Mafia in the Himalayas - Page 11

On June 19 2015 03:52 wherebugsgo wrote:


care to jog my memory? I recall you posting something pointing out the consolidation thing but you can pretend I'm a goldfish for the purposes of this exercise. I just want to know that you have real opinions I can trust.

But of course if you don't wanna play we can have it your way

On June 19 2015 04:09 KelsierSC wrote:


but LS explained when he got back

and his reason was he was annoyed with me pressing him

On June 19 2015 04:19 KelsierSC wrote:


so your scum list would be

Lohengramm, ritoky, Mig, BF, shockey?

i noticed you made this post about GB



Since that point there has been a lot of GB related discussion so did you read that and it didn't bother you?

On June 19 2015 04:25 KelsierSC wrote:


ok, it's jsut you said scum were not voting/wasting their vote so I was a bit confused.
you damdred is on Bf right?

be good if you answer the point about GB

On June 19 2015 04:25 ritoky wrote:


I will be voting to lynch what I feel is the biggest impediment to town victory: you.

To me you're just sitting in the thread loling and seeing how much anti-town shit you can get away with before your string of credit runs out. It annoys me, and it is terrible play if you're town.

On June 19 2015 04:30 Lohengramm wrote:
I'm going to continue to smurf for filter purposes, and because this account's name is fucking awesome. But yes, I am Yamato.

I will read filters until deadline. BF I have already read but if he's posted anything new I will give my thoughts. I will read LS closer but I really don't think he's mafia at all. As said before, I have a vague suspicion of GB but I admittedly only read like 10 pages.

For now, so I don't get modkilled after replacing in;

##Vote: boxerfred

On June 19 2015 04:33 KelsierSC wrote:


why?

On June 19 2015 04:41 KelsierSC wrote:


can you be tempted by a cheeky GB vote?

On June 19 2015 04:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, let's try it in another way.

KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare:

Tell me exactly WHY are you voting me.

On June 19 2015 04:47 KelsierSC wrote:


i did that in response to him



for the initial case you have to read bugs

On June 19 2015 02:00 wherebugsgo wrote:


or, you know, the fact that this is a retarded opinion if you are town and actually incredibly indicative that you are scum

Let's break it down. From a GB=town perspective first: it's not at all helpful because you eliminate entire possibilities when scumhunting and you invite scum to be more active by saying, "oh if you're more active we won't lynch you!" Townies, on the other hand, are not going to give a shit because they will continue to play like they will play and they could honestly not give a fuck what a player like you thinks. Indeed this is one of the biggest problems with using surface-level things like activity to attempt to scum hunt because you end up shooting yourself in the foot. You maybe catch the low activity scum if you are lucky or manage to use other clues to find them but it is incredibly rare that you can nail an entire team or even a significant portion of a team that way. It certainly wouldn't have worked in the game we played in together where you were scum, where all 3 scum members were active (AND YOU SHOULD FUCKING KNOW THAT IF YOU ARE TOWN) whereas town almost mislynched into some dude that was going to get modkilled anyway, and all the other lynch candidates would obviously not have flipped town like Shockey and Shining and Tubesock and whoever else was in that game and was scummy.

So, if you are town in this game GB you should stop pushing anti town things and pushing like 7 different people with no reasons.

On the other hand if you imagine this from a GB=scum perspective this is actually really great for GB scum to say this. If GB scum says we're only lynching inactives, it's easy to get town support because no one likes inactives. Reading active people is hard so it's really easy to fake scum reads on inactive players. Indeed this fits best with GB's style this game because he asserts he is "reaction fishing" when in reality this is just a thin veil to look for town sentiment. Similarly in the previous game where he was scum, GB was more than willing to let LS, his scum teammate, live on day 1 but instead he wanted to push someone like Stutters who wasn't doing shit.

Why else would he ask me whether I would lynch VA randomly yet offer none of his own thought process? This in particular is very scummy because he was the one that prodded me for not providing opinions, yet when I do he offers absolutely nothing in return! At no point did GB actually make any sort of reasonable attempt to work with me despite claiming to want to do so. Indeed, he actually undermines what I am doing by saying that I am not attempting to get town to consolidate yet being the biggest offender by far of the very things he is accusing others of doing. Lastly, the whole "we're not going to lynch actives" thing is great for his scum style because as he proved in the last game, he is a very active scum player. When pushing the idea that we shouldn't lynch active players because it's a bad idea, he's masking his own style as scum because he himself is an active scum player. It's merely a stone that he is using to knock out multiple birds at once-it's a play in his own self interest in multiple ways.

That coupled with his complete lack of reads and reasons this game pretty much confirms he is scum.

On June 19 2015 02:09 NydusHerMain wrote:
I want to swap this to a bw on onegu but at the same time I'm okay with a bf lynch.

@bugs what's there not to get about what gb said? He's uneasy despite being one of the voters because it's got so many people voting on it whereas no one else is really up for vote consideration in comparison.

Gonna throw this out there and see if it sticks.

##Vote: onegu

If not, I'm fine with bf regardless.

On June 19 2015 04:59 KelsierSC wrote:
fuck it lets do this


##unvote

##vote Lightningstrike