 19 2017 05:07 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2017 05:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
the only thing the hf/koshi kills say is that either

1. there is a 3rd party SK

2. The mafia team has at least one older player/leader


Can you explain what an SK is? I'm too lazy to google



serial killer. usually has a vest so takes 2 hits to die at night and kills 1 player per phase. which would mean smaller mafia team and disjointed kills, makes the game harder for town.

VIvax disappearing after day 1 is his scum meta and he fits the bill as some one that would partake in HF/koshi NKs if there is no such 3p.

definitely concerning.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 18 2017 23:10 GMT
#2808
tier 1 bad day 1 voting

fecalfeast

tier 2

rels, grackaroni

tier 3

eversince, vivax (?) his voting is odd but not necessarily scummy

there has to be 2 mafia in fecal/rels/grack/eversince at the least.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 18 2017 23:13 GMT
#2813
On June 19 2017 08:09 darthfoley wrote:
Waiting on that apology from btdt.

So basically, cop check either Skynx or any of the scummy people on annul's wagon.

Xata being the rb is actually sick. There's probably still a Godfather somewhere hiding, but at least we know the cop can't be blocked.

If for some reason the vigi didn't take the shot last night, take it tonight. Maybe even claim your shot so you don't shoot the cop check? Idk. Probably doesn't matter considering we aren't likely to have a vigi (unless it was one of the AFK people, for example.)

Would appreciate a medic save cuz I'm super duper town. Unless you wanna WIFOM it up. But better to be safe than sorry



skynx actually comes out of this looking surprisingly good, he was 2nd/3rd vote on xatalos which is when a wagon really starts. either a well timed bus or hes just town. Getting a cop check on him would mean annul wagon could be 100% clean though, hes really the only sketchy one there
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 18 2017 23:24 GMT
#2822
On June 19 2017 08:12 ruXxar wrote:
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On June 19 2017 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
tier 1 bad day 1 voting

fecalfeast

tier 2

rels, grackaroni

tier 3

eversince, vivax (?) his voting is odd but not necessarily scummy

there has to be 2 mafia in fecal/rels/grack/eversince at the least.


I'm interested in the FF case.
Please elaborate.


On June 16 2017 03:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
##unvote
##vote annul


Yolo


On June 16 2017 02:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
I know xata is a name being thrown around as scummy but i admit i haven't even checked his filter 😎


starts day tunneling a ruxxar lynch that never happens, xatalos is also on this train. switches purely to save xatalos at this point, zero explanation.

On June 16 2017 04:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
I could vote skynx. Xatas filter isn't great but it doesn't seem scummy to me. He does a lot of commenting on other people's posts but does post a bunch of reads before he goes afk which is helpful


vague post later about his filter, no reason to read it they are on the same team

On June 17 2017 03:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On June 17 2017 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm willing to let ever live for a bit at least.

We have to kill xata and sl ( and ruxxar) first anyway



still tunneling ruxxar even though it makes little sense at this point, with token low hanging fruits added


nonexistant day 2, majority of his filter is day 1


I would be surprised if he wasnt scum honestly
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 18 2017 23:29 GMT
#2824
there's more to it but im too lazy, thats just a quick tldr
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 19 2017 13:35 GMT
#2932
On June 19 2017 22:29 disformation wrote:
fefe actually has a bunch of interactions with annul and a decent scumread on him.
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 03:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
##unvote
##vote annul


Yolo

this post says yolo, but he has a lot of interactions/posts with/about annul prior to that.
e.g.:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 02:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Scumlist:
Annul - very little contribution, out of everything that's happened he decides to focus on a ruxxar post that has been called out multiple times. Worried about being scumread by ruxx more than finding scum.

Grack - I know he has posted but for the life of me can't think of what he posted about or what his reads are. Not good. I just checked his filter and he gives no original reads he just comments on posts, defends ruxxar and throws vague suspicion at darth.

Marv - i have played as scum with marv on my team and he didn't play at all and got lynched day 1 with no fight

Scumish list:

Tw - his townlist looks totally arbitrary
HF - I know I called him town earlier but he has spent the majority of the game participating in shitfights which I'm not a fan of
Ruxx - honestly I don't mind his recent posting I just don't want to be wrong lol

I've been on the toilet for like 15 mins doing this post so i should go back to work

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On June 16 2017 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think if we're letting rucksack live we should kill annul



Look at it collectively as a progression though. After its proved annul is town and xatalos is likely mafia, he still has this same read of ruxxar mafia. its what happens when you dont want to get on too many people's bad sides and you start stagnating your reads as mafia.

Not to mention that first read part looks like a textbook mafia list, 1 town, 1 bus, 1 inactive.

If fecalfeast is mafia I wouldnt be surprised if grack is too
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 19 2017 15:01 GMT
#2974
has anyone ever actually gotten postgame cred for putting a bunch of random names in a post? I don't understand why thats such a common thing.

oh man remember when that guy threw out a bunch of random names in the middle of the game? -snip- look at this fucking sick post bro

never happens.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 19 2017 15:01 GMT
#2975
unless the person quotes their own post, I do see that a lot
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 19 2017 15:54 GMT
#2991
Most standard TL mafia games have godfather/RB.

in the last game of this size HTS made them also have a rolecop.

So im guessing there is godfather and then one other random role.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 19 2017 16:20 GMT
#3011
marv hasnt posted on teamliquid since the /in, it isnt game related
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 20 2017 13:56 GMT
#3440
is btdt usually like that? never played with him.

because pushing the fake cop check (aka they make us decide between lynching scum/scum and its suspicious if he stays alive, in addition to him being townie to begin with) is absolutely insane.

That's borderline policy lynch unless that's just his usual
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 20 2017 14:56 GMT
#3475
there isnt much cases to be made beyond the voting analysis. I regret not being here for that deadline now that it's the focal point of this game. I'm going to take a quick look at something that felt off.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 20 2017 15:03 GMT
#3478
So a common ground between DF and vivax the most recent NKs was Grack/rayn as targets.

Vivax also scumread ES/me.

DF softed blue all yesterday but he wasn't, could be another reason he died besides being very town.

So I see no reason to oppose a grack lynch with this info.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 20 2017 15:13 GMT
#3484
have I read rayn's filter extensively? no not really. Players like that open themselves up to being late game vetted. I have no reason to look at him right now. Obviously a lot of rayn's alignment depends on yours, gamewise and due to the night kills. There is a veteran presence on the scum team I would expect, especially after that vivax NK. I don't feel like he was universally TR or particularly worrisome, so he either got NK'd out of respect or because he was right.

I have always operated from a mechanical standpoint, I don't do convos
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 20 2017 15:15 GMT
#3485
I will say that I thought rayn was town until I read these 2 NK'd filters, does worry me a bit since there arent that many people scumreading him besides you as well
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 20 2017 17:55 GMT
#3518
was I ever actually lynched by your RNG? maybe once I cant remember.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 20 2017 18:53 GMT
#3543
I am quickly realizing why the mafia team is just killing off anyone sane instead of strategic NKs, there is a lot of fidget spinners in this game.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 20 2017 22:04 GMT
#3685
despite people claiming autopilot this phase looks like anything but. The resistance and waffling today makes me feel pretty good about grack vote, its not going smoothly at all
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 21 2017 16:48 GMT
#3988
i wont even be mad if we lynch town, this looks like its shaping up to me another tasty town vs scum lynch
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 21 2017 17:07 GMT
#3993
the bad news is that if SL does get ahead he will fakeclaim blue role regardless if he is green blue or red. and then deadline will be a shit show.

hopefully people ignore that when it happens
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