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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
November 08 2015 23:12 GMT
#1997
On November 09 2015 08:08 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 08:05 Half the Sky wrote:
So at least 2 if not all 3 scummers voted no to this. Might have been to disguise the likely scummer(s) on this team?

rayn's phase will be interesting.


I think there's a definite possibility there was a mafia member on that team.


Ah was in another tab, then what was your purpose (as stated in the last post) of you upvoting the team? Especially with one sabotaged mission already accounted for.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 08 2015 23:22 GMT
#2002
Keep on reading.....I see you are saying "there's a definite possibility there was a mafia member on the team".

Oh wait, you wanted to see Artanis try and expose himself? (#1984) But why would you want to lose a second mission for that? Do you think you have the entire scumteam to suggest a perfect one onwards? After Xata/Artanis in your world then whom?

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 08 2015 23:24 GMT
#2003
On November 09 2015 08:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 07:16 Half the Sky wrote:
Yeh, I know deadline is a bit rough wanting to go to bed early. 2215 here. I think I might crash after deadline.

Shockey, what do you think about Superbia/Artanis in general? I know Artanis looked at you (IIRC) saying you "could" be scum for not having much reads and not wanting to give teammates away.

I know you are (were?) scumreading rayn but any developing thoughts on superbia or Artanis?

Do you have an opinion on Superbia yourself?


I told Kita slight town lean based on posting and the Xatalos disassociation, though conflicted by activity/inactivity upon looking in the last hour. I'd say closer to null. The reasons seem acceptable though but if he's town, I hope he'll give more reasons for us to call him town.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 08 2015 23:25 GMT
#2006
2330....I need to sleep lovelies. Good night <3

Although you are really up late Lex....this game aside, go to bed!
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 08 2015 23:26 GMT
#2007
On November 09 2015 08:24 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 03:01 kitaman27 wrote:
It's getting a bit difficult to parse the thread. Would everyone say this is a reasonable reflection of their current reads? You can respond after the vote if you wish. Clarifications would be helpful on the ones with (???)

ShoCkeyy

rayn/HTS
rels/kita/artanis/super


Xata/SL (???)




Half the Sky

Artanis, kita, rayn, SL
Xatalos/Shockeyy

Super/Rels (???)




Rels

HTS/Arta/SL

kita/shockeyy/super/xata

rayn (???)




Artanis[Xp]

Xatalos
Sicklucker
2 scum out of shockeyy/HTS/Superbia/Rels/kita
Artanis, rayn




Superbia

Xatalos//Kita/Artanis/Rels

One of SL/rayn + Shockeyy

HTS ???




raynpelikoneet

artanis, Xata, super, kita, Rels
Shockeyy, SL, HTS




sicklucker
Shockyy/Xatalos/kita
artanis/rayn/rels/super/hts




As for me I'd say that I'm leaning on SL being the scum from mission two, with Xata being the secondary suspect if SL is town. I'm still leaning mafia on Shockyy and the remaining mafia would be in a pool of HTS/super/Artanis.


Btw why am I missing from this list >.>

Overall, I'd be much more interested to hear your own reads rather than listing others' reads.


LOL I missed this first go, read the bottom two lines of his post!
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 08 2015 23:27 GMT
#2008
Kita I hope you read the last 3-5 pages - some of us have changed a few reads.

sicklucker when you return, can you talk about Superbia more? Particularly in relation to campus mafia. Can you do a meta that does NOT touch on activity/inactivity?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 08 2015 23:27 GMT
#2010
Now I need to sleep. Good night again lovelies <3

Ah the wonders of actually having time to play this game xD
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 08 2015 23:29 GMT
#2011
Lex, at the moment for a town read, other than previously commented, nothing new, no.

And fight me? I'm going to capoeira Tuesday but knowing you, you will still come in and dropkick me

Now let me go to bed <3
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 14:12 GMT
#2079
On November 09 2015 08:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 07:11 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 09 2015 07:05 Rels wrote:
On November 09 2015 06:57 Half the Sky wrote:
So both of you are scumreading each other for dodging questions? Am I reading that right? I think I can see what Artanis is doing with #2 tbh, but seeing people hesistant to show all their cards to a potential scumread is not something I consider scum indicative.

Source on arta scumreading me for dodging plz.


OH SHIT. I just read post #1962. No I misread with all those line breaks. Disregard that last post then.

And then I see this explanation from Artanis.

I have explained why I think you're likely scum. The gist of it comes down to how it seems like you're just throwing shit at everyone and seeing what sticks, and how you seem to be posting just to be posting. That "vote analysis" thing I dissected was an example of that.


If I'm following those line breaks correctly, oh god that is a bad explanation from Artanis. I don't agree with that explanation.

Why don't you agree with the explanation?


I just saw this :/

I honestly don't know where you get the idea that Rels is showing shit at everyone. I know or at least have a better idea that why his read on me is bad aside from what he's saying about the mission 2 votes but when I looked at his filter with fresh eyes (and for once, not horribly pressed for time) I felt there was some purpose to his post.

I would put Xatalos WAY the hell closer to the category of posting just to post as opposed to Rels.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 14:17 GMT
#2080
I'm thinking based on post #1316 I would put up the following team:

Kita/Shockey/Rels/Rayn

If people are smart enough to re-consider Shockey, this team will pass and this mission should pass.

That leaves Artanis and myself out (again I'm in a 5v3 mentality) with people doubting the mission 1 votes.
Kita/Rayn are near universally townread.
Rels is mostly townread.
3 of those people downvoted the failed mission and the only person - Rayn - who passed it is universally townread (and I'm again, confident he's town).
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 14:22 GMT
#2081
I have to do more filter diving on Kita to make sure I'm not screwing him up too much since I closely looked at Rels/Shockey last night and I feel confident on Rayn, but that's sort of where I am atm.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 14:28 GMT
#2083
On November 09 2015 23:23 Xatalos wrote:
You lost me Artanis >.>

And HTS.... There's just no basis for your push on me. You say I "TMI"d rayn when the team failed, but if you didn't miss it, I townread him pretty heavily from like the latter part of the first cycle already. Why would I drop the townread over SL after the failure? Granted, rayn is a bit more likely scum now, but I still don't think that's the case, and SL has looked worse after the failure IMO. By that same logic, rayn also still townreads me........


Mission 1 failed. It was explicitly stated there was one sabotage by the moderator. There HAS to be ( (at least, but most likely) one scum between you/rayn/SL. If you are town, and you know you are town, and especially on the back of a heavy townread on rayn, the bolded doesn't make any sense >_<
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 14:33 GMT
#2086
What you are saying right now doesn't make any sense. rayn had his reasoning for his reads, he had always townread you and scumread sicklucker - but your reasoning isn't flowing at all.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 14:35 GMT
#2087
If people don't want to reconsider Shockey, we could try

Kita/sicklucker/Rels/Rayn

For sure, three of the players should be Kita/Rels/Rayn, but the 4th we are going to have a hard time coming to a consensus. Ugh.

Will be back.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 17:31 GMT
#2101
On November 10 2015 02:25 sicklucker wrote:
so my first thought is rayns the scum trying to bait me and my followers into voting an all town team + him. He knows if he if we wait till my team submited that team will pass and the game will be over for scum.

Dont fall for his trick downvote this. He will just fail this mission too.

Like town rayn would never submit this team for real...

Everytime im scum against ryan he says stupid shit like im giving up but he always comes back into the game and trys hard. Hes never submitting this team as town


Read the rest of the thread? He seemed to just want to torpedo his own team (this is his attitude in general when he gets discouraged with the game as town) and he had a more serious submission after this. The real problem now is Superbia replacing out, which means the lurkiness you described is really NAI.

I'd focus on his second team him/superbia/rels/kita

I know you are (were?) against Kita, though I'm not clear on why. I queried Kita earlier on how he's so sure you are spy because you being difficult to track is NAI. But I couldn't see him differentiating on any posts he's made on you yet, realising he's a American, maybe he'll do that in a few hours.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 17:39 GMT
#2106
On November 10 2015 02:21 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 22:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 09 2015 22:17 Xatalos wrote:
On November 09 2015 22:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 09 2015 22:06 Xatalos wrote:
On November 09 2015 22:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 09 2015 21:57 Xatalos wrote:
On November 09 2015 21:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 09 2015 20:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So that was the only team that had a reasonable chance of going onto a mission.

##Nominate: raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Half the sky, Shockeyy

10/10 team, will pass.
On November 09 2015 21:30 Xatalos wrote:
On November 09 2015 20:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
Do you have any evaluations from how the vote went down?


Which vote?

The one we just had that failed. I'm not quite sure what else it could've possibly been?


Oh, I thought you perhaps meant the failed mission, not the recent nomination.

I don't think there's much to it. It was going to be down voted anyways so scum could have done pretty much whatever they wanted?

Surely there's still something they want to show with their votes though? Do you think that the votes have no meaning whatsoever?


I think the team kind of lost its legitimacy when you put your own scumread in it? So since even you were apparently going to down vote it, I don't think it could have really been made to pass...... rayn seems to have given up and just votes YES on anything, SL votes NO until he gets to pick the team, shockeyy's vote makes no sense.... Meh. Did you get something interesting out of it?

Eh, I don't think I was super clear that I was going to downvote it? Rels didn't seem to understand my intention behind it at least. And like I said, I do think that it says something about SL.


Well hard to think you would vote YES while your scumread was in it?

The SL thing.... I guess so.

I would imagine you'd fight me a little harder on the SL thing given that you feel Rayn is still basically confirmed town. Do you have any doubt in that at all?


wtf is the sl thing?


LOL, Artanis is pressing Xatalos on his soft stance. In his world if rayn is town, then you must be a spy. Xata's stance is fabricated and this shows it, but I'm of the opinion he's a spy anyways.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 17:45 GMT
#2112
On November 10 2015 02:36 sicklucker wrote:
that and xata is approaching too bad to be scum levels and is posting alot


Do you really think any player of rayn's calibre would post a team that flies in the face of everything he's said AND has a zero chance of passing as either alignment especially with Shockey and myself near universally scumread?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 17:47 GMT
#2114
On November 10 2015 02:42 Xatalos wrote:
That's just too bad of an attempt, HTS. Looks like you even ignored my previous posts for you............ Your case is simply illogical to the extreme.


You better pray I don't find the time to case the shit out of you, it probably won't happen until after I touch down in NYC on Thursday. I'm seeing a lot of things that make you mafia from a meta standpoint and that's ignoring your lack of skepticism on the first mission failure.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 17:47 GMT
#2116
On November 10 2015 02:46 sicklucker wrote:
idk how rayn plays scum since I have never seen it. But hes rarely this wrong as town


Reference Battle of the Drams (most recent example) and like I said he blames things on bad townies.

Anyways, welcome Vivax, glad to have you here <3
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 17:49 GMT
#2118
On November 10 2015 02:46 sicklucker wrote:
idk how rayn plays scum since I have never seen it. But hes rarely this wrong as town


And again...

Do you really think any player of rayn's calibre would post a team that flies in the face of everything he's said AND has a zero chance of passing as either alignment especially with Shockey and myself near universally scumread?

In case you didn't understand that the first time.
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