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(with backthoughts I might as well just be wrong again) LIKE, the guy with hopeless is a massive snake of a scum player. | ||
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But if you're going to lynch me tomorrow, you can do it today and end the game earlier with a scum victory. I'm not going to vote myself for wincon reasons but you should if you aren't prone to believe into me being townie. Else all the hopeless lynch will do is delay this by another cycle, and I'm tired of this game. I don't believe the other 2 townies will change their mind. | ||
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But first I need to decide who's the remaining mafia and it's tough. I might get back to chrom again just for the belief that not ALL my reads were wrong. Past days I felt really defeated by the last mafia cause he's playing so well and after pinging at gumshoe I started doubting I would be able to ping him at all, but today I passed my assessment with 8/9 pts and I'm going to at least TRY to kick the last mafia's ass after I'm done drinking with my fellow students. See you tomorrow for a maximum difficulty lylo fellas. | ||
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YES IT MATTERS BH. And btw BH I medic dodged in that game and my team was oks with it, I didn't just send the NKs in over their heads. That's one of the worst examples of meta I've seen. Like, what's the point there? Proving I'm scum cause the NKs in this game are in some sort of way "weird"? No they're not weird at all, the first two guys who got killed in this game had me as town and GB/maybe Chrom/maybe gumshoe as scumreads. It's hilarious that those very same dudes who managed to read me on effort and strongheadedness (or w/e it's called) alone (cause that's an actually good metaread) would be on my hitlist D1 and GB nowhere near it with his apparently so great reads. | ||
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Why do you have to look at each other and comment on that? Cause I got no real slamdunk idea on who is scum right now and I need help from volunteers. I can't solve this game alone, I've been just feeling outplayed for days and I'm paranoid about all of you. | ||
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At best the ritoky NK was weird cause he really quit playing the game altogether since the Onegu kill and all he did was keep spamming how confirmed he was. And besides I really wanted to lynch him so the NK felt to me like "nope, wrong again bro" and I just wanted to bite my own ass at that point. I don't even know where to start looking for the last mafia and I will do it tomorrow anyway, sober. One important point is that it's probably the guy who was most right and survived the longest, still. Bolded for importance. We're looking for someone who was more right and more townie than marv or rayn since the game started, probably included scum in his lists but always pursued somebody else until he had to vote them, and who has always been buddy buddy with the other two townies. | ||
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I don't know how many lylos you played but it's usually where you want to have different camps and not just one. For example we have 3 players right now, 1 mafia among them, and me being an uncontested lynch. We need an advocatus diaboli to make this two sided, cause the game isn't over and you should still go over it. I wouldn't even be writing all this if I weren't a mislynch. But little can I do if the 2 remaining townies and the mafia keep repeating how they won't change their mind. If you're good at this game and also know you can be wrong, you would have to help me make this a day where decisions are actually being made and not just followed through with. | ||
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This was written when Slam had 5 votes on him after gumshoe posted an initial team of Xata/hopeless/Onegu. He was indeed town jesus! Yet starting from these reads he kept changing them for strange reason and based on what others said. On October 24 2015 00:42 gumshoe wrote: Basically the people I would want to see lynched Onegu-hopeless (both are interchangeably useless to me) yamato-gb (these two are a matching pair, yamatos read on him was felt so accurate he is ether just right and awesome, or mafia taking advantage of gb being wrong about vivax) probably wouldn't vote for anyone else outside these 4. On October 24 2015 04:27 gumshoe wrote: Onegu might be town, hes very soft in pushing his reads but we agree on several accounts. Gonna unvote. Chrom feels pretty active/emotional, dont wanna lynch him. Rayn strikes me as sincere but misguided, exactly how I would imagine a townie. We have expectations of veteran players, but truth is bieng right from the get go in a game of mafia can be more about luck than anything else. So no, I wont vote him today. Slam is playing too sensible, dont wanna discourage this by killing him. gb is town, unless hes scum with slam his reactions plus the way he protected him take him totally off my list. I kind of need yam to answer mah questions before I can say anything else. Today I'd be willing to lynch Ritoky, who has totally disappeared and needs to be on more peoples radar. 20 hours as of right now since he last posted. Hopeless is also a target, but everyone seems to magically think hes town so I guess he gets a pass. On October 24 2015 02:55 Onegu wrote: So after catching up. Marv is more active but still useless... Like really the best a town marv has is pushing a slam lynch. I guess he pushes GB. Hrmmm guess that is alot more than his last few games. I think gumshoe is falling into the onegu rule. Rayn is like 90% of his town meta. Yamato did some stuff looked townie. GB rolled my RnG. Havent seen BH again since the start. IIRC he had some reads other than his RnG lynch. Townish I think. Hopeless said he was going to lynch me for being useless I told him good luck, he didnt bite at the bait. Not looking good. IE rels in rayns game. I have forever given up on attempting to read slam. Would lynch or wouldnt lynch. Not really top priority. Xata many reads, big filter. he is like 99% town. Rayn my friend you should get off of this one. UMMM... Who else.... Oh chrome completely forgettable. Scum read. Vivax will trust yamato's read on him for now. Ummm..... No more Mabs or Town! since my rant post it must have worked. Damn I am good at this game. You all call me useless but then you all know my reads are normally right on. Unless they are completely wrong. It is never a mix of right and wrong. And I am more right than wrong. On October 24 2015 02:57 Onegu wrote: Ritoky... No read. Must be scum because I forgot about him. Now you can just compare reads to see if what gum was saying was truthful... GB and yamato Rngd and townread by Onegu, so gumshoe couldn't agree with it. Gumshoe himself falling under the 1gu rule and not ask him wtf that means, also agreeing with that. And Xatalos 100 % town, who was one of gum's initial scumreads. So I assume this was gum early bussing his really useless mafia partners, then changing his mind when rayn and marv pushed for the slam lynch and GB made his dumb push on me. | ||
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Proposed shenannies on 1gu on D1 and on hopeless D2. And Chrom obviously is a decent town but not really town jesus. On October 25 2015 05:27 Chromatically wrote: I guess here's my basic idea right now: Xatalos gumshoe ritoky yamato marv Vivax BH Hopeless Onegu rayn GB I feel pretty confident the top group is town, and I wanted to put rayn in the bottom group on feel but I haven't looked into it enough to feel comfortable saying that right at this moment. Been spending my time mostly on GB. So you are 3 dudes who got all the right scumreads and still survived over ritoky and Xata. You are all alive cause you look damn similar, if somebody can find mafia it's much easier from your position than from mine. I am quite the underdog just cause I've been wrong on so many things that you can't believe that I wouldn't try to gain an advantage in any way from my knowledge of the game. | ||
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On November 07 2015 02:28 Chromatically wrote: Vivax, what's your order of who you think is the most to least scummy right now? I think you all played this game similarly, you probably the least, being one of those who pushed GB with quite the effort. I'd put you into the towniest spot tentatively, BH in the middle and gumshoe as the scummiest. That might change upon reread. question vivax, do you think the no shot was the best choice for today? It's an odd question since everyone agreed it was. It just makes it harder for everyone to figure out the last maf, so yes, it was the best choice. | ||
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He always stuck out to me early on, but he's putting in short bursts of effort that look pretty good, mostly, That's what made me change my mind from time to time. And when I read 1gu's filter I don't see a read on Chrom, methinks. These are his last few reads. And I doubt that he was bussing a mafia who was playing so well so I suppose BH isn't it. Gum could be, or Chrom. On October 26 2015 23:59 Onegu wrote: Hopeless. BH. Ritoky. I also dont like xata. I thought gumshoe was mafia for a while but he looks much better now. | ||
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Easy decision for mafia: Don't shoot anyone, keep 2 allies and a mislynch. Your gloom and doom point is irrelevant cause I play the game without many excuses really. I was just telling you how I felt. How do you feel after pushing a lynch on the wrong guy? | ||
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Gumshoe kept doing his thing of just talking down what I say as much as he can but in today's context it feels townish. I think he talks a lot of crap but it could be townie crap, especially cause it's a lot. Chrom is probably the most considerate of them all given he actually reads gumshoe as an alternative. Yeah, it could easily be BH, just based on lylo analysis. I'ma try to convince you if I find more but in case I don't manage I hope I'm right for a minimum of postgame cred x) | ||
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If 2 townies want to lynch me and never think about changing their mind then I can't do anything. | ||
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On November 08 2015 05:34 gumshoe wrote: not fair, I've replied to everything / : you just don't have very good points. No shame in losing to a good mafia. I'm never sure who it is, still. | ||
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Based on the entire game I probably can't tell. | ||
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