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Vivax
22393 Posts
On July 11 2015 13:29 Oatsmaster wrote: Explain who is mafia if MZ is mafia. Why didnt you post this after bm flipped? Dude are you fucking serious? I'm not gonna think about that before I even know what MZ is. | ||
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milo109
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geript
10024 Posts
On July 11 2015 13:09 Holyflare wrote: This is a bit wifom but since damdred was only tracked to ritoky, barring any jk or anything that has a save on ritoky it probably means someone not talked about as being scummy carried the kp. Not sure what that means yet but i just saw it in the op. I'll talk about this for a second. I don't think town has any roleblocker roles. We've seen a banisher which is kinda like a super JK. Roles that are essentially confirmed are: 1-shot Tracker 1-shot cop 2-shot gunsmith 2-shot banisher Because of the roles, I think there's a variety of things that can exist yet in the game. Maybe a 1-shot vigi. Given Harkon's claim, it's very possible that the Vet claim is possible. A vet would make some sense in the setup. But it's not confirmed by any means. Especially when Palmer was shot and Marv was banished, it's quite possible that mafia didn't medic dodge and equally possible that they did medic dodge by shooting Palmer/smurf. Considering that we have both a cop and a tracker that are limited in use, I kinda expect a second cop to be in the game. Or at least a pair of masons. Or something. I'm also kinda having reservations about milo. He's posted a shit ton. He's been happy to marry himself to Damdred. Damdred has been happy to marry himself to milo. When I see that type of play, it almost always comes from mafia-siding town. There are a number of reasonable reasons for milo to be mafia. But given the fact that no one else has claimed a check or outed as mason or whatever, it kinda makes me think that there might actually be two mafia roleblockers, a goon, a GF and a rolecop. There could be a 2-shot or multishot tracker out there and instead of a goon or RB they have a framer. But idk. He had a 10 page filter in a 4-5 day 100 page game (as mafia). It's a while ago and I don't have enough by any stretch to do a real meta case on milo. But I think that it's at least possible that he's town. He's possibly even fake claimed to not get lynched. He doesn't strike me (from his previous filter) as a person who's afraid to do anything not get lynched. And there are things that I find to be different between the two filters. But it's tough. You guys are going to have to work this one out on your own. I kinda think he might be town, but I still want to lynch him or in the least force him to out a check so when we lynch him if he's town, then we get some info from it. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
Scottttttttttt. | ||
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milo109
466 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
On July 11 2015 13:38 milo109 wrote: geript you should totally track me bby. Even if I could, it would literally be a waste. | ||
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milo109
466 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
On July 11 2015 13:40 milo109 wrote: You could confirm me, which is probably be better than tracking a random. 1. I don't have any more tracks. 2. It would literally be a complete waste. I'm guessing being RB prevents you visiting anyone. And quite frankly, my reads are really, really good. If you're town, I'd rather just track mafia. Because I would. Because yes, I'm that good. | ||
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milo109
466 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 11 2015 13:31 Vivax wrote: Dude are you fucking serious? I'm not gonna think about that before I even know what MZ is. So instead you are gonna fart around and do nothing. Ok. | ||
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Vivax
22393 Posts
On July 11 2015 13:44 Oatsmaster wrote: So instead you are gonna fart around and do nothing. Ok. Asking others to do the work for you like you did the last two pages doesn't mean you're doing anything except being obnoxious. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Yeah but WHYYYYYYY | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 11 2015 13:45 Vivax wrote: Asking others to do the work for you like you did the last two pages doesn't mean you're doing anything except being obnoxious. I dont think you understand why Im asking questions like these. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
They have no idea if there is a vet in the game, and vet is literally the easiest thing is the world to cc. There is no risk for the vet that he gets shot and loses his role. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
Let's not make a mess of it like the 1st day and try to have a few primary targets ready for lynch tomorrow. If we don't it'll end up in chaos and mafia can abuse the indecisiveness to push mis-lynches. If you have not made up your mind on Milo's alignment yet, that should be your first priority right now. If you disagree with lynching milo, I'd like to hear your arguments. We'll have more info after tonight, but assuming that milo lives, we need to reach a consensus on whether to lynch him or not. @milo: can you talk a little bit more about the fake red check, the plan behind it, what you gained from and why you rescinded so early. I have some follow up questions after that. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On July 11 2015 13:48 Oatsmaster wrote: Meh, there really isnt any value for mafia to claim vet there. They have no idea if there is a vet in the game, and vet is literally the easiest thing is the world to cc. There is no risk for the vet that he gets shot and loses his role. OK this is pretty much bullshit. Let me be clear. I'm kinda meh about Harkon. The claim is completely irrelevant. There's a great set of reasons to claim vet there. Yes, it helps sink Damdred, but that ship is essentially already done and gone. So you're sacrificing a piece that you've already lost in order to gain town cred. Nothing against Harkon, but if he doesn't die then he becomes pretty sketchy and would 100% lynch him at lylo. Also, vet is actually a really hard role to cc. Yes, 2 vets would be odd. But it's not in any way close to confirmed. It's unlikely Harkon is mafia. But if he is, then the vet claim is a great play because it's non-confirmable and actually hard to counter. Hell even a PGO or something would have a hard time claiming against him. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Little benefit, decent amount of risk = no point. | ||
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