EPT[N] TL Mafia LXXV - Page 12
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On June 16 2017 20:29 Vivax wrote: Nevermind that btdt I thought that the Xata read was before the lynch . You actually had no opinion on Xata for the entirety of D1, or I'm not seeing it. This is really false. Btdt was clear in stating his supposed his "scumread" on Xata as my previous post shows. Anyways, I don't think he's a lynch anytime soon. But keep an eye out for the wily Viennese bonbon | ||
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Koshi I'll make you proud with another scum lynch | ||
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On June 19 2017 18:01 beentheredonethat wrote: like, xata posted baby seals at some point so he conceded. that makes it super likely that there are scummers on the xata wagon to gain towncred. He conceded because no one bought his fake ass cop claim except for you lol | ||
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On June 19 2017 18:36 beentheredonethat wrote: I think it's possible for darth, skynx and you to be scum Skynx and darth over you though. Let me get some of what you're smoking please. There's like a 0.1% chance I'm mafia yet you say the person scum!Xata "red checked" is more town than the person/main reason Xata died in the first place | ||
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On June 19 2017 18:13 beentheredonethat wrote: two wagons, one scum, one town, and even scum roleblocker. so there must be scum on the annul wagon, yep. and probably one or more scum on xata wagon, being in the qt like "meh, I'll just stay on Xata to gain bus cred" fair distribution IMHO "One or more scum" lol the mafia RB is critical without medic/cop flipped. The idea that 40% of the mafia team, assuming there are five mafia, would be okay with the RB going down D1 just for some town cred is pretty silly. | ||
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On June 19 2017 19:03 beentheredonethat wrote: I'm interested in the math behind this Trump-like "0.1% chance I'm mafia" statement. It's plain bullshit. You pushed a scummer and went through it, congrats, I did the same, except I afk'ed D1 and ended up voting Koshi instead of Xata. Yet you scumread me and claim to be 99.9% town? Lol, stop equating my pushing with yours. I actually voted for the scum while you wasted yours on confirmed town for bullshit reasons of one sentence in one post lol. | ||
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On June 19 2017 21:21 beentheredonethat wrote: My vote on or off Xata was super irrelevant D2. I could've voted Hillary, Trump, Xata or he-who-must-not-be-named. No difference at all. And how is Chezitwo confirmed town? And of course you're right, I cannot equate your push with mine. After all, my push was earlier than yours and you picked up what I said, then you proceeded to get scum lynched. Good stuff but that doesn't make me scum; nor does it confirm you as town. Of course it puts you super high on the town list but given the ease with which Xata went down (no fight, auto, no scum even bothering to put someone else on the table in spite of the Ruxxar bait) I'm not clearing anyone who pushed him yet. I never said Chezitwo was confirmed town | ||
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On June 19 2017 21:33 disformation wrote: though. that bait was like 3mins b4 deadline. how likely is it that two ppl bite? very unlikely | ||
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Really interesting analysis regarding the FF "bait," disformation. I'm still surprised with how heavy Vivax has been TRing him | ||
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On June 19 2017 21:57 disformation wrote: so we basically have 5 ppl with really weak reads on xata voting annul. grack/rels/es/fefe/sicklucker Cop check into that. If there's a vigi, I think vigi should shoot into that, and claim who they're shooting so the cop doesn't check that person and waste it. Plus there's no RB so vigi shot goes through 100% even with a claim. + Show Spoiler + That plan gives mafia the chance to fake claim vigi to scare cop away from checking someone, but that should be pretty easy to spot. | ||
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I've never played with FF before, outside of that cell game 2 years ago, so i'm not sure how he plays. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote: Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter. It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game. I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great. Weird that he wants to vote Koshi while also scumreading annul for his commitment to the Koshi push. On June 16 2017 07:30 Grackaroni wrote: Xatalos was pretty meh. I legitimately don't think he has been any more meh than disfo. The one scum game I remember from him he played a very aggressive style. On June 16 2017 07:55 Grackaroni wrote: I don't have much to say beyond what I've said decently in my filter. Annul seems like a better lynch than Xatalos to me. HF push on SL seems a lot more agenda driven than HF believing he has a bulletproof case. There's really only that one previous line I quoted as to why he thinks annul is a better lynch than Xatalos. Very weak defense right here. This is basically his entire filter btw. Super lackluster Rels: + Show Spoiler + On June 15 2017 08:51 Rels wrote: My thoughts catching up. Will vote marv tomorrow if he still haven't posted. Otherwise ruxxar or Eversince. ruxxar: - "I like it" on a disfo post that didn't deserve any of it. Not that it deserved scum points. But nothing to like in it. - buying SL's red check. Propose we lynch Eversince, then SL if she flips green. No game vision. Gullible. Skynx: - good first post on ruxxar's post where he said "I liked it". Koshi: - didn't understand Skynx' post on ruxxar when it was the best post in the thread yet. Uncharacteristic. Bad. - called rayn's attack on bad disfo a defense. Bad. - good post on BTBT being bad - a Koshi town post "mm Vivax might be mafia" out of nowhere - p35. Lock town. disfo: - pretty gullible. That's scummy. Bought SL's red check. - had a throwaway read on Koshi, HF picked it up, and he had a weird reason to vote Koshi. Weird stuff all around. rayn: - picked up that above stuff on disfo. Good. Vivax: - entered the thread liking Skynx' post. Good. - liking the annul's post I liked. Good. BTDT: - called Koshi town for no reason - turned around on voting Koshi when he decided HF was serious on Koshi - townie posts though (p 21) annul: - calling the HF vs Koshi as it is pretty likely to be (HF screwing around) => good DF: - also understanding Skynx post + doing his own thing (p 18). Dunno why he doesn't like Xata though. Didnt find anything Xata did so far was AI. - nice post explaining why Xata is scummy. Convincing too, the bit where Xata missed Skynx' logic. Damdred: - weird that he starts playing calling some people scummy, when usually he's super unsure D1 and tries to build a "no-lynch" list rather than the opposite. - though he's thinking about the game as a whole. Having a "rayn scum means Koshi no scum" mindset. Even though that mindset is bad, especially D1, it's townie. FF: - liking the question to ruxxar. Is evolving his read based on what's happening. Doubting too, then getting back to it. Eversince: - answering FF's questions about what are the things against rayn, then saying she doesn't see the things against rayn. Weird. Maybe scum and entered the thread with an answer to FF to have an easy good looking first post. Grack: - weird, against sentiment reads, but I can follow them. Good. Xata: - good post on ruxxar. rayn: - LOL butthurt defense in his huge post when it was 100% uneeded, just for the ego. Pretty likely town. So here, annul is good = town. Xata is also good = town. But he likes my case on Xata and calls it convincing. On June 16 2017 07:05 Rels wrote: I don't think Xata is scum. I can follow his logic in his filter. Uhh... okay. Never explains this. This feels like a little TMI from Rels. I don't think Xata was "assuming" annul was town, but I could be wrong. These posts actually make Rels look much better, I think. On June 16 2017 07:16 Rels wrote: and WTF annul if you're scumreading SL way more than Xata why did you vote Xata instead of SL ? When voting SL then: would have put SL over you ? On June 16 2017 07:23 Rels wrote: Don't see a town motivation on annul's vote on Xata then begging Xata to vote SL. EITHER he prefers to lynch SL, then voting SL at that point puts him above him with 1 hour to see what happens OR he prefers Xata, but why the begging to Xata so he votes SL then Doesn't make any sense. Scum. Very likely On June 16 2017 07:38 Rels wrote: No the math fucking doesn't. YES you're one vote less with the switch compared to the main wagon. BUT NOW INSTEAD OF LYNCHING YOUR SCUMREAD IF THERE ARE NO OTHER VOTES YOU RE LYNCHING YOUR TOWNREAD. Without switch: Xatalos (5): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul annul (4): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xata sicklucker (3): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax With switch: sicklucker (5): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax, Xata, annul Xatalos (4): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation annul (3): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast I still don't like how Rels discussed annul/Xata early game, and that much of his vote on annul came EoD rather than for reasons earlier. But the logic is sound and much better than Grack's. Rels could still be scum, but he hid his tracks pretty well through the vote | ||
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I mean, maybe annul voting SL would have changed things. But people were already speculating annul+Xata both scum, so him moving to SL would further perpetuate that idea. So town!annul votes Xata thinking that 1) it's more likely to actually save him than moving to SL, and 2) it defends against the idea that Xata/annul are on scum team together. | ||
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17 people left in the game, probably 12 or 13v4 depending if there's 3p. Scum get 2 kp tonight, and there might be 3p KP. So hopefully medic/jk/whatever can save someone. At least we have 2 checks after tonight without a roleblock Theres probably 3 or 4 town roles. Hopefully they don't get shot tonight. I would hate to die before revealing all that I know | ||
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