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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 10:17 GMT
#4516
On June 30 2015 18:22 Fidei86 wrote:
Onegu I think Ruxx is town, because I had *exactly* the same reaction to you in HG (you're an easy mislynch, but I want to lynch you anyway). And I was town in that game. Not the most waterproof logic ever, but there it is.

Anyway, everyone needs to vote for HF. If he's unlucky town, we can all put it down to experience. But I'm concerned about the people deflecting off HF. I think Damdred is a strong scum at this point for trying to deflect off (and also for playing this game utterly differently from HG). The third is up in the air, but I don't think it's LS or Ruxx.



I dont think HF is the lynch today. If HF is town scum have some big balls to keep him around for 2 more days. If he is scum there are easier scum to catch. Also in a game this big it is likely that there is a miller with the cop and since we havent had one flip yet the likely hood of him being miller is quite high. If HF is alive in 2-1 lylo we lynch him so fast. But until then I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 10:18 GMT
#4517
On June 30 2015 18:22 Fidei86 wrote:
Onegu I think Ruxx is town, because I had *exactly* the same reaction to you in HG (you're an easy mislynch, but I want to lynch you anyway). And I was town in that game. Not the most waterproof logic ever, but there it is.

Anyway, everyone needs to vote for HF. If he's unlucky town, we can all put it down to experience. But I'm concerned about the people deflecting off HF. I think Damdred is a strong scum at this point for trying to deflect off (and also for playing this game utterly differently from HG). The third is up in the air, but I don't think it's LS or Ruxx.



Also was it lylo when you wanted to lynch me for that reason?
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 10:53 GMT
#4520
On June 30 2015 19:28 Fidei86 wrote:
Also why would scum NK HF? he's the most obvious ML there is.



Because he is the best player on site... Maybe Marv but they are both Brittish and gay for each other so its like they are the same person
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 17:53 GMT
#4631
On July 01 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 02:49 Fidei86 wrote:
Onegu played exactly the same way as this in HG and he was town then too.


no he plays like that every game and you don't really know what makes the difference between town onegu or mafia onegu



Yeah mafia Onegu plays more.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 18:02 GMT
#4638
On July 01 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 02:49 Fidei86 wrote:
Onegu played exactly the same way as this in HG and he was town then too.


no he plays like that every game and you don't really know what makes the difference between town onegu or mafia onegu



Stop being bad. Lynch RuXxar or Shockky today. I am playing now so suck it. Also why does scum onegu not push you today?

Like HF can never read me. Since we were in newbies together.

@RuXxar Why do I need to defend myself at this point we are still 4 hours from lynch and I am not dieing. And like your only reason for scum reading me is I am not doing anything... Well guess what I am now so your arguement is void.

Damdred is being dumb/mafia because he knows for a fact I am willing to vote with my tunneled scum read as town.

Also ruXxar the point about you making people look worse, you did it with VA and me right as you came in the game.

Shockky because onegu rule. And also knowing my meta and thinking this is my scum play.

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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 18:04 GMT
#4641
On July 01 2015 02:59 Fidei86 wrote:
HF - agreed. I think the way forward is to start policy lynching Onegu every time he doesn't show up d1. It's the only way he'll stop ruining our games.

However, lynching him is a 50/50 shot for confirmed town who aren't me (assuming you're all happy I'm confirmed town :-) ). He's done nothing alignment indicative at all. Given that you're happy to submit to the coin flip on him, not sure why you're so outraged about me wanting to lynch you based on statistics.



Will never show up day one then. Also if you think I am ruining your games dont play in games I sign up for.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 18:06 GMT
#4642
On July 01 2015 03:02 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 03:01 Holyflare wrote:
On July 01 2015 02:59 Fidei86 wrote:
HF - agreed. I think the way forward is to start policy lynching Onegu every time he doesn't show up d1. It's the only way he'll stop ruining our games.

However, lynching him is a 50/50 shot for confirmed town who aren't me (assuming you're all happy I'm confirmed town :-) ). He's done nothing alignment indicative at all. Given that you're happy to submit to the coin flip on him, not sure why you're so outraged about me wanting to lynch you based on statistics.


it's not a coin flip at all if you read his filter, or anyone's filter for that matter

he sticks to his policy all game and converts it into a scum read based on absolutely nothing
he doesn't know what is happening in the game and just responds to individual points at random that have no bearing on anything
he town reads a lot of people for nothing and afk's again
a shit tonne of afk excuses and lies about catching up and then doing nothing
he TOWN READS GB ALL GAME AND THEN LYNCHES HIM LOL
he doesn't even stick to his reads in order to push a mafia agenda


+ plays dota and sits on teamspeak doing more nothing instead of playing the game, ESPECIALLY at critical times, only returns at deadlines to sheep mafia partners (mig) or complain about the lynch going wrong



Like do you even check if I am playing or not or If I just in the game. I just woke up and had it on all night, wasnt playing. Same with teamspeak just leave it on.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 18:12 GMT
#4647
On July 01 2015 03:10 Holyflare wrote:
regardless of the teamspeak crap i've got plenty of in-game reasons to think you are mafia



Bad ones
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 18:13 GMT
#4648
On July 01 2015 03:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 03:02 Onegu wrote:
On July 01 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
On July 01 2015 02:49 Fidei86 wrote:
Onegu played exactly the same way as this in HG and he was town then too.


no he plays like that every game and you don't really know what makes the difference between town onegu or mafia onegu



Stop being bad. Lynch RuXxar or Shockky today. I am playing now so suck it. Also why does scum onegu not push you today?

Like HF can never read me. Since we were in newbies together.

@RuXxar Why do I need to defend myself at this point we are still 4 hours from lynch and I am not dieing. And like your only reason for scum reading me is I am not doing anything... Well guess what I am now so your arguement is void.

Damdred is being dumb/mafia because he knows for a fact I am willing to vote with my tunneled scum read as town.

Also ruXxar the point about you making people look worse, you did it with VA and me right as you came in the game.

Shockky because onegu rule. And also knowing my meta and thinking this is my scum play.



Lol onegu rule and b/s I don't know your meta, but you've obviously have done nothing this game. Even when we were mafia together in my first return game, you did more, you did more in my town game. In this game, you've pretty much have done nothing. There's a huge difference in how you've been playing and you should see the same with me, but you just call me mafia because you're mafia and I've outed you. I've given MANY reasons how you can be mafia and all you can say is "onegu rule".



Can you honestly say this game is like the game we were scum together in or the game we were town together in?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 18:14 GMT
#4649
On July 01 2015 03:10 Holyflare wrote:
also the great thing bout teamspeak is that you can check idle timers and check if they are actually at the pc or not so

/gg



Really you checked Idle timers on me? Dont believe you. Also when is the Alignment indicative?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 18:16 GMT
#4651
On July 01 2015 03:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 03:12 Onegu wrote:
On July 01 2015 03:10 Holyflare wrote:
regardless of the teamspeak crap i've got plenty of in-game reasons to think you are mafia



Bad ones


you lynched your town read for the entire game who was the cop for no other reason than to consolidate with 2 of your scum reads and your town reads scum reads, yeh that's totally a bad reason





also i'm going back to my damdred scum read purely for being underwhelming at lylo when he said he would be playing MORE

+ Show Spoiler +
Damdred - Well, I already know rsoultin's opinion on Damdred but I'm going to throw that out the window since when I trust other people's opinions it always leads to mega catastrophe so I'm not going to lie. Damdred looks like mafia to me. When I think back to all the posts that I remember from him this game all I remember him doing is defending absolutely everybody and then mass afking - even when his internet was fixed he was afking.

On June 17 2015 08:51 Damdred wrote:
Town:
Ls
Nhm
Rsoul
Damdred
Ritoky

Town leans
Kel
Gb
Breske

This is a good start. Keep it coming boys and girls


Within the first almost hour or two within the game he's already got a town list of 8 people which is a) ridiculous and b) not something that makes sense because all of his reads are based on really watery substance which aren't real metrics to read people by. Sure, it could just be damdred "doing his style" (don't think so) and it might mean nothing to you guys but it does to me, I didn't have nearly that many town reads that quickly.


On June 17 2015 09:32 Damdred wrote:
You are trying to jump on me for not explaining reads when I've explained a few in,thread even when I'm just bob phone posting. Instead of waiting, like the explanation of ls etc.
Everything I right has some value.

^ by the way, when your internet is out why didn't you post at all on your phone since you did that repeatedly at the start of the game and not at all when it went down?

Now. What led me to be suspicious (at least in the back of my mind) of Damdred were his crazy defences of people both before they had replied to the situation and also with things that didn't make sense:

On June 17 2015 13:15 Damdred wrote:
Well HF here's the thing, generally you do a lot of things early to stimulate discussion I do see the point RS makes in that regard and you don't do it all the time however. But either way its not alignment indicative and well lets be honest you are a scary person to read d1 usually.

I just don't care if ik wrong on you till later or better players catch you lol.

But besides that I don't think its alignment indicative that RS pushed on you for doing nothing, I wanted to push on you to to engage. It happens you are engaged I think you are town. Which I'm glad of currently.

Rs is always stubborn and bangs her head against the brick wall when people come against her like this, especially as town not usually as scum as she's generally a bit more accompdating. In fact she somewhat did the same thing in ippo mafia when people called her out for a few reasons like attitude etc., shit fights galore.

I think it is alignment indicative that RS is acting like this and she's town.

besides that her reads come from a pretty safe place where her scum reads would be a bit more... Strange if that makes sense, its hard for me to quantify like this, but for instance when I gave a read on people instead of being like. Damdred could be scum but this person is town for his read. She's seperatly evaluating people to their own merit. Sadly I won't be able to use this point again but it is what it is.



The point against rsoultin was very solid and I even proved that with my past 3 games where I did nothing. Any person that had read those games or been in them or knew of them would know I didn't really do anything and even if they weren't they can just click the links and see that was the case. So, why, is Damdred defending rsoultin in such a massive wall of text when I had given evidence that was quite conclusive - someone lied about meta to get a scum read on someone else?

This post looks pretty much like a typical mafia defence since it bypasses the ACTUAL points I raised (the lying about the meta) and made new ones that he defended her with (even I was going to push you for doing nothing!) which doesn't make any sense in the context since damdred is defending rsoultin for things that didn't happen

and then the next time he posts anything really substantial it's more defending of people and this time it's LS. Also, remember how he said he'd defend LS and then never did ever? That was a thing.

On June 18 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote:
So can we stop picking on LS before drastic things happen?!?

But seriously LS I got you bud, don't worry partner.

On June 18 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote:
Now I don't think that's a fair thing to say about HF there LS. Hes been pretty confrontational this guy and in the middle of the field from what I've been reading.

However LS is still town, and i'd rather stop talking about that and get back to talking about Fied or even box.


THIS IS ALL HE DID DAY 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Loads of town reads, defending people for crappy reasons before they even reply and then also ignoring what he said earlier in the day (sheeping hf or ritoky) he voted for boxerfred out of the blue! Then massive afking right until the deadline day 2 where he defends another player after not being able to read the thread??????? (GB) and then says he's only like 70% sure gb is town after defending him so hard and then proceeds to afk again. lol.

On June 23 2015 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 02:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On June 17 2015 10:02 Damdred wrote:
So...

All a sudden my gut says shockey is town...it's for bassist reasons though, so I might ! have to hedge my bets like palmar


On June 22 2015 07:06 Damdred wrote:
I still think LS is town, I read his filter or scanned it and it looks like town LS.

I'd probably be ok with Shockey maybe oneg I need to read rux


What's your reasoning for flipping your read on me?


ohhhhhhh snapple


^ shockeyy top town for this too

I think he's very likely mafia. Even with the long spates of afking he looked like mafia defending everyone. I think he has had one scum read this entire game that he's pushed but didn't even push it.
[/b][/u]


So I do this as town
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 18:19 GMT
#4654
On July 01 2015 03:17 Holyflare wrote:
how about you continue to be here and play the game instead of just disputing things onegu, that would be a start



I am here...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 18:23 GMT
#4657
And WTF am I disrupting?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 18:24 GMT
#4658
Oh disputing NVM
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 18:26 GMT
#4661
Like how one person calls me out for not defending myself and now I am getting called out for disputing things on me...
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 18:36 GMT
#4663
On July 01 2015 03:30 Holyflare wrote:
i don't care what other people are saying, just talk to me about things and i've made my case on you and if all you're going to say is "i do that as town" i'm not going to listen to a word you say because you've said that phrase so many times it boggles my mind, you even made those kind of posts in XXX "i only claim vt as town, i don't lie as mafia!" bla bla, it doesn't work anymore.

So, give me your scum reads and elaborate on why. You have to explain to me like I asked you to do before how LS suddenly makes his filter 8 times bigger than his normal mafia filters and why his reads are TMI instead of just being crazy tin foil reads etc etc. You didn't do it.



I have dropped my LS read.

There is a differnece between I only do that as town and I do this as town is different. Like Migs claim was believable what is so bad about going with it, it looked better than GB's when I was scum reading LS and he gets a green check. I have no qualms voting with my scum reads if I think I will lynch scum anyway there is a thing called bussing.

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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 18:57 GMT
#4666
On July 01 2015 03:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 03:13 Onegu wrote:
On July 01 2015 03:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On July 01 2015 03:02 Onegu wrote:
On July 01 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
On July 01 2015 02:49 Fidei86 wrote:
Onegu played exactly the same way as this in HG and he was town then too.


no he plays like that every game and you don't really know what makes the difference between town onegu or mafia onegu



Stop being bad. Lynch RuXxar or Shockky today. I am playing now so suck it. Also why does scum onegu not push you today?

Like HF can never read me. Since we were in newbies together.

@RuXxar Why do I need to defend myself at this point we are still 4 hours from lynch and I am not dieing. And like your only reason for scum reading me is I am not doing anything... Well guess what I am now so your arguement is void.

Damdred is being dumb/mafia because he knows for a fact I am willing to vote with my tunneled scum read as town.

Also ruXxar the point about you making people look worse, you did it with VA and me right as you came in the game.

Shockky because onegu rule. And also knowing my meta and thinking this is my scum play.



Lol onegu rule and b/s I don't know your meta, but you've obviously have done nothing this game. Even when we were mafia together in my first return game, you did more, you did more in my town game. In this game, you've pretty much have done nothing. There's a huge difference in how you've been playing and you should see the same with me, but you just call me mafia because you're mafia and I've outed you. I've given MANY reasons how you can be mafia and all you can say is "onegu rule".



Can you honestly say this game is like the game we were scum together in or the game we were town together in?


You played way better when we were town together, I also want you to answer the same question.
Can you honestly say this game is like the game we were scum together in or the game we were town together in?


Scum
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 18:58 GMT
#4667
On July 01 2015 03:40 Holyflare wrote:
wtf so you thought mig was bussing your town read gb..............................................?

that also doesn't align with what you said at all previously



No I thought Mig was tracker with check on scum GB
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 19:28 GMT
#4672
1) Onegu - I'm 50/50 about him, but I really just want him to post more. His last game he posted a ton compared to what I see now and with a lot better value in the small worded posts - what irks me the mosts is that he makes one list post early in the game and that's it, everyone looks away lol...


Onegu not reading thread.

This is from Shockky in witchcraft talking about me. My town game. His scum game with me he had more words per post, bigger posts. So how he says this is comparable to my scum play from generic is just wrong.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 30 2015 19:32 GMT
#4673
@HF playing a game of Dota
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