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I think Palmar's explanation makes sense, but I have problems with my early D1 as either alignment (##selfmeta) and Rels hasn't been playing very well lately (no offense). So I kinda can Rels see with a weak opening as either alignment.
That being said I think I'll throw him into my scum lean pool.
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scum lean pool atm:
Trfel and Rels
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Eh, what do you think of Trfel?
Am I going full OMGUS on a town here, cause he is pushing me over nothing, or is he scum pushing me over nothing?
Would actually like some pressure on Rels, so he comes back and actually plays.
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Yes Vivax much town. wow.
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On August 29 2016 06:50 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:44 disformation wrote:
Eh, what do you think of Trfel?
Am I going full OMGUS on a town here, cause he is pushing me over nothing, or is he scum pushing me over nothing?
Would actually like some pressure on Rels, so he comes back and actually plays. He saw how townie you played in the last game, did he build a lot of respect from you of it, because I would think he would find easier targets, you know what I mean?
when I entered the game last game a lot of ppl scum read me. E.g. Hats though I would very likely be scum.
But your argument makes a lot of sense. Unless Trfel is breaking meta hardcore I don't think he would push me like this right of the bat.
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On August 29 2016 06:50 Trfel wrote:Do you not agree about Palmar?
I would agree with a town lean, do not agree with the very, as of so far.
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On August 29 2016 06:56 Palmar wrote:
I declare this game to be a case game. This means that if you want someone to get lynched, you post a case. Don't just talk in stupid circles and spam for ages, make a case, summarize your points and make it concise.
cool.
will probably have to work on the concise thing, though.
also getting late here, so I'm out. cu guys tomorrow. <3
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On August 29 2016 07:00 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:55 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning. Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying. You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong? More or less. I think he was way more drawn to the Rels issue than to yours which he initially mentioned. But why would he? Does he just have fun antagonizing Palmar? Is he more protective of Rels for other reasons? Okay, think I get what you're saying. Tumblewood, I'd appreciate an explanation  Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:53 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 06:50 scott31337 wrote:On August 29 2016 06:44 disformation wrote:
Eh, what do you think of Trfel?
Am I going full OMGUS on a town here, cause he is pushing me over nothing, or is he scum pushing me over nothing?
Would actually like some pressure on Rels, so he comes back and actually plays. He saw how townie you played in the last game, did he build a lot of respect from you of it, because I would think he would find easier targets, you know what I mean? when I entered the game last game a lot of ppl scum read me. E.g. Hats though I would very likely be scum. But your argument makes a lot of sense. Unless Trfel is breaking meta hardcore I don't think he would push me like this right of the bat. Disformation, last question for now, when you say "breaking meta", what are you referring to?
as scum you like to avoid spotlight very much. this game you basically are screaming for that. see your opener for example.
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breaking meta refers to trying to overcome meta and do things that normally are not in your town/scum range.
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On August 29 2016 07:04 Koshi wrote:
I miss being God. So much fun.
You liked me being God disformation?
i thought you would revive/resurrect me near eod. 
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On August 29 2016 07:08 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 07:08 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 07:04 Koshi wrote:
I miss being God. So much fun.
You liked me being God disformation? i thought you would revive/resurrect me near eod. I saw it in obs qt. hahahahahaha dat wishful thinking.
yup. but you guys played really well and we fucked up the factory so incredible hard that i cabt complain about the loss.
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On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 05:59 Trfel wrote:Beentheredonethat is the worst cohost on TL. I didn't think he would be cruel enough to make me mafia two games in a row Trfel should know better than to open like this as town. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:18 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 06:11 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 06:08 Trfel wrote:Disformation, I find it very odd that you felt the need to justify your earlier post after Vivax made an obviously joking statement. Please explain? Vivax was making a joke? Okay, joke was probably not the best word. Try "light-hearted comment" instead. 1. You posted at the start of the game that you were confirmed town. I am assuming here (correct me if I am wrong) that the reason that you are (supposedly) confirmed town is that you made the first post. I am also assuming (again, correct me if I am wrong) that everyone is aware that being confirmed town by virtue of having the first post in the game is a joke. 2. Vivax points out that you are not in fact confirmed town (and again, we're assuming that this is in fact a true statement). 3. You respond to Vivax here. I'm interested in why you responded in the post mentioned in (3) above. This expansion is pretty bad. Vivax had the only correct response to Trfel's "I am scum" post. This post and the expansion from it are bad. I associate that more with scum!trfel but he can be bad as town too. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:20 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 06:18 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 06:11 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 06:08 Trfel wrote:Disformation, I find it very odd that you felt the need to justify your earlier post after Vivax made an obviously joking statement. Please explain? Vivax was making a joke? Okay, joke was probably not the best word. Try "light-hearted comment" instead. 1. You posted at the start of the game that you were confirmed town. I am assuming here (correct me if I am wrong) that the reason that you are (supposedly) confirmed town is that you made the first post. I am also assuming (again, correct me if I am wrong) that everyone is aware that being confirmed town by virtue of having the first post in the game is a joke. 2. Vivax points out that you are not in fact confirmed town (and again, we're assuming that this is in fact a true statement). 3. You respond to Vivax here. I'm interested in why you responded in the post mentioned in (3) above. yes yes yes why not? This post is kinda towny. I wish the "why not?" weren't a question. The confident "come at me bro" aspect of it I like, but the question mark throws a damper on that somewhat. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that. not a big fan of this post. "I'll tell you what I'm going to talk about. Say nothing meaninful about it. Give random townread." Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:25 Palmar wrote:
1st page analysis suggests Rels is 100% mafia. Curious if plammar being plammar or if actual read. I'm sure he'll talk about in some put me to sleep way. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:26 scott31337 wrote:On August 29 2016 06:25 Palmar wrote:
1st page analysis suggests Rels is 100% mafia. Palmar playing on a weekend is extremely suspicious. This is surprisingly not an awful observation. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:31 Palmar wrote:
ok is no one going to ask me how I came up with my theory? what is this? confirmed not reading Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:32 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 06:30 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 06:26 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 06:23 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 06:20 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 06:18 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 06:11 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 06:08 Trfel wrote:Disformation, I find it very odd that you felt the need to justify your earlier post after Vivax made an obviously joking statement. Please explain? Vivax was making a joke? Okay, joke was probably not the best word. Try "light-hearted comment" instead. 1. You posted at the start of the game that you were confirmed town. I am assuming here (correct me if I am wrong) that the reason that you are (supposedly) confirmed town is that you made the first post. I am also assuming (again, correct me if I am wrong) that everyone is aware that being confirmed town by virtue of having the first post in the game is a joke. 2. Vivax points out that you are not in fact confirmed town (and again, we're assuming that this is in fact a true statement). 3. You respond to Vivax here. I'm interested in why you responded in the post mentioned in (3) above. yes yes yes why not? So the reason you posted that is just because you feel that there's no reason not to? Because to me, it seems like not only a pointless statement, but also averting attention by saying "Look, I did the same thing that someone else did! That's the explanation!" instead of speaking for yourself. It feels a bit out of place. Am I missing something? averting attention away from what? Short answer: yourself + Show Spoiler [Long Answer] +It's one thing to say, "here are my thoughts". It's another to say, "here are someone else's thoughts, shown over here, and so I'm doing the same thing". This is made much greater in a game of mafia, because even though people don't know your alignment, they know that Damdred was town in that game and did it as town, so therefore the actions that you took are sensible for town.
Instead of simply ignoring it (which is perfectly valid) or providing an explanation that is your own words, and your own ideas, instead of someone else's. I don't believe you believe that crap this early in the game. You are def. trying to make an elephant out of nothing here. Classical scum. ##vote Trfel I really don't get this post. I feel like any decent player would've ignored this shit already regardless of alignment. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:33 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 06:30 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 06:29 Palmar wrote:
This is not a joke btw. Rels is probably mafia. please enlighten me. for instantly disappearing after posting a 2 character post? Is that a meta thing for him? Ah fantastic. No, it's absolutely not a meta thing. You see, one of the most underrated difficult things to do in mafia is to "enter" the thread. Rels' entrance was, unlike just about everyone else on the frontpage, completely unattached to the game or to anything else going on in it. If he was in the thread at the time, he definitely had the time to read the like... 5? posts that had been posted, or at least stuck around to say one or two more things. But no, he came into the thread, because there is an inherent pressure on people to actually participate in threads, especially mafia feel like "I must post". Yet he clearly had no real will or intention to stay in the thread, as his silence since that one greeting proves. He is, of the people that posted early, by far the most likely to be mafia. I am not impressed. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 06:35 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe palmar's mafia Please explain? nah no thanks Minus points here. I figured his "maybe plammar is mafia" post was just a verbal jab. This makes it seem like he was intending to do more with it but meh. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:41 disformation wrote:
I think Palmar's explanation makes sense, but I have problems with my early D1 as either alignment (##selfmeta) and Rels hasn't been playing very well lately (no offense). So I kinda can Rels see with a weak opening as either alignment.
That being said I think I'll throw him into my scum lean pool. useless passive rehash Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning. I actually like this post. I don't agree with it, but there's thought behind it. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning. Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying. You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong? I like Trfel picking up on this post. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 07:00 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 06:55 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning. Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying. You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong? More or less. I think he was way more drawn to the Rels issue than to yours which he initially mentioned. But why would he? Does he just have fun antagonizing Palmar? Is he more protective of Rels for other reasons? Okay, think I get what you're saying. Tumblewood, I'd appreciate an explanation On August 29 2016 06:53 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 06:50 scott31337 wrote:On August 29 2016 06:44 disformation wrote:
Eh, what do you think of Trfel?
Am I going full OMGUS on a town here, cause he is pushing me over nothing, or is he scum pushing me over nothing?
Would actually like some pressure on Rels, so he comes back and actually plays. He saw how townie you played in the last game, did he build a lot of respect from you of it, because I would think he would find easier targets, you know what I mean? when I entered the game last game a lot of ppl scum read me. E.g. Hats though I would very likely be scum. But your argument makes a lot of sense. Unless Trfel is breaking meta hardcore I don't think he would push me like this right of the bat. Disformation, last question for now, when you say "breaking meta", what are you referring to? And right back to useless questions... Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 07:07 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that. This guy is mafia. Don't hate this post. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 07:29 Palmar wrote:
Although just thinking that makes him like super likely to be town. Which kinda sucks, because it's a super "cheap" townread, but there is almost no way Race Bannon makes that post as mafia. Probably true, but I want to lynch him just for bringing it up. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 07:52 Holyflare wrote:On August 29 2016 06:24 disformation wrote:
currently trying to debate if trfel is going for the mad wifom play (i have seen sl or oneg (would need to doublecheck)) insta scum claim as scum before. dont know if that would be in trfel's scum range. would go with no.
or is he trying to get town to generate content by talking about that.
on the other hand he is kinda annoying me already, which is normally not in trfel's range. so he might be trying to break meta. Flip flop where he claims Trfel wouldn't make that post as mafia but calls him mafia anyway. On August 29 2016 06:41 disformation wrote:
I think Palmar's explanation makes sense, but I have problems with my early D1 as either alignment (##selfmeta) and Rels hasn't been playing very well lately (no offense). So I kinda can Rels see with a weak opening as either alignment.
That being said I think I'll throw him into my scum lean pool. Flip flop defending Rels based on his own anecdotal evidence but calls him mafia anyway. More flip flops than a holiday in China. + Show Spoiler + I really like this. I liked it when I first saw it and I like it again now. Sadly I don't think it says anything about HF. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
i don't even get your tumble read, what are you smoking? Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 08:04 Holyflare wrote:nvm i actually read what he posted now  carry on I like the followup though even if it is passive. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 08:06 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 06:22 Vivax wrote:
I see good will from Trfel here but it's not going to catch a mafia disfo. So far both of them posted null stuff, with Trfel's scumclaim being posted to look like he wanted to draw attention, but since he's posting in sluggish tempo I'm not sure he wanted to actually draw attention but the opposite. But I don't want to crash his party if he thinks he's achieving something.
Also, salut Rels! This strikes me as the most interesting post thus far. Basically a long winded way of saying he has no idea what Trfel is doing. I agree with the first sentance but the rest is calling out Trfel for something, then saying he doesn't want to push Trfel for it. Mild scum lean for casting shade on Trfel but not wanting to look like a bad guy while doing it. I like picking up on the Vivax post and bringing it back up. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 08:45 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 08:18 Koshi wrote:
Now that Palmar plays I will just let him do his thing and lynch him D3 if we don't lynch mafia. eztactics and 100% foolproof. Hey, that was my plan! Now I feel like I should come up with something more original... but thankfully I'm pretty lazy. For now I think I'll add my weight to the Rels train kus a little pressure on him sounds like a good way to start the game. Still sus of Vivax too, he is playing to a higher degree than last I saw of him as scum but his contributions feel forced and possibly have agenda behind them. Pretty sure Trfel and Dis are both town. That is all. ## Vote: Rels This is really left field and I don't understand where it's coming from. TT explain.
good morning. what do you conclude ftom liking/disliking/not being impressed/etc. ?
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On August 29 2016 12:35 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 11:45 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 11:13 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 11:01 scott31337 wrote:On August 29 2016 10:59 Tumblewood wrote:
wow this is a bad game even by my low standards. can someone carry me Umm, I think the game has been going decently well. Every body has posted at least once, and I started my spreadsheet and have notes for everybody. Could you tell me more? I hadn't noticed that everyone had posted. Points to you for paying attention. why is that a townlean ... OH SHIT tinfoil here, Scott is scum and intentionally dropping that he he's using a spreadsheet for town cred or not, maybe *noted*
ive seen a scum trying to coast by on effort of using a huge spreadsheet and posting meh reads bqsed on that before.
that beong said i like new scott so far. lets see what he does with it.
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also tt is my bro this game.
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On August 29 2016 15:09 Trfel wrote:
Hey, disformation, want to solve the game together?
would love to solve the game.
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On August 29 2016 15:18 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 15:12 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 15:09 Trfel wrote:
Hey, disformation, want to solve the game together? would love to solve the game. My question wasn't exclusive to disformation, I assumed (wrongly) that he was the only one around. Geript (or anyone else), if you'd like to discuss as well, I would love to Is there anyone in particular that you feel are interesting/worth discussing first?
not rly tbh. xD
should take a look at rb and danhel, ome to work and kinda skimmed that stuff.
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On August 29 2016 15:34 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that. Or he is mafia with him! 2 found? Also, someone help me out, which two people is Koshi referring to as being mafia in this post?
you and tw imo.
vivi is town imo.
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On August 29 2016 15:45 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, Holyflare and geript (iirc) have both brought up that they are quite suspicious of Vivax. Yet you don't seem to be suspicious of Holyflare and geript. What are your thoughts here?
*to clarify, I'm not trying to trap you in words, just genuinely curious
geript just called him town?
do not really agree woth the assessment that vivax has only posted tripe by hf.
but i am suspicious of anyone minus tt.
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