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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 04:13 GMT
#2310
On June 21 2015 12:54 Kickstart wrote:
I am tempted to just unvote oats and go onto ruxxar because of what hes doing.


If you're scum with oats ks then that is absolutely the best move you can do right now.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 04:15 GMT
#2311
On June 21 2015 13:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
I've been reading ruxx filter and found some interesting stuff. First is the hard defence of sulph, then the constant lists where he seems to want sulph to get lynched.
Second, he says that rels is 100% town if sulph is mafia, never explains why but after sulph flips, rux then says that rels is 100% mafia.

Also he says that sulph would never vote for his mafia partner, yet here we are.


Keep reading and you'll get to my answers.

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 04:17 GMT
#2314
And how is that interesting stuff? We discussed that ages ago.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 04:17 GMT
#2315
I'm on my phone right now so no, I won't quite it to you.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 04:20 GMT
#2317
Keep going though. Dig up some more dirt.
You're actually doing something for once. Bravo!
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 04:21 GMT
#2318
It's on page 109.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 04:22 GMT
#2319
Also a follow up on page 110.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 14:14 GMT
#2363
On June 21 2015 17:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm going to tell you something you're not going to like. I'm done with you. I don't see how a town Oats could possibly play THIS horribly. Even for you. It reeks of scummy desperation and a bad choice of mislynch.
##vote: Oatsmaster

Trfel/Ruxxar you're next.



What do you mean by this?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 14:36 GMT
#2366
On June 21 2015 13:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Scum between Oats/Trfel/Ruxxar
ezpz.
66% chance boyysssss


Make me a case on why Trfel could be mafia, I'd like to hear it.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 15:33 GMT
#2368
On June 21 2015 23:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 23:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Unfortunately shouting 'I know im town therefore oats must be scum' isn't helpful to everyone else that doesn't know my alignment. I've already shown two ways that you're faking it. Your explanation of your scum reading kickstart is horseshit.

Go ahead and explain away and bring all the horseshit you need to. Hopefully town doesn't buy into it but at least I'm doing all I can.

For like the 3rd damn time, why would I fakeclaim such a shitty check?
I havent seen any answers from anyone.

You dont seem worried that being lynched means town lose the game.
You dont seem worried at all.


I have to agree with the point oats is making here.

If he was fake claiming cop, why wouldn't he say that he red checked me or rels?
It would be such an easy win for the mafia.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 18:58 GMT
#2371
Not yet.
There's something I'm waiting for...
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 18:59 GMT
#2372
...The hero you need but don't deserve
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 22:05 GMT
#2374
So here's where I am at:

I really want to lynch oats, nothing would please me more, he's been nothing but a useless townie all game.

However, my brain is telling me that if there's a godfather in the game, there has to be a cop.
On top of that, it's a newbie game. Chances are the setup will be pretty default with a medic/cop.

Assuming this I see two scenarios:

Either oats is fake-claiming and we have a cop that has yet to claim.
Or, he's telling the truth and wave is mafia.

All of my beeing really wants to lynch oatsmaster, but I can't reasonably convince myself that there somehow is a godfa ther but not a cop.

If the real cop is out there, please claim so my world will make sense again.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 22:36 GMT
#2375
Rels, you said this earlier:

On June 21 2015 08:37 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 08:35 ruXxar wrote:
So do you still want to lynch me?

Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 06:51 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2015 06:43 ruXxar wrote:
Here's my thought on the mafias play.

Either your or wave are going to die.
If neither of you die, then one of you has to be mafia.

Does that sound far fetched?

The thought is valid but wifom.

I loved the way you answered these questions BTW. A mafia has to fabricate reads, so changing them is difficult. You explaining how you changed your read on the sulfu / me situation make me think you're really town.



If you're not going to lynch me, who would be your next lynch after oats?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 23:16 GMT
#2378
On June 21 2015 15:34 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote:
I'm really tempted to buy TL+ just so I can search the thread much faster jesus.
How does TL+ help you search the thread faster? (not accusing, just wondering)


It lets you view a thread with 1000 posts per page.
It would make things way easier to search for in context.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 22 2015 00:05 GMT
#2379
On June 21 2015 12:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
To be fair, i wrote that post right after wave asked you a bunch of questions but before you went all "oats sucks, he has to be mafia or we blame him for the loss"

It's fine, but you aren't gonna lynch me at the end of the day. For sure.

Btw can we nolynch? We should no lynch if we can.


This is a strange request all of a sudden.

Why did you want a no-lynch?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 22 2015 06:54 GMT
#2390
On June 22 2015 15:27 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Wow.

Normally cop claims make the game easier, you just lynch the red check and if it's wrong, lynch the claimed cop. But at MYLO or LYLO, that doesn't work.

Before the cop claim, I was scumreading Oatsmaster fairly strongly, and I was pretty convinced that WaveofShadow was town.

Setup Analysis
+ Show Spoiler +
We know for a fact that town had a Doctor and a Mad Hatter. Doctor is a very strong power role, and Mad Hatter seems to be of about medium strength (about the same as a vigilante). We don't really know what roles mafia has.

However, most (13 player normal) mafia games are two moderately strong town power roles versus one strong mafia role and one weak mafia role. One example of this is the setup normally used in minis, accepted as a very standard setup.

The newbie setup is as follows:
This game uses a variable open setup. When the game begins, one of the following setups will be chosen:

A) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
B) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
C) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
D) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
Cop is a strong role, Doctor is a strong role, Vigilante is a moderately strong role, and Veteran is a bit weaker. The setup is at most two strong roles versus one and a half scum roles (Godfather is weaker).

Here are a list of the roles in the 13 player normal games with the last post in the past three months (bumps excluded, also note that all setups are 10 town versus 3 mafia):
  • Holy Guardians Chapter 1: 1 random blue versus 1 Godfather and 1 Weak Roleblocker (can't roleblock same person twice in a row)
  • I Still Can't Believe It's Not Themed Mafia: Town Tracker and Jailkeeper versus mafia Framer
  • Generic Boring Mini Mafia:Town Veteran and Innocent Child versus mafia Vigilante and Roleblocker
  • Newbie Student Mafia IX: Town Doctor and Vigilante versus mafia Roleblocker and Godfather
  • Game of Thrones Mini Mafia: Town Watcher and Vigilante versus mafia Roleblocker and Godfather
  • Newbie Student Mafia VIII: Town Vigilante and Veteran versus mafia Roleblocker and Godfather
  • Mafia Mini Mafia 2: Town Vigilante and Jailkeeper versus mafia Roleblocker and Vigilante
  • Newbie Student Mafia VII]Newbie Student Mafia VII: Town Veteran and Vigilante versus mafia Godfather and Roleblocker
  • XXX Mini Mafia: A Night of Debauchery: Town Roleblocker and Cop (and unaware miller) versus mafia Framer and Godfather
I believe it's pretty clear. Not counting the unaware miller as a power role, every 13 player normal game in the past three months had a maximum of two town power roles.

In contrast, two of the listed games (I Still Cant Believe It's Not Themed Mafia and Game of Thrones Mini Mafia) had a mafia role with no purpose. Framer in the first game, Godfather in the second.

It feels like having a Cop in addition to a Doctor and Mad Hatter is very unlikely.


And your conclusion is..?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 22 2015 06:55 GMT
#2391
I guess I'll infer that it means oats is lying.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 22 2015 07:02 GMT
#2393
Yeah don't mind me, I'm a bit antsy .
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 22 2015 07:14 GMT
#2395
No no, take your time.
Right now I trust you more than anyone in this game.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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