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Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 08 2015 20:50 GMT
#3561
On July 09 2015 05:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 05:46 Harkon wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:39 Harkon wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:36 Harkon wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:27 Harkon wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:12 Holyflare wrote:
If you think I hard pushed BM then you can point to my filter where I did that rather than asking people to consolidate from one person who was actually posting and could be mafia (but i had a reason that in my head made him look towny and sense to switch, and you know, you were on that wagon too!) to one person who was posting nothing at all and could have been mafia for his claim.

On which wagon? I was basically forced to vote BM since you eroded the MZ wagon so heavily that we would have nolynched if I didn't.


Please point out where I eroded it so hard. IIRC about 6 people were saying to switch to BM before I even said anything. I didn't even force the push onto him that hard rather than a "oh everyone is switching so we may as well get it solidly switched instead of force a no lynch"

On July 08 2015 06:37 Harkon wrote:
I can also lynch BM but the people suddenly defending MZ have me raising my eyebrows.



You say you were forced to switch but you are the one that just butt budied marv and were open to switching anyway, so why are you seemingly so hard done by it when it was a toss up and you didn't really care anyway?

There's 25 people in this game so unless you think that mafia were defending MZ it doesn't really make sense. You also never point out these people defending MZ "so hard" at all.

Regardless, it doesn't even matter. Point out where I pushed for the lynch.

I do not care. It is there for everyone to see and I doubt anyone who was around eod would say that you weren't the guy pushing for BM the hardest. I have no interest to enter a shouting match with you or to let you nitpick everything I say endlessly.

geript was pushing pretty hard too. There were several people.

So? Does that invalidate my point in any way?

Yes actually because whatever point you're driving at here seems predicated on HF being the biggest proponent of the BM lynch when it reality he was really no more for the switch than several other people who were in the thread.

But let's get to the bottom of this. Are you trying to say that if HF was the only one pushing for BM it makes him scum?

You are twisting my arguments. I never said HF was the only one - that would be a ridiculous statement. I am saying that him pushing BM hard over you is scummy. Especially since he said he did not care about the lynch. Especially because you were a "lock scum lynch" for him until you posted some irrelevant stuff and BM was playing "exactly like in his last town game".

Ah see now we've gotten somewhere. Again though, several other people expressed similar concerns about BM's town play, does their decision to vote for him over me make them look scummy too?

I would have to look at those individually. Noone is scummy for voting you alone. The problem with HF is that his story is not adding up.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 08 2015 20:51 GMT
#3562
So anyone wanna discuss the possibility that milo made his giant association cases because he knows mz is mafia?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 08 2015 20:51 GMT
#3563
EBWOP: voting BM*
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 08 2015 20:51 GMT
#3564
On July 09 2015 05:51 Holyflare wrote:
So anyone wanna discuss the possibility that milo made his giant association cases because he knows mz is mafia?

heh.

possible actually :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 08 2015 20:52 GMT
#3565
On July 09 2015 05:51 Holyflare wrote:
So anyone wanna discuss the possibility that milo made his giant association cases because he knows mz is mafia?

An accusation like this has failed spectacularly recently.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 08 2015 20:52 GMT
#3566
i could be wrong on ritoky and MZ is bussing milo with perfect info and milo is making connection cases with perfect info

certainly doesn't sound outlandish
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
July 08 2015 20:53 GMT
#3567
On July 09 2015 05:48 marvellosity wrote:
the reason i didn't answer it is because the point isn't whether i have a strong townread on milo (i don't particularly, but i have already mentioned and explained that i thought his posting was better since EoD), it's the fact your treatment of milo vs ritoky doesn't make sense

my milo read is but a bitpart

Oh goodness you deigned to answer me, I feel so honored.

I have already explained where I see the differences between milo and ritoky and they have not met your muster. Similarly I fail to see how milo's posting has been better since EoD but apparently it's been enough for you to give him a slight townread.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 08 2015 20:53 GMT
#3568
On July 09 2015 05:52 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 05:51 Holyflare wrote:
So anyone wanna discuss the possibility that milo made his giant association cases because he knows mz is mafia?

An accusation like this has failed spectacularly recently.


You know not all cases are the same JAT, stop playing silly. It also doesn't hurt to entertain the idea either. Exploring all possibilities is never bad.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 08 2015 20:54 GMT
#3569
On July 09 2015 05:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 05:48 marvellosity wrote:
the reason i didn't answer it is because the point isn't whether i have a strong townread on milo (i don't particularly, but i have already mentioned and explained that i thought his posting was better since EoD), it's the fact your treatment of milo vs ritoky doesn't make sense

my milo read is but a bitpart

Oh goodness you deigned to answer me, I feel so honored.

I have already explained where I see the differences between milo and ritoky and they have not met your muster. Similarly I fail to see how milo's posting has been better since EoD but apparently it's been enough for you to give him a slight townread.

yes your explanations are bad because they don't come from a natural standpoint. that's kinda the point of it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 08 2015 20:56 GMT
#3570
anyway i'll draw a line under this now, i've said what i wanted to say and my conclusion is clear
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 08 2015 20:59 GMT
#3571
Is the deadline now?
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 08 2015 20:59 GMT
#3572
1hr
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 08 2015 21:00 GMT
#3573
On July 09 2015 05:59 Palmar wrote:
Is the deadline now?

Nope.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
July 08 2015 21:01 GMT
#3574
On July 09 2015 05:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 05:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:48 marvellosity wrote:
the reason i didn't answer it is because the point isn't whether i have a strong townread on milo (i don't particularly, but i have already mentioned and explained that i thought his posting was better since EoD), it's the fact your treatment of milo vs ritoky doesn't make sense

my milo read is but a bitpart

Oh goodness you deigned to answer me, I feel so honored.

I have already explained where I see the differences between milo and ritoky and they have not met your muster. Similarly I fail to see how milo's posting has been better since EoD but apparently it's been enough for you to give him a slight townread.

yes your explanations are bad because they don't come from a natural standpoint. that's kinda the point of it.

Well that's incredibly subjective but if you've made up your mind there's no point in me discussing this further with you.

Anyway I'm going to a concert, I'll be gone around the night post. If someone vigis me plz look at my scum list and go after any one of wave, scott, milo, or clarity.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 08 2015 21:01 GMT
#3575
ok I'll play some dota or something then.

I need to see if my NKs go through.
Computer says mafia
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 08 2015 21:01 GMT
#3576
So Palmar, will you start playing at some point?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 08 2015 21:03 GMT
#3577
Marv, any opinion about Palmar so far?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 08 2015 21:04 GMT
#3578
On July 08 2015 06:54 milo109 wrote:
Sigh. I think MZ is a much better lynch. I'm here to switch as need be though.


On July 08 2015 06:57 milo109 wrote:
Okay well. Since my vote isn't needed I'm staying on policy.


On July 08 2015 07:03 milo109 wrote:
Pls shoot MX

On July 08 2015 07:30 milo109 wrote:
Anyone who thinks I was joking is insane. That switch was orchestrated. MZ is so obviously mafia just based on his posts... See. I like information.


I mean if we take these posts in their context. Why does he think the way he does? It's super sure and in their bubble really out there for a newbie to be super sure of someone that just seems to be posting content. Not only does it look like TMI but compared with his defence of Trfel earlier it looks pretty odd at how resolute he looks at pushing his points forward. His orchestrated point doesn't even include the people that actually orchestrated the switch (he misses out geript for instance). He wasn't even particularly interested in exploring ritoky's claim the entire game to be honest when you should at least be pretty damn wary of someone claiming your role, even if it is slightly different.

On July 08 2015 11:41 milo109 wrote:
It's / as if to signify either one. Geript could be mafia. Can we lynch MZ first and confirm my crazy hypothesis? Once that is done, future steps can be taken.


It's like "yes i'm so right let's lynch him so i can just obviously push this list and my agenda", that's what it seems like to me.


The stuff that gives me hesitance is the mini "cases" he makes afterwards, although they are pretty awkwardly worded (and he totally misreads what mz said about the cop claims, a recurring theme!). I'd totally like him to explain the rest of his reads to be honest. Those little sentences didn't say anything.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 08 2015 21:05 GMT
#3579
On July 09 2015 06:01 Harkon wrote:
So Palmar, will you start playing at some point?

I have been playing!
Computer says mafia
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 08 2015 21:06 GMT
#3580
Alright this mz/milo/ritoky thing has been beaten to death.

Anyone that wants to chime in feel free to give me your opinion on

kelsier/breshke/obi

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