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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 11:32 GMT
#3911
On June 16 2017 18:15 ruXxar wrote:
I'm very afraid for DF. He's very very likely to be a mafia kill tonight.

He's basically 100% confirmed town in my eyes, and is very dangerous to the mafia.

I really hope we can somehow make him live through the night somehow.

LOL
is that too obvious ? It was during N1. It really looks like he was trying to get the doc the protect DF. But it seems so obvious ...
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 11:34 GMT
#3912
On June 21 2017 20:31 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 20:23 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2017 20:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 21 2017 20:05 Rels wrote:
BTDT join us in that "lets see if SL is really unlynchable" quest. Good reward at the end I promise

No, we're lynching into Grack or Skynx today. I dived SL's filter with the assumption he was scum and he pushed annul so hard D1 that I didn't really think that scum would do this.

Like, he was all over it, scumreading HF super hard and then HF is the nightkill. He's also saying very often "i'm sicklucker i'm super good" while making jaw-droppingly weird reads

I think that's town-sicklucker

but more importantly I think skynx/grack are the better lynch.

the first part is not true. First, SL is actually one of the few players I know who is NOT afraid to protect his partner at all cost if he can. He has a certain logic that he follows. Second, consider that there was also the possiblity of HIM being lynched instead of Xata or annul. So it makes sense that he needed to be active.
About HF, this means nothing. Scumreading someone super hard then killing him proves nothing. Especially since HF is a super strong player for any scum team; and that he was scumreading SL pretty hard.
Finally, this is not true: "He's also saying very often "i'm sicklucker i'm super good" while making jaw-droppingly weird reads." On the contrary, I'm waiting for the weird smart post and they're not coming.

He did push Annul. It's true, I can bring up 5-10 posts where he's pushing Annul and/or talking people into lynching Annul.

Having also read the summary of why you're scumreading him, I think it's mainly meta reasons. I can see your points in saying "it's NAI if you push a town lynch super hard or scum read someone who flips immediately", so yeah you're right.

I think he shouldn't be the lynch today. Flipping Grack/Skynx gives us a lot of information, we can associate a lot and we'll be able to read more into other people's reads, which is like the exact ground where sicklucker can do the weird good posting that you expect him to do.

Thing is, I'm more sure SL is scum than everybody else. I can switch to Skynx if SL become the town god he is when he's pushed. But until that happens we should pressure him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 11:36 GMT
#3913
Mm. Dunno what to think about FF's bait.
On June 16 2017 20:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
I can't stay on this wagon with ruxx xata sl and grack sooo I'm gonna hop onto xata

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Still haven't done it i was hoping to bait someone to hammer


I was baited.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 11:42 GMT
#3914
that puts FF in the spotlight ? That he says he's gonna vote Xata in a super contested vote, but is not doing it because "bait". If xata is his partner, he would probably not do that. Cause it looks bad, to say he's gonna vote his partner but not doing it. If Xata flips later in the game it's bad.
Could be WIFOM though. Not gonna give too many town points. But I think it's more likely to come from town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 11:44 GMT
#3915
More killer stuff against SL, during N1. He can't explain why suddenly his Xata read changes just because it was a contested lynch. If he's scum he KNOWS Xata is gonna be probably killed soon, maybe even vig'd.
On June 16 2017 21:30 sicklucker wrote:
This is my tenitive reads list from most likely town to most likely scum.

Fecalfeast
darthfoley
Rels
disformation
Palmar
Ruxxar
raynpelikoneet
Koshi

^ id be kind of surprised if these guys were scum
btdm
ruXxar
Tumblewood
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Skynx
Vivax
Eversince
Holyflare
marvellosity

I doubt its that accurate since theres alot of people and just started but I thought id share about where my heads at

On June 16 2017 21:36 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 16 2017 21:30 sicklucker wrote:
This is my tenitive reads list from most likely town to most likely scum.

Fecalfeast
darthfoley
Rels
disformation
Palmar
Ruxxar
raynpelikoneet
Koshi

^ id be kind of surprised if these guys were scum
btdm
ruXxar
Tumblewood
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Skynx
Vivax
Eversince
Holyflare
marvellosity

I doubt its that accurate since theres alot of people and just started but I thought id share about where my heads at


Nothing has changed. Absolutely 0 things have changed since you independently town read Xatalos based on his play. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Why is he not on your town list?

On June 16 2017 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
You're so full of crap!

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On June 16 2017 04:54 sicklucker wrote:
meh I dont think xatas filter is that bad. at least his ideas are unconventional to the thread which I kind of expect his town play


Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:48 sicklucker wrote:
it kind of makes it easy that all my town reads are voting annul (ff rels ruxxarand to a lesser degree xata)


Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:49 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.


sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game

sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers

sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia

sl is mafia


I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy



What has changed since this in any way that changes Xatalos' alignment?


On June 16 2017 21:56 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
You're so full of crap!

On June 16 2017 04:54 sicklucker wrote:
meh I dont think xatas filter is that bad. at least his ideas are unconventional to the thread which I kind of expect his town play


On June 16 2017 07:48 sicklucker wrote:
it kind of makes it easy that all my town reads are voting annul (ff rels ruxxarand to a lesser degree xata)


On June 16 2017 07:49 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.


sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game

sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers

sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia

sl is mafia


I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy



What has changed since this in any way that changes Xatalos' alignment?


the other wagon was town in a really close and contested vote...

That highly suggests hes mafia you know this your just trying to make me look bad

On June 16 2017 21:58 Holyflare wrote:
I don't give a crap what mafia nonsense you're spouting. You led a wagon on a towny and have absolutely no reason to town read xata. I have MULTIPLE times corrected you that xata doesn't scum read rayn. Which is THE ONLY reason you said you town read Xata despite saying he has opposite readS!! to the thread, you could only quote one and it was wrong.

Then you pushed a wagon on a guy who was not scummy, openly referenced his grand survival plan multiple times and then even you acknowledged he was looking towny.

Then you try and take someone referencing the one troll post you did early game (because let's face it you really did nothing else) as a slight town read because she didn't call you mafia from one post. The thing is she didn't call you town either.

You're worming your way through falsehoods, trying to push events that never happened. Palmar didn't spite vote you from last game, I didn't vote you with no case, vivax wasn't "being bad". All of these are reconstructions of what is actually happening in the game. You even said if palmar was around he'd move his vote but he was around and said he'd keep it there.

Then Eversince comes and has no reason not to vote you. Xatalos' flip will certainly give a shit tonne of information and i hope to god he's town because then her not voting you is the final nail in your coffin.

On June 16 2017 22:02 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 08:16 sicklucker wrote:
to be fair tho I mostly drove the close lynch. and I know im town so from my perspective I dont think xata necessary has to be mafia. but I completely understand people who think he and I am from what happened I might think the same


This is posted after the lynch. You don't even think it makes him mafia. A contested lynch means shit all. It's mafias job to make lynches mean nothing. It could be two towns, one mafia one town, anything. You haven't once used any information from it to make the reads nonsense you're posting.

You have me in a lynch list with xatalos who you are now calling mafia despite me trying to also hammer him. You have really really bad reads in this list. You have Eversince who has been pushed by vivax for eternity and myself since the flip, no evaluation.

You take bull shit posts and turn it into bigger bull shit reads and have no game sense. This is not the town SL I know that is solving conspiracy theories. This is an sl who more than likely saw his buddy xatalos up for lynch and fabricated nonsense to save him. When was the last time you tried on a day 1? When was there a time you've ever given a shit enough for a day 1 lynch to matter so much over a really thin town read on xata? Never, that's when.

I will make people see the light. Fiery vengeance will rain down upon you.

On June 16 2017 22:06 sicklucker wrote:
alright im not arguing with a lawyer anymore. unless your up for lynch

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 11:46 GMT
#3917
that concludes my lunch break. Still kinda around when I have to wait for compilation to end. p:
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 11:59 GMT
#3920
On June 21 2017 20:56 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 19:56 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2017 14:51 Half the Sky wrote:
Vote Count - Day 3


Grackaroni (5): ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Chezitwo, beentheredonethat, VayneAuthority
sicklucker (3): disformation, Palmar, Grackaroni
Rels (2): sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Skynx
raynpelikoneet (1): Rels
Skynx (1): Palmar, Skynx
ruXxar (0): Blazinghand
Palmar (0): disformation
beentheredonethat (0): disformation

Not voted (3): Tumblewood, Eversince, Blazinghand

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw Grackaroni out of her whiskey bar.
Day 3 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.


looks like I forgot to change my vote
##Unvote
##Vote sicklucker


You still haven't voted.

Oh yeah.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 12:00 GMT
#3922
the irony of calling my reads surface level when he's raging at me on surface level details
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 12:27 GMT
#3928
On June 21 2017 21:24 Chezitwo wrote:
Rels is slowly climbing up the towny ladder. Very good.

good. Now if that could make SL climbing your vote ladder that would be even better
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 13:23 GMT
#3947
TBH Palmar 3P could make sense.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 23:31 GMT
#4408
yo I'm kinda drunk
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 23:32 GMT
#4409
great lynvh guys. what happened to the wagon of justice ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 23:37 GMT
#4411
On June 22 2017 03:55 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 03:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ruxxar is all about unflipped association this game.

BH do you have reads? I haven't read your filter or anything just wondering


other than Rels = Scum not really no, I've been a useless piece of crap

Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 03:49 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:44 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:16 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:14 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:12 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:04 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 22 2017 02:47 ruXxar wrote:
The short of it is this:

Vote logic tells me that grack and SL are not the same faction.
Who you believe is more scummy is up to you.


so why would you need to throw logic out the window to vote SL then


Because people are voting together with grack who they called scum just a short while a ago.

Now they call SL scum and claim they both can be scum.

In no sane world are SL and grack scum together.


hmm so what do you think about Rels


I think rels is scum.


Why not vote him then, or is grack your stronger scumread

On June 22 2017 03:21 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:16 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:14 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:12 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:04 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 22 2017 02:47 ruXxar wrote:
The short of it is this:

Vote logic tells me that grack and SL are not the same faction.
Who you believe is more scummy is up to you.


so why would you need to throw logic out the window to vote SL then


Because people are voting together with grack who they called scum just a short while a ago.

Now they call SL scum and claim they both can be scum.

In no sane world are SL and grack scum together.


hmm so what do you think about Rels


I think rels is scum.


Which is why rels is town reading grack so hard.
Also why grack decided to vote for SL over Rels when they were even in votes.


IS the Rels read based entirely on the grack read? is it pure unflipped association?


No.
I've had rels as a secondary scum read since after day 2.
Just a hair behind grack.


what do you think of Rels faking the dumbtells?

I thought that was not your reason to scumread me ?
On June 21 2017 08:08 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 07:26 Rels wrote:
your reason to scumread me is so bad too. Because I dumbtelled. I understand not taking the dumbtell into account 'cause it can be faked. But making it a basis for a scumread is nonsense


LOL is this really your reasoning, like damn

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 23:38 GMT
#4413
On June 22 2017 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:
it rolled right over grack

I hope you're drinking to celebrate the EM majority! http://i.imgur.com/Gjn4KIK.png

lol fuck that dude. No music celebration in the US the first day of summer ? I thought it was an international thing
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 23:38 GMT
#4414
On June 22 2017 08:38 ruXxar wrote:
Don't let the paranoia set in.
This game is basically won.

We lynch sicklucker and it's gg.

OH YEAH LETS CONTINUE AUTO LYNCHING DOWN A LIST
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 23:41 GMT
#4418
On June 22 2017 08:40 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 08:38 Rels wrote:
On June 22 2017 08:38 ruXxar wrote:
Don't let the paranoia set in.
This game is basically won.

We lynch sicklucker and it's gg.

OH YEAH LETS CONTINUE AUTO LYNCHING DOWN A LIST


What are you complaining about, it's your scum read.

mm IDK maybe what I'm complaining is explicitely stated in the post you just quoted
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 23:42 GMT
#4420
On June 22 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 08:37 Rels wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:55 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ruxxar is all about unflipped association this game.

BH do you have reads? I haven't read your filter or anything just wondering


other than Rels = Scum not really no, I've been a useless piece of crap

On June 22 2017 03:49 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:44 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:16 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:14 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:12 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:04 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 22 2017 02:47 ruXxar wrote:
The short of it is this:

Vote logic tells me that grack and SL are not the same faction.
Who you believe is more scummy is up to you.


so why would you need to throw logic out the window to vote SL then


Because people are voting together with grack who they called scum just a short while a ago.

Now they call SL scum and claim they both can be scum.

In no sane world are SL and grack scum together.


hmm so what do you think about Rels


I think rels is scum.


Why not vote him then, or is grack your stronger scumread

On June 22 2017 03:21 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:16 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:14 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:12 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:04 Blazinghand wrote:
[quote]

so why would you need to throw logic out the window to vote SL then


Because people are voting together with grack who they called scum just a short while a ago.

Now they call SL scum and claim they both can be scum.

In no sane world are SL and grack scum together.


hmm so what do you think about Rels


I think rels is scum.


Which is why rels is town reading grack so hard.
Also why grack decided to vote for SL over Rels when they were even in votes.


IS the Rels read based entirely on the grack read? is it pure unflipped association?


No.
I've had rels as a secondary scum read since after day 2.
Just a hair behind grack.


what do you think of Rels faking the dumbtells?

I thought that was not your reason to scumread me ?
On June 21 2017 08:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 21 2017 07:26 Rels wrote:
your reason to scumread me is so bad too. Because I dumbtelled. I understand not taking the dumbtell into account 'cause it can be faked. But making it a basis for a scumread is nonsense


LOL is this really your reasoning, like damn



Yes I was asking him what he thought of that

Why did you answer me "LOL it this really your reasonning" then ? It seems like what I've said at that point was wrong but it was actually true.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 23:45 GMT
#4424
ruxxar is basically a troll
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 23:47 GMT
#4428
On June 22 2017 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 08:42 Rels wrote:
On June 22 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 22 2017 08:37 Rels wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:55 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ruxxar is all about unflipped association this game.

BH do you have reads? I haven't read your filter or anything just wondering


other than Rels = Scum not really no, I've been a useless piece of crap

On June 22 2017 03:49 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:44 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:16 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:14 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:12 ruXxar wrote:
[quote]

Because people are voting together with grack who they called scum just a short while a ago.

Now they call SL scum and claim they both can be scum.

In no sane world are SL and grack scum together.


hmm so what do you think about Rels


I think rels is scum.


Why not vote him then, or is grack your stronger scumread

On June 22 2017 03:21 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:16 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 03:14 Blazinghand wrote:
[quote]

hmm so what do you think about Rels


I think rels is scum.


Which is why rels is town reading grack so hard.
Also why grack decided to vote for SL over Rels when they were even in votes.


IS the Rels read based entirely on the grack read? is it pure unflipped association?


No.
I've had rels as a secondary scum read since after day 2.
Just a hair behind grack.


what do you think of Rels faking the dumbtells?

I thought that was not your reason to scumread me ?
On June 21 2017 08:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 21 2017 07:26 Rels wrote:
your reason to scumread me is so bad too. Because I dumbtelled. I understand not taking the dumbtell into account 'cause it can be faked. But making it a basis for a scumread is nonsense


LOL is this really your reasoning, like damn



Yes I was asking him what he thought of that

Why did you answer me "LOL it this really your reasonning" then ? It seems like what I've said at that point was wrong but it was actually true.


...I said it because I disagreed with your reasoning, and instead agreed with my own. It was like, making fun of you. I was calling your reasoning bad. You were trying to reason that MY reasoning was bad, and I was like "no, YOUR reasoning is bad". Then, I proceeded to ask someone else about my, good, reasoning. Do you not understand this thought process here?

OK. Then your scumread don't make sense to me. Someone making a dumbtell is not a basis for a scumread. It happens all the time. It can also be faked, no doubt about that. But I don't get why it's a scumtell.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2017 23:49 GMT
#4430
On June 22 2017 08:47 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 08:45 Rels wrote:
ruxxar is basically a troll


So you don't want to lynch sicklucker?

Yes I want to lynch SL.
One of my main reason thinking you're scum is that you have fixated read that don't chnage, and that you're following a list. That's not how you play mafia. But that's an easy game to play as scum. So I don't like you saying "just gotta lynch SL and it's GG", even if I want to murder SL.
I also think you're playing dumb intentionally right now because this is like really, really, really obvious to figure out.
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